UPDATE: Rep. Jacobs Responds to Accusations of 'Inappropriate' Behavior as MARTA Oversight Chairman

Rep. Mike Jacobs is speaking out about accusations that he is out of line and overstepping his role as MARTA Oversight Committee Chairman.

Well-known Atlanta journalist and creator of The Saporta Report, Maria Saporta, is calling out State Rep. Mike Jacobs (R-DeKalb) for being “inappropriate” in his role as chairman of the state MARTA Oversight Committee, accusing him of being vindictive and working at “cross purposes against his district and against MARTA.”

Responding to Saporta’s accusation that Jacobs is overstepping his role as MARTOC chairman, Jacobs said, “If MARTA is not in agreement with work of their legislative oversight committee, we must be doing something right.”

The transit authority faces a $33 million deficit and has made recent headlines for spending $144,000 for a consultant to improve and study executive leadership, along with nearly $800 for the consultant to present his findings orally in a rented room five miles from its six-story facility, during a December 2011 retreat.

Jacobs is addressing the transit authority's spending in a special legislative hearing.

Saporta in a Monday column criticized Jacobs’ public support for MARTA Chief Operating Officer Dwight Ferrell to be named as MARTA’s new general manager, a position left vacant now that former General Manager Beverly Scott has accepted a position in Boston.

Saporta also accused Jacobs of using his position on MARTOC as a political platform for the creation of the City of Brookhaven.

On Oct. 4, MARTA board members voted San Antonio's chief of VIA Metropolitan Transit Keith Parker as General Manager, instead of Ferrell. Board member Wendy Butler, Jacobs’ former campaign manager, abstained from the vote.

“I am perfectly willing to work with Keith Parker. However, it’s important for everyone to recognize bold action is needed to stem the tide of red ink at MARTA,” Jacobs told Brookhaven Patch.

Also last week, Jacobs filed a complaint last week that the MARTA GM selection process did not follow Georgia’s Open Meetings Act, zeroing in on an email from MARTA Board Director Barbara Babbitt Kaufman asking other board members for their vote on the GM.

A lawyer told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the email did not violate any law.

Jacobs amended his complaint this week to also include falsification of documents, stating that Kaufman furnished a false affidavit to show compliance with the open meetings law.

Saporta wrote in a recent column in her popular SaportaReport, “What a big disappointment Jacobs has been in his role as MARTOC chairman. He had the opportunity to become a real statesman — helping resolve several structural issues in the MARTA Act and improving relations between Georgia’s largest public transit agency and the state.”

Jacobs also told Brookhaven Patch, “Maria Saporta has been paid $10,000 by MARTA to write articles like that.”

Saporta said she has not yet received $10,000 from MARTA, but is set to receive that amount as payment for an ad on her digital publication’s “Thought Leadership” section, which features columns from other local advertisers.

Saporta said the agency is an advertiser, but advertisers do not influence editorial content, similar to the design of traditional newspapers.

“They purchase a space where they can write what they want,” she said.

On Wednesday afternoon, the digital publication released a column about the Thought Leadership contract with MARTA, saying that MARTA did, in fact, purchase a Thought Leadership website from SaportaReport in June.

However, no MARTA-sponsored columns on Thought Leadership page have run since then.

In the Wednesday column, Saporta Report publisher Chris Schroder stated, "Those columns should start soon."

Do you think Jacobs is overstepping in his role as MARTOC Chairman? Was it appropriate for his former campaign manager to abstain from MARTA's GM vote? Are Saporta's accusations unfounded?Tell us your thoughts in the comments below.

