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Jacobs Gives Details of Dunwoody Session & Reasons Why Media Wasn't Invited

State Rep. Mike Jacobs helped host an information session for Brookhaven decision-makers to offer them resources and tools as they embark on the tasks of starting a new city.

State Rep. Mike Jacobs (R-Atlanta) said he planned Monday’s informational session for Brookhaven council candidates and other Brookhaven leaders two weeks ago.

The purpose of the meeting, held at Dunwoody City Hall, was to serve as a “training seminar” for city council candidates, members of the Governor’s Commission on Brookhaven and the commission’s civilian committee co-chairs “to learn from people who were involved in setting up the City of Dunwoody and shepherding the Brookhaven Overlay District and the Perimeter CID into the success that it is,” Jacobs told Brookhaven Patch Tuesday.

What Was Discussed

During the session, attendees asked questions about the challenges Dunwoody faced as it moved towards cityhood and participated in two panel discussions, which were put together by Dunwoody Mayor, Dunwoody Chief of Police and Kim Duncan. The presentations were made by the Brookhaven Peachtree Community Alliance, which discussed the Brookhaven Overlay District and the Perimeter Community Improvement Districts, which described prospects for growth and transportation improvement.

Because Brookhaven is on a tight time schedule as it moves towards cityhood, Jacobs said he wanted to provide the candidates and leaders with more knowledge and resources since Brookhaven closely parallels Dunwoody.

Jacobs said the session would inform Brookhaven decision-makers that resources are available to them, like copies of the RFPs used by Dunwoody, so that “the wheel doesn’t necessarily have to be reinvented.”

“While there are some differences between the two cities, the reality is there no other new cities been down this road in the last four years with the same population, the same county and the same land size,” he said.

Why the Meeting Was Closed to Media

Jacobs said that because the meeting was educational, it was not subject to the Georgia Open Meetings Act. According to the Georgia Open Meetings Act, the session does not even qualify as a meeting.

According to one section of the act, “’Meeting’ shall not include the gathering of a quorum of the members of a governing body or committee for the purpose of attending state-wide, multijurisdictional, or regional meetings to participate in seminars or courses of training on matters related to the purpose of the agency or to receive or discuss information on matters related to the purpose of the agency at which no official action is to be taken by the members.”

 Although Jacobs did not explicitly invite members of the public, he told Brookhaven Patch that “members of the public would not be unwelcome” if they had shown up at the event and that some people he did not recognize as key Brookhaven decision-makers had in fact shown up on Monday.

Campaign staff members nor members of the media were allowed “so city candidates would feel free to ask their questions and get them answered and wouldn’t feel compelled to perform for the media,” Jacobs said. “Having the media present would not be conducive to an educational meeting.”

Although the session was closed to media, campaign staffers and not explicitly announced to the public, it does not qualify as a “closed meeting” as defined by Georgia open meetings laws.

“Obviously, transparency is important,” Jacobs said. “This wasn’t a meeting at which any decisions were made.”

Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 02:29 PM
The city issue was clearly opposed by a loud faction of dems, that much is true. Take EddieE for example. Please, someone, take EddieE... A perfect example of one of your more lucid intervals: " As for the two major political parties, they are pale shadows of their former selves muddled in part by party changes for a politician’s expediency. Politically speaking, Georgia may be a red state, but its actual color is a diluted mix of blue and red." Well written and so true.
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Nick, There you go. Soft deep breaths, perhaps some soothing music and a hint of charbroiled beef in the air. Ahhhhh. Take it all in. Out with the bad air, in with the good. Now. The problem with our politicial system is in fact that pesky aisle down the middle of the room. Do away with that aisle, eliminate the "sides", everyone join together in the middle, and solve some problems. And perhaps, some of Mr. Hamburgers Cheerwine and Perfectly prepared hamburgers enjoyed by all could just be the answer. Don't be mad. It isn't worth it. You're gonna get screwed one way or another, this place or that. Just try to have a little joy whenever you can. You got your city. Be happy. And roll up you r sleeves to hold the Brookhaven Good Ol Boys to task and make them deliver. Otherwise you voted for an ideal not a reality.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 02:59 PM
From the cauldron of dissent comes decisions tempered by reason and debate. Then there is the devolution of the bicameral system that we see today. The Union has survived similar, even worse scenarios - The War of Northern Aggression, for example, but not without BOTH sides rolling up their sleeves and getting involved, speaking their mind and showing their heart. That is my point. You mistake passion for anger, Grieg.
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Unless of course you are angry about passion.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Grieg, Are you paid by Patch to post here?
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Unfortunately, no. I am not. However, I will be glad to accept any sizable monetary donations as I prepare to kick-off my Brookhaven Campaign. I am going to run for District 5...the lost District...which I am going to create. In my District I pledge to tell everyone everything. We will be a completely volunteer District. The 5 year plan is to take over the entire metropolitan area. We will not need a logo nor a police department. We will live amongst you. And we will be watching.
HamBurger October 01, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Mr. Nick, the Patch pays folks to post here? LOL, get your hands on their website demographics, do some research on the company, and then check out the pay structure for their employees. Now, what was your question again? Would you like a special hamburger and a Cheerwine wwhile you do your research?
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 04:35 PM
I am sure that a HamBurger has better information than Forbes. Here we see a recent article substantiating my point of view: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/04/26/aols-patch-adding-8000-bloggers-in-full-on-course-correction/ What about it Patch? Do you have paid blog posters or not? If so, have they ever disclaimed their affiliation? Grieg, thank you for your response, I will take your denial as a truthful comment.
Booyah October 01, 2012 at 05:08 PM
If the Patch paid a penny a post, Hammy would make a fortune for the drivel he posts.
"E Pluribus Unum" October 01, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Nick, you are all over the board. 1. War of Northern Agression? Really? Showing your true colors? The Confederacy was involved in a treasonist war to overturn the United States government and preserve slavery. The Confederacy got its butt kicked. You're not part of "reenactment" battles celebrating you got your butts kicked (again)? 2. Your reference about a "liberal" perspective from the fine folks you mention...so what? Also, please don't be hypocritical. You didn't like it when you were tagged a Rush groupie. You have no clue or knowledge about me to try and put me in your perceived political box. 3. With respect to your expectation that "no voters" now become automatically, compliantly involved, and if not, we are the scum of the earth. Nick, that is unrealistic. I have a very deep level of mistrust as to the manner in which the process for city hood was conducted. I may have been all for it if I felt more community education and input was afforded. I also felt the reluctance to medicate the broad concerns about the CVI study was troublesome. 4. Your Forbes link? What's your point? BTW, when I looked at the comments for that article...3 total. HamBurger gets that many responses when he's not even contributing perspectives. 5. Eddie E., truly a very nice complement..."lucid intervals." Now, how warm and fuzzy do you feel about that (smile)?
"E Pluribus Unum" October 01, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Clarification...even though the medicate reference to the CVI study has substantive meaning, the word is "mediate" and not medicate. Thank you.
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 06:20 PM
I think the dude that wrote the CVI Study was on some kind of downers....thus making the medicate reference very appropriate.
Eddie E. October 01, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Nick, I am employed by my company that has nothing to do with blogging. I blog various places to help lift the fog that would have us all existing so that others can count on an income stream. Citizens don't exist merely for corporations to profit.
