.

T-SPLOST: For Or Against?

Patch wants to know how you feel about the transportation sales tax referendum.


It's a question that will be on every metro Atlanta ballot on July 31: whether to approve a one-percent sales tax throughout the entire area for transportation improvements.

T-SPLOST is a transportation sales tax refererendum that, if approved, will fund $8.5 billion for projects in 10 counties. The project list includes some of the region's most heavily traveled roads - from in Buckhead to the - as well as .

, as do . Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and other T-SPLOST supporters have been holding Q&A sessions in areas such as , , and other areas in which major projects are proposed.

But , and UGA Professor of Political Science Charles Bullock says .

Ultimately, however, the issue rests in your hands at the ballot box. And Patch wants to know how you feel about T-SPLOST from throughout the metro Atlanta area. So take our poll, and share your thoughts in the comment section below.

And follow T-SPLOST throughout Georgia on Patch's T-SPLOST Facebook page.

Atl Resident July 23, 2012 at 07:58 PM
Andrew - not a fan of this President as you can tell, but it was a gutsy call and as a former U.S. Paratrooper I am very proud of our military!
Stan Moore July 23, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Good point about the toll, however, what would traffic be like if GA-400 were never built? Yes I'm not sure if the tax will expire, but like GA-400 I'd rather it be there than not.
Ormewood Park Mom July 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Two questions: Why can't Marta go straight up or UNDER 400 with stops at every exit? Why can't Marta take my family to a Braves game? This solves a massive amount of traffic. Just sayin...
Greengirl July 24, 2012 at 03:26 AM
@Clicker and Nubs... I didn't know the grammar police were in full force. Guess I missed a few typos, but you two missed all the points of the argument since you were too busy playing English teacher. And BTW, deflecting questions is the sign of a weak debator.
Jack of Kings July 24, 2012 at 03:36 AM
Reminds me of a joke, Atl Resident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4 I could not resist
Fourth ward July 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM
http://www.ajc.com/news/transportation-referendum/business-behind-sales-tax-1483438.html They got a point : "Georgia companies have poured millions of dollars into a campaign for a sales tax increase to fund transportation improvements, with hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions flowing from road builders and others in the construction industry who could see their business boom if the measure is approved"
rick July 24, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Very simple, a gas tax ..... let the people that use the road (usually in a SUV) pay for the roads. Fulton & Dekalb residents are on the roads for less miles than other counties and already pay a one cent transportation tax!!
Nubs July 24, 2012 at 01:39 PM
I didn't miss the point. Government wastes tax money and I am not interested in giving them any more of my money to waste. BTW, "dispendable" is not a typo, it is a made up word. Making up words is worse weak debating, it is ignorant.
Tim July 24, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Rick, teh gas tax idea, which I am a big supporter, is way too simple, easy and appropriate for our "great" state "leadership" to endorse or even study!
Kimberly Perdue July 24, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Thanks for the "seems to know her stuff" comment but then following it with your rant that was not based on any sort of recognizable fact or foundation, a statement that is basically just a dump of negativity without suggestions for solutions, is unnerving and felt (you probably didn't mean it to) misleading. Just to be clear, my entry in no way supported anything that you said or mentioned, Atl Resident.
Greengirl July 24, 2012 at 03:52 PM
@ Nubs...the word is dispensable, meaning non essential. One letter off is a typo, not a made up word. As for government wasting your money, what exactly would you prefer, no government? Do you want to go back to a monarchy, a dictator? Government is the best option we have come up with yet, so if you are unhappy with the government, stop complaining and get involved. We the People are the government. We need folks who offer solutions, not uninvolved complainers. This is the best bill we are likely to get for a while dealing with our crumbling infrastructure. Ignoring the problem and whining about the government will only ensure a loss in infrastructure, which will eventually translate to fewer jobs. Businesses will not want to locate here if the infrastructure is falling apart around us.
Eric H July 24, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Read this http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2012/07/23/transportation-tax-campaigns-contributors-include-road-builders-developers&cb=3277567124ee79e1cd6d3828596abcd6&sort=desc#readerComments As to the gas tax comment, yes its far superior. Unlike a sales tax on essential groceries it doesn't mask or subsidize the region's over dependence on roads. Our already institutional subsidization and government promotion of car oriented development is a major reason we drive more per person than other major cities in the U.S..
