NoCityBrookhaven Outraises Cityhood Proponents

Biggest anti-cityhood donors are the families of Tom Cousins and John Imlay.

NoCityBrookhaven has raised $34,000 more than BrookhavenYES in the battle over Brookhaven incorporation, according to campaign finance reports filed on Friday.

11Alive's Jennifer Leslie is reporting that reports show NoCityBrookhaven has raised $70,000, while BrookhavenYES has raised $36,000.

NoCityBrookhaven has also spent $56,000 compared to BrookhavenYES' $30,000, according to the Reporter Newspapers.

The families of two prominent Atlantans - Thomas Cousins and John Imlay Jr. - donated $37,600 to NoCityBrookhaven.

Patrick Hoban, CEO of Troncalli Motors and a Historic Brookhaven resident, was BrookhavenYES' largest financial contributor, donating approximately $17,500 in cash and in-kind contributions.

Earlier in the week, for not meeting the deadline for campaign disclosures.

Eddie E. July 23, 2012 at 04:56 PM
everyman (anonymous yesser) It seems every possible tactic around the edge is being used to lull our area into the permanent tentacles of the one party state. Carping over a piece of real estate that is clearly excluded from Dunwoody is just another tactic. Has anyone spoken with Tom Taylor recently about why he wanted this to happen quickly so he wouldn't have to add (service consuming) neighborhoods to Dunwoody and set aside the notion of reduced taxes once and for all?
don Gabacho July 23, 2012 at 05:04 PM
I hope so. It is ludicrous that 'Say No To Brookhaven' is now on the spot for not reporting "contributions" to stop a scheme the public had never asked for. While incorporation of a municipality is not corporatism, it certainly serves to initiate and eventually subjugate the masses to the systematic authority of obsessively authoritative government on every level. Ex: Hitler's Germany, Stalin's USSR, present-day Mexico and, on the brink, the State of GA, USA and, indeed, Brookhaven. Defining features of corporatist government are the forms and procedures, both formal and informal, employed to impose incorporation of even whole territories and their dissenting populations; ex: the MxGov in Mexico by its corporation of the Mayan Caribbean beginning with the founding of its then new municipality, Cancun, and, via a referendum imposed and under its control, the then new government of the Mx State of Quintana Roo (in 1974); and in the US (by the same MxGov agency and officials) beginning with the incorporation, in GA, of its "Institute of Mexico" (incorporated to "promote culture" but incorporating US governance to Mexico's by...
don Gabacho July 23, 2012 at 05:07 PM
... that government's perceptible co-option of key US public office holders to, in effect, subsequently establish intermediary governments; via, if generally known by the public, their---at minimum---fatally compromising allowance for the provision to, and use by, the MxGov, of even US voter registration forms). Among the procedures is the co-option of opposition, and whole zones, by the invention of a normally independent special-interest group by the incorporating government; followed by its referendums imposed and, ultimately, under its supervision. It is ludicrous for 'Brookhaven No' to be put on the spot for opposing a proposal and even referendum not of the public's. Especially by persons, and a group, who refuse to even acknowledge, much less first bring to task, agents of a foreign power (headquartered within the bounds of the new city proposed no less) for obtaining, having and using still untold numbers of US voter registration forms. Yet you not only insist on the public having confidence in Brookhaven Yes' city but also any and every referendum and election to come! No.
Everyman July 23, 2012 at 05:09 PM
STATEMENT OF MR. EDDIE EHLERT MAZDONLY, LTD. CHAMBLEE, GEORGIA U.S. HOUSE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE ON WORKFORCE, EMPOWERMENT AND GOVERNMENT JUNE 28, 2005 Impressive, Eddie! Clearly you have had advocacy experience, more than most people do, frankly. You raise a decent point: Certain costs are fixed, like Court and Police. That cost is spread over 700,000 people, instead of 750,000, since 50,000 Dunwoody citizens are emancipated. (Rough number, I know you are a detail guy.) The 'cost' you describe is virtually unknowable and negligible. More importantly, the EXPENSE of providing many services to 50,000 residents was eliminated. The County did not reduce it's expenses, though. Inadequate funding - That is conjecture, if people want more, they will pay more, BUT THEY CHOOSE. Balkanization - Rally cry of the County PAC that has not materialized. In fact, local cities are working together on mutual business development, governmental agreements, etc. Are you suggesting that Cobb County has ever shown any interest in working with Fulton or Dekalb? Rush - The CEO form of gov't was wrong for Maloof, and was abused by Vernon. Current CEO has done better, but then there is the Soap Box Derby pet project.... Cityhood is a proven path, now. It works. Newer cities are making it easier to do business. Eddie, I have no beef with you, you care. We'll know more in 8 days.
don Gabacho July 23, 2012 at 05:13 PM
"Democrat DeKalb County operatives the lot of them."--- Dean Obviously you are projecting your own and cohort's inability to think INDEPENDENTLY!
HamBurger July 23, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Mr. William, when this city vote fails, you and I are going to contact the Brookhaven Yes folks and organize to make changes ion our existing government . . . And school system . . . Like Rep. Mike Jacobs should have encouraged to begin with! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Grieg Ericsson July 23, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Everyman: You are mean. http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/portals/news-room/a_release.asp?filePK=1551
Steve Walker July 23, 2012 at 05:41 PM
I think you guys may be mistaken. The used parts Mazda business in Chamblee is Mazmart not Mazda Only. Mazmart is on New Peachtree......MazdaOnly is /was on Vijay drive..... The two are not related. Eddie owns // owned Mazda Only. Rick Engman owns Mazmart.........