Eddie E. October 01, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Nick, Only forbes doesn't tell you that most of the 'paid trolls' are wrong wing nuts and/or inmates paid to parrot a corporate line.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 06:35 PM
EPU: 1.) Slavery is both horrific and inhuman, but did not exclusively start the US Civil War. A. Economic and social differences between the North and the South. B. States versus federal rights. C.The fight between Slave and Non-Slave State Proponents. D.Growth of the Abolition Movement. E. The election of Abraham Lincoln. http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/cause_civil_war.htm 2. Liberals are not the problem, it's their ideas on how to run this, or any other County are not on the side of history or contemporary world scenarios. Greece, Portugal, Spain will all need a rescue loan as their socialist policies are unsustainable. So far, Cityhood is working, large County government is not working. 3. Hyperbole much? "...now become automatically, compliantly involved, and if not, we are the scum of the earth..." How about volunteering and becoming involved with the idea of challenging ideas to make them better? 4. Patch may hire people to increase page hits without any disclosure. To me that is an ethically poor example for the Forth Estate. 5. My comment about lucid intervals is directed at HamBurger, BTW. Rainfall is really hitting hard, we need it. Can we agree on that? Fascinating look at the basis of US social thinking, based on four sets of immigrants. http://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-Cultural/dp/0195069056
Booyah October 01, 2012 at 06:45 PM
How about sharing your academic credentials so we can all see how qualified you are to denigrate the University of Georgia.
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Even the University of Georgia has duds. Just ask this lady. http://tinyurl.com/8pvcq8n Now leave me alone and continue with your obfuscations and FUD.
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Dick or is it Nick? Whatever. Your rotund master and his unibrow friend will screw the city up just fine by themselves.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 06:59 PM
EddieE, you are a job creator, I know you piddle around here partly for fun, partly because you are angry at what happened. I get that. I think that in three years, you will feel a lot better about this new city...
"E Pluribus Unum" October 01, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Hey Nick, your response is total BS avoidance and redirection. One question with two parts. Where is your klan hood and Rush L. blow-up doll? Now sincere advice....your only hope is to totally submit your bad self to Carl Childers and Joe the Plumber for their "professional grade heavy duty" extraction process. The rehab will include heavy doses of HamBuger prose necessary to keep you out of the fog. As a paid Patch blogger, he is extremely qualified to do this with the lost, lonely and dillusional. God speed dear soul. PS Eddie E., I'm trying to match your level of lucid intervals. Damn, you've set a high bar for me! PSS Greg, you're right again. Medicate really is more appropriate.
"E Pluribus Unum" October 01, 2012 at 07:49 PM
A Resident....denigrate the UGA? For what? Grieg isn't the one who embezzled the $ from CVI.
"E Pluribus Unum" October 01, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Correction...Grieg and not Greg. I don't want Nick to become more confused.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Avoidance and redirection? Did you learn those words from your mental health therapist, who barely kept from giggling out loud, as you explained your fear-centric, pathetic life in less than 12 minutes? Fecund blivet with a computer!
Grieg Ericsson October 01, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Nick! Now you are a clairvoyant. I'm impressed.
Nick Maltese October 01, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Unlike you Grieg, I have an immense capacity to recall discussions because I listen. EddieE is irascible, but can actually string together cohesive points on which we can disagree, whereas you are far more comfortable speaking of toiletry hygiene. Sad pathetic, little troll.
Eddie E. October 01, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Nick, I will probably feel better once all the money is spent and the vote to dissolve is looming.
Eddie E. October 01, 2012 at 09:55 PM
EPU We live in a time when people associate a tentacle of the University of Georgia (although being a quasi-private entity) with being a 'neutral authority' on the issue of municipalization. Folks don't understand that 'you get the answers you pay for' and the CVI has no dog in the fight once they are paid. It's like the misguided swath of the population that assumes 'SACS' is a bastion of educational expertise rather than a for profit tentacle of the CofC. And still, everyone gets to vote.
"E Pluribus Unum" October 02, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Eddie E., excellent point. It's not surprising since a significant portion of the Georgia General Assembly are UGA grads. The back and forth back scratching between the state university and GA is expected. Unfortunately Brookhaven got caught in the cross fire of CVI scratching.
Brokenhaven October 03, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Somebody p'd off ole Nick. Maybe it time for him to take his Kool Aide with a Wafer Thin Mint, I'll call the cleaning lady and have her bring a bucket
Political Gadfly October 03, 2012 at 05:08 PM
^^^^^ The meaning of the message above is very nebulous. Could you repost your thoughts in plain Engrish ? Thank you very much.

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