Eddie E. October 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Amazing what effects eviscerating their budget has had. Now if we could only restore all necessary funding and hire the necessary MARTA Police and retask them with full arrest powers, add plainclothes security and develop a plan for 'all day riders' that will pass court muster, we could redirect efforts to expand the system. Or it can continue to be a grandstand for the Dekalb republican MARTOC Chair du jour.
"E Pluribus Unum" October 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM
TomMiller , I've always wondered how much better shape Marta and metro Atlanta would be in if Marta was originally and subsequently approved beyond its present boundaries. The missed opportunities on so many levels, any only because of racial fear. IMHO, Atlanta will never achieve its full potential as an elite national and international city because of its second rate rapid transit system. We had vision with the airport but not with the rapid rail system.
Thom Shepard October 13, 2012 at 11:42 PM
EPU, Extending MARTA to the suburbs is secondary to building a great urban rail and bus system. While the candidate from Pittsburgh would have brought some very interesting experience and seemed equally qualified, I think Keith Parker brings some very unique experience to lead MARTA into the future. If you have used the bus station in downtown Charlotte where Mr. Parker previously worked or seen the design of areas around the train stations on their rail line you realize he has experience with contemporary TOD that MARTA simply has not excelled at. MARTA has been mostly stuck in the mentality of the 1960s when MARTA was built to encourage people to live in the suburbs, drive to station and ride the train downtown to work or the airport. The potential for MARTA in an Atlanta and Brookhaven that are now growing in ITP areas and thriving with walkable urban design is a huge opportunity to have a much more successful bus and rail system. So I am very thankful we have a new GM with experience in cities that are excelling at innovation and new ideas and more contemporary design. As far as the suburbs, they are likely never to be very bus friendly and we should invest our public dollars in areas that are dense and urban and can thrive with great rail and bus service. This is not to saw we should not have express buses and especially inter-city rail and bus systems but the idea of serving the sprawling suburbs with bus and rail was never viable.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 04:17 PM
MARTA is very safe. Riders on the train are not attacked. The incident from over a year ago turned out to be incorrectly reported. Putting police on each train is not necessarily the best way to use the Police as every rider has to enter and exit the train through a station. And actually most of the crime on MARTA happens outside the fair gates not inside. As to MARTA having a stop at Turner Field, that would have added greatly to the cost of east line and frankly the main value of MARTA is getting people to and from their jobs. The regular commuter is the bread and butter of MARTA. The Airport is also a 24/7 trip generator. And for someone who doesn't like to take the bus from 5 points to the stadium I suggest going to the GA State station on the East line and walking. At .9 miles it is not that far a walk.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Thom I agree somewhat. I will say Gwinnett and Cobb have significant ridership on their local bus service, so while the land use is not supportive of rail there are corridors that do need and do support bus service. Also MARTA wasn't just envisioned to encourage people to live in the suburbs. Though I guess the definition of suburbs has changed since the first stations were opened in 1979 (downtown). One vision not executed was for more density around the MARTA rail stations. Part of the reason for this is that while we were building the rail system the region was providing massive funding to a "freeing the freeways" effort that focused on the north side and thus helped encourage sprawl to the north. Counties failed to limit or keep higher density development near the stations or appropriate corridors and instead let multifamily or higher density development splatter about seemingly based more on who had connections for a rezoning than on where the additional density was serviceable. As a result today many of the existing MARTA rail stations are underutilized because the development around them never came. However, since as the road system gets bigger its even more expensive to maintain and upkeep we don't have money to try build enough roads (nor could we) so people are starting to look inside 285 again and development around some stations is happening.
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Eric, While I agree MARTA is safe I disagree we don't need more police on the trains. There is some regular aggressive panhandling, very loud music, sleeping on trains on more than one seat, etc. that could be handled very easily with plain clothed police. To not blow their cover and to for the benefit of public perception they could call in uniformed police to handle the situation and be the witness if the subject is a serious or repeat offender. The main thing would be to give warnings to people so they know someone and for the public to know MARTA cares. Please email me if you don't mind: thom@ruralurban.org I would like to talk to you in more detail about this and what I think we can do to address some of this now that we have a new GM. That goes for anyone else on this list who are serious about working towards sensible diplomatic solutions. I think it would be better if some of us meet in person if we really want to solve this problem. I know that excludes several of you who enjoy your anonymity, but for the rest of you, lets meet over coffee.