Chip Douglas July 24, 2012 at 04:07 PM
If gas were $6.00 per gallon I bet Marta would start looking pretty good. Forget TSPLOST and let's solve public transportation. Then see where we are.
Merleliz July 24, 2012 at 05:09 PM
When the government (Federal/State/Local/whatever) can prove that they have been wise stewards of the taxpayer money that has already been entrusted to their care, then and only then will I vote to give them as much as a dime more. Now...what do you think the chances are of that happening?
Nubs July 24, 2012 at 06:51 PM
Your contention that the option to a wasteful government is either no government, a monarchy or a dictatorship is so stupid that I cannot even bring myself to dignify it with an answer...
Jack of Kings July 24, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Reflecting the direct interest road builders have in the referendum’s outcome, several are among the leading contributors to the ad campaign. The largest donations from that group were $250,000 each from Marietta-based C.W. Matthews Contracting Co. Inc. and the Georgia Highway Contractors Association. Here is a list of contributors of $100,000 or more, according to the report: Clear Channel Outdoor Inc. - $295,000 National Association of Realtors - $281,000 Cox Enterprises Inc. - $250,000 Georgia Highway Contractors Association - $250,000 Georgia Power Co. - $250,000 C.W. Matthews Contracting Co. Inc. - $200,000 The Coca-Cola Co. (NYSE: KO) - $187,500 Delta Air Lines Inc. (NYSE: DAL) - $150,000 The Home Depot Inc. (NYSE: HD) - $150,000 Yancey Brothers Co. - $150,000 Vulcan Materials Co. - $105,000 AGL Resources Inc. (NYSE: GAS) - $100,000 AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) - $100,000 Carlyle Fraser Employees Benefit Fund - $100,000 IntercontinentalExchange Inc. (NYSE: ICE) - $100,000 Jamestown Properties - $100,000 Newell Rubbermaid Inc. (NYSE: NWL) - $100,000 Post Apartment Homes L.P. -$100,000 Rock-Tenn Co. (NYSE: RKT) - $100,000 Siemens Industry Inc. - $100,000 SunTrust Banks Inc. (NYSE: STI) - $100,000 Turner Broadcasting Inc. - $100,000 United Parcel Service Inc. (NYSE: UPS) - $100,000
Kimberly Perdue July 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM
OF COURSE they are contributing. I'm sorry if I sound frustrated and if some of my words go uppercase in the response, but it's like people making comments have no knowledge of the world in which we live and acceptable business practices in lobbying for Government contracts. PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS: If you owned a major corporation and there was a proposal about to be voted on that could POTENTIALLY (nothing is for sure! they are taking a risk here!) provide tremendous business growth for your company in the next 10 years, you would be absolutely FOOLISH not to contribute to the campaign. It doesn't make them bad guys. There is no major conspiracy brewing here. It is smart business!!!!!!!!
Atl Resident July 24, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Kim is right... in voting yes for this bill. We have a President in Obama who has no leadership ability and someone who has been a divider. If he get's re-elected it could be catastrophic for this country. If this bill passes Georgia will be okay no matter who gets elected!
Andrew Knapp July 24, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Atl Resident, While I agree that Obama has been a disappointment overall, I don't understand how passing TSPLOST will insulate Georgia from the rest of the country. Please elaborate.
Atl Resident July 25, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Andrew - In a nut shell the the Panama Canal is almost finished with it's deepening and widening, that will create a 20-25% surplus of shipping that the west coast cannot handle. Because of the Port of Savannah, Georgia will be in position to pick up about 15% of that business thus making Georgia the 4th most important logistic center in the country. A lot of companies will open up regional offices here, but they have to know that we are dealing with our traffic problem. Housing in Atlanta is a lot cheaper than in other major cities as well and people will move here... Therefor the bill is a must if we are going to become major players.
Atl Resident July 25, 2012 at 02:24 PM
Continued from above comment (it was too long) - Also our infrastructure will grow or be retrofitted sewers, roads etc. We cannot live without water and roads as the population grows. Miami needs 1 billion in sewer retrofitting at the moment. Shirley Franklin did a lot for sewers, I am not a Democrat , but I respect her. She worked in my building where my office is at after public office. Now we need our Transit and roads up grades... Infrastructure projects are tangible, they create jobs from the planning stages all the way to street level construction. This will be like a domino effect for jobs in Georgia regardless of who gets elected in the White House, hopefully we will have a leader and not an arrogant divider... Even though I am not a fan of the worst President ever (Obama), I wished well when he got elected and I said prove me wrong. He could have been a hero if did not through so much money away. Other than saving the banks, he has thrown our tax dollars away. Now he wants to spend it on infrastructure, because he realizes that will work and the republicans are being stubborn because of our debt. Investing infrastructure is inevitable and we must invest in our future, bridges will start falling etc.