HamBurger July 23, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Although this video was posted in late January of this year, it contains some relevant thoughts on cityhood. Careful what you ask for in creating a city . . . You may be creating more problems than you solve . . . http://tinyurl.com/d5f5pcm Please! You need to slice those onions thinner!
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 05:56 PM
I don't disagree Everyman. But lets be careful not to unfairly use the fact Eddie at least identifies himself. And I don't see a need to go after Mr. Eyre. Now if you could figure out just how Hamburger has such great access to inner DeKalb info that would be worthwhile. Though its understandable why some DeKalb insiders don't want to lose even a small part of their power. Wish I had that access, would have saved years of phone calls only to find out the county was trying to sidestep the completion of a measly 100 feet of sidewalks. Lord sending out the head of the department from Decatur in the 11th hour - that's how money is wasted.
Eddie E. July 23, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Steve, Don't add the second 'a' as mazda might just view it as copyright infringement. That's why there isn't and never has been any company in Georgia named Mazda Only (they are or at least were kinda touchy about that).
Eddie E. July 23, 2012 at 06:04 PM
everyman (anonymous yesser) Thanks for the deep googling. Bear in mind, I have been a part of this community for a very long time and in this situation, my view reflects to a great degree the view of my customers. I have been upfront with everyone coming through my doors for nearly two years about my absolute opposition to this nonsense and guess what? To a person, I have not had a single customer who stated support (caveat, there was one person who was on the fence early on and I'm not sure of the final decision). Otherwise, everyone from the area with an interest has been glad to have access to the items proudly identifying them as 'NO CITY' people. Only a fool forces against the will of their neighbors and customers.
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 06:07 PM
He makes great points. Unfortunately if we wait then as seen in the Reporter's coverage we will loose a significant base of the property tax base when Dunwoody takes the Perimeter CID area inside 285 including the Perimeter Summit. As to factions we will have far fewer factions than DeKalb. As to small feel Brookhaven is this Historic Brookhaven or the LCI Brookhaven? Also there really is no Brookhaven in terms of a recognized right or power to determine density, development and police coverage. And Boundaries? We run from 85 to 285 and take everything in that area that is not already incorporated or covered by a proposal to be annexed. Its a fairly clean rectangular shape and its a compact 12 square miles that is easily serviceable.
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Fair and well said: http://abetterbrookhaven.org/city-of-brookhaven/ "In fact, we have board members who favor a new city and members who favor no new city. There are good arguments to be made on both sides of the issue, and we encourage everyone to participate in this lively debate."
William July 23, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Eddie- At least I understand your position better... I would venture that believing that DeKalb is serving our area adequately is a position in the extreme minority. I'll also add that you are probably in the minority in stating that the only people that care about having nice parks are real estate agents. At least we agree on one point, despite the fact that we pay a high cost in taxes and bonds to DeKalb to service the parks, our parks look like they haven't been touched since 1976.
William July 23, 2012 at 06:25 PM
That's your plan B? That somehow we will be able to reverse 20 years of county mismanagement by 'organizing' better? Why don't you have Imlay pay to put that on a flyer? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Plan B. What a joke.
HamBurger July 23, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Mr. Eric, the Lake Hearn/Perimeter Summit property owners are not interested in becoming part of Dunwoody or Brookhaven. They had rather be left alone and remain in unincorporated DeKalb County. Regarding less factions in the new city, that is true. However, the in-fighting will be much fiercer due to proximity and diverging citizen demands. Neighborhoods will be pitted against each other, as well as neighbors. Just look how Mr. Bill was treated because he has a differing opinion from the rest of the folks at the BY gathering yesterday. That is not going away. As far as the city boundaries are concerned, they are one man’s creation for his new city. Not resulting from areas with commonality. Regarding abetterbrookhaven, what would you expect them to say? They are playing it safe because they will be around doing their good work regardless of how the vote goes. Please pass the yellow mustard!
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 07:30 PM
Hamburger that might have been true when Dunwoody first formed but from what I've heard its not true anymore. Do you really think Bob Dallas did that annexation proposal on his own? Word is one of the big property owners doesn't want to go to Brookhaven because he wants to go to DeKalb. I also don't think the officials of Dunwoody are making this stuff up. In terms of factions - overlays for everyone. I agree Brookhaven LCI maybe the more progressive area. Otherwise I'm confident that 4 council people with focused roles will be able to get the job done. True there will be fights but we got to sell papers and have things to post about on the patch, right? Some say the Council people being elected in specific districts will make them more prone to fighting - but the alternative would be city wide? That would seem to disenfranchise the the what maybe the majority interest in a District 4 or 3. "Regarding abetterbrookhaven, what would you expect them to say? They are playing it safe because they will be around doing their good work regardless of how the vote goes." I agree 110% otherwise we know what the answer would be because A City of Brookhaven is the surest way to A Better Brookhaven.