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 05:18 PM
Eric, Just take a look at their current bus route, there is no grid structure still, even with all of the talk of the Beltline loop benefits we still have a system designed to bring everyone to 5-points. This is totally counter to an urban grid structure to encourage high use corridors and to make it logical to use. We should really meet in person to look at MARTA route maps and logical develpment to have this converstation but MARTA bus routes still have the same mentatlity as 1979 despite many changes. I believe existing users could be served much more efficiently if we re-think how the bus is supposed to operate and where people really want to go. I do agree that some of the ex-urban bus lines are efficient and very useful and I am not suggesting doing away with them, but major dollars and capital should go into true urban models not some of the ideas floated the last few years of bringing mass transit to the suburbs. Such plans would cost 50 billion dollars and still be as inefficient as our current road models because these areas have already been built out as car centric sprawling metropolis.
HamBurger October 15, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Mr. Eric, it is my understanding that the reason MARTA was not routed to include the old stadium when the tracks were first laid was that Atlanta did not want to relinquish the parking revenue they were receiving from stadium parking. Please pass the yellow mustard!
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 05:37 PM
<<<continuted>>> Now if we have an intercity rail line between Chamblee/Doraville and Charlotte (see Paris and Gare du Norde) note: You don't have to go downtown for a massive intermodal train station. It makes more sense to use the backbone of MARTA and some of the intercity stations be distributed as they do in Paris. It is kind of silly to get on a train at Chamblee, go downtown and get on a train that comes right back thru Chamblee. This is the "American/NYC" rail model of central hub that has never been particularly successful except in rare locations like NYC that are unique. The Macon/Savanah inter-city train should come downtown as the corridor makes more sense for that, the Montgomery/New Orleans line might make more sense to connect with the proposed SW light-rail line then come downtown, but that is more debateable. Point being if we have a clear vision for inter-city rail, that thanks to MARTA going to the airport would be internationally connected, such inter-city rail can double as commuter rail encouraging substantial stand alone urban centers between. But our current visions and models are politically muddled without a clear vision of what a national system should look like. Rail/Bus/Air must be integrated to account for the higher cost of fuel we are likely to see in the future. Our current car/plan/rail/bus planning vision is based on 88 cent gasoline and will continue to destroy our economy if we continue to bet on its return.
Roger That October 15, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Good thoughts by Thom and Eric. Let's not forget to include pedestrian/bike/skate friendly ways of getting to a train station or bus stop. Years ago, I supported the Path efforts to connect residential with commercial/transportation via footpaths (Beltline, etc.) What we got was a big sidewalk that dead ends at PI. But I was impressed with the effort of a private enterprise pushing to solve the real problem that metro Atlanta is not ped/bike friendly.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Roger That, yes you are exactly right, better pedestrian/bike access to the Chamblee and Brookhaven stations could improve MARTA ridership and thus farebox recovery while also providing other amenities to our communities. As to the big sidewalk that dead ends at PI. Are you speaking of the Path Trail that is supposed to ultimately connect through the new senior housing and mixed use development and connect to the Keswick trail that goes under Peachtree Industrial behind the Wal-Mart? I was told by someone that the trail was supposed to go to Peachtree Road but that property owner wouldn't sell or give an easement. Hopefully that will change though even now its got decent connectivity to the Chamblee MARTA station. However the section mentioned above needs to be completed so that the Murphey Candler/Blackburn segment is connected to it.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 07:28 PM
New op-ed in AJC by MARTA http://www.ajc.com/news/news/opinion/marta-critics-focused-on-issues/nSbs8/ "MARTA’s on-time rail performance stands at 98 percent, which has consistently been one of the highest in the nation among our industry peers." As a daily rider I can attest to this. The Weekday Southbound train leaves every 15 minutes from Chamblee starting at 8 minutes after the hour until 7 p.m. when it goes to 20 minute headways. So for example the train leaves Chamblee for Buckhead, Midtown, Downtown and Airport at 8:08, 8:23, 8:38, 8:53, 9:08 etc. etc. And the train leaves Brookhaven 4 minutes later so 8:12, 8:27, 8:42, 8:57, 9:12. And the Red Line Medical Center is basically on the hour after 7 AM thus 8:00, 8:15, 8:30, 8:45, 9:00. Thus I know when to get to the station to not have to wait. On time performance is not just a sign of well run operations but of equipment that is properly maintained. The most important part of transit is reliability and safety. MARTA meets both of these needs and between the cost of gas and parking it is cheaper at $2.125 per trip when you load your Breeze Card with 20 non-expiring trips. Schedules are available at www.itsmarta.com