Sparrow Cutlet July 25, 2012 at 03:14 PM
@Atl Resident your dumb. you wrote: " Even though I am not a fan of the worst President ever (Obama), I wished well when he got elected and I said prove me wrong. He could have been a hero if did not through so much money away. Other than saving the banks, he has thrown our tax dollars away. Now he wants to spend it on infrastructure," geez you fool you need to stop just listening to the Right Wing talking heads. The President has been highly effective and saved our economy from the Bush recession. He made the risky call to go in and get Osama, and more importantly he saved countless good manufacturing jobs by going against Mitt Romney and others advice and saving the U.S. Auto Industry. Bush did the bank bailout, Obama finished it up but Elizabeth Warren who he appointed put or attempted to put on several safeguards regarding it. But more to the point of showing how your grasp on facts is incorrect is that the majority of the stimulus funding Obama directed was for infrastructure. Regarding the port, just what is in the TSPLOST that will help with Freight Traffic? Is the TSPLOST funding capacity enhancements to our congested freight rail lines? NO. Which is a shame because they could fund Commuter Rail and address commuter congestion and while doing that also add capacity to the Freight rail system. Heck their isn't even a major highway project directed at the truck freight. That's going to go up 75 since the rest goes up 95 Not 85 from the port
Atl Resident July 25, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Joe her - I have never insulted anyone on this blog! We have a right to have a difference of opinions in this country with out insulting anyone... Other country's do not! I would gladly give you the address to my office if you would like to discuss this in person! I have a right to say this is worst President ever, however i think you may have a point Jimmy Carter was the worst!
Sparrow Cutlet July 25, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Of course you have the right to say he is the worst President ever. And i have a right to call you dumb when you base that assertion on incorrect statements. "hopefully we will have a leader and not an arrogant divider." Oh yes because John Boehner and Eric Cantor are just the nicest folks and they didn't mean it when they said that they don't want the economy to recovery to quickly because it would help Obama. "Other than saving the banks, he has thrown our tax dollars away." What does this mean? " Now he wants to spend it on infrastructure," Most of the stimulus money spending went to infrastructure projects. " http://www.usnews.com/news/stimulus/articles/2009/05/22/obamas-stimulus-projects-wont-amount-to-major-infrastructure-overhaul Oh and by the way as a part of the stimulus Obama has lowered taxes for everyone. I'm not trying to insult just calling it as it is.
Sparrow Cutlet July 25, 2012 at 03:51 PM
A regressive tax to line the pockets of fat cats. Hurry Click the link if you would like to attend this Gala Fundraiser for the 6 million dollar TSPLOST campaign, rumor has it that it moves you up the list for winning the lucrative road building projects. A regressive tax to line the pockets of fat cats. Hurry Click the link if you would like to attend this Gala Fundraiser for the 6 million dollar TSPLOST campaign, rumor has it that it moves you up the list for winning the lucrative road building projects. http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=4odggocab&v=001lCvgE9Gdh_besgvMft8ZjiqCLAy2omJJ0mvqoJuZTSjYEE6h2GYW8q1TAUd3jKVTpcMEXQqYVAoTZcQHkTvd6_u5jjDoYsHB3Sq3PMNC9M1CDkrmXI8j2Vk0H-sByNxCVTpcMEXQqYVAoTZcQHkTvd6_u5jjDoYsHB3Sq3PMNC9M1CDkrmXI8j2Vk0H-sByNxC
Atl Resident July 25, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Joe her - okay now I will lower my self to your level only once! You are Ignorant.....
Sparrow Cutlet July 25, 2012 at 04:29 PM
Oh Snap! you sure zinged me! No seriously people are looking at me wondering why tears are streaming down my face.
Clicker July 25, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Is that link like the "Win Dinner with Barack" contest you see on all of the websites featuring cats doing tricks and fat people dancing? (Not to mention the unmentionable ones, I'm sure.) It's amazing how far the Obama campaign has sunk - the Presidency is now in the same league as a Food Network challenge.
Atl Resident July 25, 2012 at 05:50 PM
Let's agree to disagree and respect everyone and not to get personal... I love all types of people. We are lucky if we lived in Venezuela or Cuba we would be in jail for our opinions on this blog!
James July 25, 2012 at 09:25 PM
So we should never build any more infrastructure in this town to prevent any business from benefitting from it? What kind of logic is this?

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something