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 07:40 PM
"Mr. William, when this city vote fails, you and I are going to contact the Brookhaven Yes folks and organize to make changes ion our existing government . . . And school system . . . Like Rep. Mike Jacobs should have encouraged to begin with!" Ha! that's the funniest thing I've read in a very long time. Not you and William working together the other part. BTW you do realize these problems have been around long before Mike, heck before even Vernon. As I recall Vernon got the endorsement of the Dunwoody Homeowners Association. Ok now i'm just being flippant. Hamburger you are right the need to fix the schools and the county will still exist if the City of Brookhaven happens. After all it doesn't change the School System and most of our services will still be coming from the county.
William July 23, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Burger/Eric- I hate to break up the conspiracy fest, but it isn't rocket science. Commercial property owners don't get the county's HOST exemptions and therefore can't be swayed by 9th hour DeKalb county, political tomfoolery to manipulate the millage rate. The full impact of the county's historic tax increase was felt by each commercial property owner on Lake Hearn (the largest of which, by far, is Cox Communications) and their understanding of the fact that DeKalb isn't lowering their rate (and probably will have to raise it if history is any guide) is clear. The millage rate offered by Dunwoody or Broohaven would result in tens of thousands of savings every year. My understanding is that 1400 Lake Hearn would save close to $30,000 per year in property taxes under Brookhaven's millage and even more if it was annexed by Dunwoody. Again, it's not rocket science.
Carl Childers July 23, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Eric, This is breaking news and I must get in the middle here if only for a moment. The gas released during a flatus event frequently has a foul odor which mainly results from low molecular weight fatty acids such as butyric acid (rancid butter smell) and reduced sulfur compounds such as hydrogen sulfide (rotten egg smell) and carbonyl sulfide that are the result of protein breakdown. The incidence of odoriferous compounds in flatus increases from herbivores, such as cattle, through omnivores to carnivorous species, such as cats. Flatulence odor can also occur when there is a number of bacteria and/or feces in the anus while being expelled. This is my attempt to explain the need for compulsion disorder to continually type erroneous information - thus myself and others are experiencing these symptoms from this forum. For you see, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
William July 23, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Eric- But this isn't about schools or the services the county will still be providing...this is about municipal services...police, zoning/code enforcement, parks, paving. All of that other stuff will still need work, no doubt about it. I've got 5 kids b/w my family that are on track to be a part of DeKalb's schools...so I'm ready to roll on those issues when Burger is... HOWEVER, that's not what incorporation is about. It is about taking a small and simple step...placing municipal services into the hands of a local municipality. And to me, that choice is an easy one.
Carl Childers July 23, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Any fool knows that the cityhood movement is so passé. And it doesn't take my superior intellect to figure that out, however, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
Eric H July 23, 2012 at 08:15 PM
William I agree.
Everyman July 23, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Once again, HamBurger is totally wrong! The property owners approached SOMEBODY or WERE APPROACHED AND AGREED to annexation. Dunwoody refused the advice of failed mayoral candidate Bob Dallas, an attorney, to annex. Instead waiting until Brookhaven decides on incorporation. They stand to save a material sum by joining a city, you doltish meatwad.
Everyman July 23, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Childers you are an embarrassment to any credible political effort - Please do yourself a favor, study the ramifications of a cranio-rectal inversion before posting ever again, you blithering doofus.
Dr. Jeff July 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Is there a possibility that folks at a picnic, particularly males, would NOT know who a self-important red headed male is? Evidently I missed an important event! For YES & NO's fully identifying themselves on the great Patch of land... if I see you at Chamblee city hall for early voting, then I'll most certainly introduce myself & shake your hand... unless, of course, they are unclean.
Dr. Jeff July 24, 2012 at 12:05 AM
And a bigger fool places customers in uncomfortable situations... Is it no wonder that all but one readily agree? "Just give me my car so that I may flee."
"E Pluribus Unum" July 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Just made it back after voting (No city) earlier this afternoon. The activity was brisk at Chamblee City Hall. It will be interesting to see what the voter turnout will be next week. Just think....this time next week we will be very close to putting this boondoggle to bed.
Truth before Power July 27, 2012 at 12:27 PM
David Scott Rials Chief Executive Officer Live Oak Site Development Inc Cumming, GA Received $15,500 from No City Brookhaven as: Right Path Strategic Affairs Cumming, GA Per Georgia Secretary of State: RIGHT PATH STRATEGIC AFFAIRS, LLC Registered Agent: RIALS, DAVID SCOTT


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