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 08:18 PM
RT, I am greatly in agreement with your statement above. I was at the "Pro-Bike Pro-Walk Pro-Place" conference in Long Beach, CA last month and it is clear that what you are describing is becoming common in cities that are successful at attracting the creative class. Most if it is being funded by private development as an amenity and necessity to attract people. For those of you obsessed with the Brookhaven budget. The young creative class is the group that typically does not have children yet, is highly mobile and will move to dynamic and culturally interesting and diverse communities. Since they don't have children they are usually a budget plus citizen, meaning they pay more than they need from the government. Since Brookhaven already has a very strong base of single family homes this should be a target area. They support and attract locally owned businesses and farmers markets we can all enjoy as well as art galleries and cultural institutions that are great for young people and kids as well. If we follow the path of Buckhead and just bulldoze our tree canopy for short term tax dollar gain (wow, does this not sound just like the DeKalb County we know) we will loose this group of people as well as discourage those who bought into the beauty of Brook Haven.
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Eric, While 7am-9:30 and 4pm-6pm times on MARTA are pretty good as well as during sporting events I really don't buy into the 98% rating. That is unless there is an exception for weekends when they are single tracking for maintenance. I ride the train mostly during off hours on weekdays and a lot on weekends. I actually missed my flight to the Pro-Walk Pro-Bike conference because the train took and extra 45 minutes than normal due to maintenance. I expect this is because due to unions and budgets it is too expensive to work on the tracks at night when the train is not operating. I recommend on weekends if you ride the train to the airport to leave at least an hour earlier due to common single tracking. I am a fan of MARTA, love to use it whenever I can, but I think there are a lot of areas where good management can dramatically improve service.
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Dear Anonymous Person AKA "Just Wondering", I know you think that if you keep repeating your statement about back room deals and open meetings enough you think it will sink in but every time you make such a statement it just reminds people what is happening. J Max Davis and quite a few candidates who are either corporate officers of Brookhaven Yes Inc. or close friends are running for office. Their organization, BYI does not in anyway compare to the Sierra Club, so your analogy is totally invalid. They specifically chose not to start a wing of BYI to focus on Implementation of the new city despite a very seasoned cityhood veteran suggesting such. <<<continued>>>
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 08:45 PM
<<<continued to Anonymous Person AKA "Just Wondering">>> Last night at the Zoning and Planning Governors Commission Meeting I specifically asked the three gentleman who are on the working groups to design the organizational structure for our new city what kind of work the BYI group, of which they said they were members, actually accomplished. They said they had a few interview type meetings but did not get any of the much needed data from DeKalb County and did not research the RFPs or get copies of them from other cities. This is the most important info to have in the time crunch to design the structure of our new city, and despite what some are saying the city council/mayor will have little choice to do anything but what the GovCommB hands them on day one. So I have heard specifically the GovCommB Police, Public Works and Community Development Committees all say they have or were not given by Brookhaven Yes Inc. any data, any research, any RFP's etc. They did nothing with respect to implementation procedure and I can tell you why, they were not organized to do so. As such volunteers are scrambling to get this work done and much of what I hoped can't even be considered due to time constraints. We will simply emulate Dekalb County which is exactly what most developers want. Little surprise why we are so behind ....
Thom Shepard October 15, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Dear Anonymous Person AKA "Just Wondering", Criticizing the actions and decisions of a public official is not the same thing as some of the behavior that happens on this listserv by people hiding behind secret names. I have great respect for those who are willing to slug thru this mud on Patch with their identities fully known and thus accountable publicly for anything they might say. It is a shame that the Patch does not require that all posters verify their identity in the same way that google places sends a post card through the US Mail to make sure no one can play games with identities without violating a federal statute. I can see why The Patch would want anonymous posters, it drives their ad revenue. But on such serious matters as creating a brand new form of government, one of the most sacred acts of democracy, on a journalistic source, one would think that real names would be required. While I might appreciate the discussion, I think much of this would be better served on a private blog and my respect for The Patch is greatly diminishing along with most journalistic sources that are putting ad dollars ahead of truth, news, fairness and common decency.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 09:23 PM
I know weekend maintenance work effects the schedule greatly, and I rarely use MARTA on the weekends so you maybe right. I do use a gym after work near where I work and also often work late so will often take the train home as late as 11 p.m. and use it frequently for mid day weekday trips so I will say it holds its schedule during the weekdays beyond rush hour. Now I have heard that construction of the Buckhead North Platform entrance has caused the Red Line to experience delays during non Peak times and I do generally take the Gold Line so perhaps that is what you have been experiencing on the weekdays. By the way the MARTA facebook page is pretty good for seeing or getting information not just from MARTA but from riders http://www.facebook.com/pages/MARTA/64214098113?ref=ts&fref=ts Though if there are specific complaints or issues they ask that people report it to custserv@itsmarta.com so that the issue gets properly documented and tracked. The Facebook page is largely an information resource though their is a person who does a good job of tracking down answers to general issues.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 09:40 PM
I hear you on the Grid System - though our road system makes that tough, plus for budget purposes MARTA runs buses to train stations which interestingly resembles your vision for Intercity rail. As to Intercity and Commuter Rail (CR = suburb to downtown/midtown) the drawback to that is that most people are not going to Chamblee, so a stop there requires almost everyone to do a transfer. Transfers hurt ridership The biggest job center is still downtown. As to CR and I believe Intercity rail, they will be on the freight tracks. The issue is there are some choke points in terms of the freight tracks currently not having the capacity to handle existing freight traffic, let alone adding commuter rail trains. However adding additional capacity should be viewed as a chance to kill two birds with one stone, increasing capacity not just for Freight but for Commuters. This is especially important in light of the efforts to expand the freight capacity of the Savannah port. Expansion of the port will increase traffic headed towards the midwest and Chicago up 75 through the city. It would be better to have that freight move via rail than via trucks. As to intercity rail I don't see that happening in my lifetime. Commuter Rail though would be a logical followup to Buses running in congestion free HOT lanes. And the freight tracks go through more transit conducive areas than the proposed rail routes that tend to follow highways.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 09:56 PM
While it would be impossible to say the parking lot revenue angle is baseless, it is at best an oversimplification. The Eastline was designed to go through Decatur. And largely followed the existing freight rail tracks that also run from 5 points past Decatur. Doing this saved a great deal of money. Having this line go a mile south to the stadium would have not only increased ROW and construction costs but would have required crossing over I-20 2 times. This would be an expensive proposition. It also would have added to trip times. Was this a good way to cut costs? I don't know. Is trying to service people trying to get to work, including those who can't afford a job and thus having transit can mean the difference between working or collecting government aid more important than providing better access to the sporadic schedule of a baseball team? I think the answer to that is Yes.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Thom, I'll shoot you an email though I've got a lot of things on my plate (namely paying the bills) and I think there are far better groups or people to discuss improving MARTA. Citizens for Progressive Transit comes to mind (btw I've served my time volunteering for many years on the board of the now defunct Georgians for Transportation Alternatives). I've seen homeless people riding the train. And about once a month I see someone who panhandles or has loud music. Frankly I encounter Police officer's on the train far more frequently. Using plain clothes officers seems like overkill. In this day of cell phones I would recommend doing as the signs say and calling in such instances "Dial #MPD on cell phone (AT&T, Sprint, Nextel, Verizon). Blackberry users dial #673" http://www.itsmarta.com/police/see-something.aspx . Or you can say something to the conductor who is at the front of the train when you get off, or you can use the intercom system on the train. Perhaps this is more of a weekend issue. Also I will say I rarely take the east/west line, though I used to when I lived on that side of DeKalb about 15 years ago. It could be that the east/west line has a more panhandling/homeless/loud music nuisance issues.
Eric H October 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM
I will say MARTA's most recent campaign that includes platform signage and other outreach efforts including a video contest evidences that the nuisance issues you identify along with people talking loudly on their cell phones are issues that top MARTA's complaint list and the campaign evidences they are attempting to deal with it. Though again having an officer on every train to tell people to turn down the music or not ask for money seems expensive to me. http://www.itsmarta.com/nuisance-video-contest.aspx Nuisance behaviors. Poor etiquette. Whatever you call it, nobody likes it. According to our customer surveys, the three most common complaints we hear about are: "Having to listen to other riders talking on their cell phones." "People begging for money, or selling music and food." "Listening to other people's loud music with or without ear phones."
HamBurger October 16, 2012 at 02:42 AM
Mr. Eric, I do not think that Atlanta looked at parking revenue for a years’ worth of baseball, football, and other event parking as an oversimplification. The route taken to the stadium would have been an adjustment to the north line. Or, there are maps showing a line off of the north line that may have had a station in the immediate area of the old stadium and continued a route towards the SE Atlanta area. Regardless, when faced with MARTA fares and the hassle of the transfers when visiting Turner Field, we drive. Please pass the yellow mustard!
Brookhaven Maven October 16, 2012 at 03:07 AM
To Eric Hovdesven -- Your defense of MARTA is truly astonishing. As a resident of Sexton Woods in what was previously unincorporated DeKalb County, I can tell you that it is difficult for me to get to and from Chamblee Station without cranking up my car / motorcycle / truck and driving over there. There is no bus that runs from my area to Chamblee Station, but if there were, I could take it. If the Keswick portion of PATH's Nancy Creek Trail were completed, I could bike or walk to Chamblee Station, if the weather allowed. As a practical matter, though, MARTA does nothing for me and my neighbors. If I want to shop in the Perimeter / Ravinia area, I can't take a bus from the Donaldson / Ashford Dunwoody intersection like I formerly could. I have to go to the Chamblee MARTA Station on foot or by vehicle and then spend $5 for a round-trip ticket to the Perimeter Station, where I then get to walk to somewhere like Alon's at Park Place. Please tell me why in the world I'd want to go to all this hassle when I can simply get in my truck and drive three miles? No waiting for trains or buses. Minimal gas cost. I don't have to hump it back to the house from Chamblee Station with $75 worth of deli cheeses and meats getting warm and growing mold on the way home. The same kind of logic applies to my wanting to dine out or shop at Town $embler. I don't see much benefit in waiting for a PIB bus to Chamblee Station only to have to walk to Sexton Woods from there!
Brookhaven Maven October 16, 2012 at 03:27 AM
To Eric H -- Just double checked the on-line MARTA trip planner to make sure there wasn't a bus I didn't know about. I told it I wanted to go from the intersection of Donaldson & Ashford Dunwoody to Perimeter Mall. It instructed me to walk up Johnson Ferry to Peachtree Industrial and catch the 25 bus, then take the 25 to Lenox, take a shuttle to Piedmont, then take the 5 bus up Roswell Road to Dunwoody Station, and then walk to the Mall. Total trip time of 84 minutes! It's no wonder MARTA can't make any money. City of Brookhaven should start its own shuttle / bus service that actually goes into neighborhoods like Sexton Woods, Murphey Candler, Ashford Park, and so on to pick up folks who want to use public transportation, but can't walk that far or can't justify the lengthy trip times necessitated by MARTA's limited routes.
Eric H October 16, 2012 at 04:03 AM
I also don't understand what's so "astonishing" about my defense of MARTA. I don't believe I ever claimed it was perfect. But as a daily rider I find it valuable, safe and more hassle free than driving on the interstates. I know others from the neighborhood use it daily for work as do several of my co-workers, and they aren't all tough men like me ;-).
Eric H October 16, 2012 at 04:12 AM
By the way if by chance you ever did want to go to Lenox Mall or Town Sembler you the 25 also goes the other way down Johnson Ferry to Peachtree and then on to the Lenox Marta Rail station next to Lenox Mall. Granted the 25 bus only runs approximately every 1 hour and 15 minutes so know the schedule. One criticism many have about MARTA is that they were slow to release the code for their bus tracking software that will allow developers to make Apps that will allow you to track the buses on your Smart Phone. MARTA has that function on a website though I've heard its not easily SmartPhone accessible. There is an app for the Atlantic Station shuttle that's great because it shows real time where the shuttle is. This should be what the Bus App ultimately will be, which is important since the buses due to traffic issues do not always run on schedule like the trains.
Eric H October 16, 2012 at 04:37 AM
Mr. Hamburger are you speaking of the somewhat or more recent discussions of rail to South DeKalb? Yes there was a route off the North Line that would go by Turner Field. Though the route recently adopted was swinging the rail down from Indian Creek along 285 and out I-20 a bit. Though part of the reason for that is its less track to lay. I suppose one good question to also ask is why did they extend it from Avondale to Indian Creek? Had they taken a more Southeasterly route perhaps it would be easier to get a station at Wesley Chapel and I20.
HamBurger October 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Mr. Eric, the routes I am speaking of were talked about back in the late ‘60’s or early 70’s. Please pass the yellow mustard!
Eric H October 16, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Oh sorry I read your post incorrectly. Here is an early map of ideas is that spur for future rail going off the North/South line in a Southeasterly direction what you are speaking of? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marta_plan.png


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