Brookhaven Cityhood: So What Happens Now?

Reaction comes in, as the legislation is now in the hands of Gov. Nathan Deal.

So now what?

Passed in (literally) the final hours of the 2011-12 Georgia General Assembly session, the . 

Deal can either sign the bill, veto it, or simply take no action on it whatsoever. If he signs the bill, the issue of Brookhaven incorporation will be put to voters on July 31.

“The legislative process has run its course," said , R-Atlanta, the bill's primary sponsor. "It has been a tough road, but I am glad that the citizens will have the right to choose their form of local government. That is what HB 636 is all about.”

Ashford Neighbors, a group of Brookhaven and unincorporated DeKalb County residents, in the creation of the proposed city.

Shortly after Thursday night's vote, , D-Atlanta, told Patch, "I look forward to the continuation of the robust community debate on this issue, and it will be very interesting to see how the community decides in July."

"I am worried about the financial injury to DeKalb County if another new large city is created," said , D-Decatur. "But, I also don't know if the voters will approve new taxes for duplicated services."

through which groups of residents would have to follow to gain cityhood. Jacobs argued throughout the session that this measure has followed the same, two-year process that the cities of Sandy Springs and Dunwoody followed, on their way  to incorporation.

For a bill that created so much controversy under the Gold Dome this session, passage in the state House on Thursday night came quietly and without any fireworks. Jacobs took the floor shortly before 10:30 pm to ask for approval for the Senate's amendments to his bill.

The Brookhaven Republican took no questions from the well of the House, and outgoing , D-Atlanta, offered the only comment from the floor, highlighting the DeKalb legislative delegation's overall opposition to the bill.

Earlier in the session, House Majority Leader Ed Lindsey, R-Atlanta, led an effort to The Senate version reverted to the city's original name, and Lindsey - one of House's most influential members - offered no objection to the change from the floor.

HamBurger April 26, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Should your new city pass I can see that you will be the toast of the city council meetings! Please pass those thin sliced pickles!
Hamburgee luv Stevie April 26, 2012 at 09:04 PM
" Ask them, as they have not responded to me. Not a single one of them."- cut and pasted from your earlier post. I guess one could misquote one's self but Hambergeron seems too smart for that.
Hamburgee luv Stevie April 26, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Hamburgee and Stevie sittin' in a tree, crying out No ci-ttteee. First comes wuv 'den comes domestic partnership, out comes burgee in a baby carriage
Hamburgee luv Stevie April 26, 2012 at 09:16 PM
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Intermittent Steve April 26, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Well Dean, I could only be so lucky... but I'm a vegetarian.
HamBurger April 26, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Hey, if you have to get down and dirty in the trenches to push your new city, well . . . You gotta do what you gotta do! Go for it man! Let me know when you want that hamburger!
Intermittent Steve April 26, 2012 at 09:24 PM
So... is this your way of trying to tell me that you will be seeking office in the new city of Brookhaven?
Enuff Govt Already April 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM
If 3 people show up and 2 vote yes then it passes. Pure mob rule and not good gov't.
Enuff Govt Already April 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM
"The voter base in Dekalb will never go for reform of either because the permanent-class of elected officials and their progeny have demonstrated (before any of this began) that change in that manner is impossible. That is the whole reason this movement has happened." Who is the "voter base"? I don't remember this outcry about the CEO style of gov't when Maloof and Levitan ran the county. Is it because the "progeny" has changed that new cities and annexations are needed instead of working to produce viable candidates. While I'm no fan of the CEO or commission I do remember the CEO wanting to outsource (revenue collections) and eliminate (extension office) while the commission refused. I also remember the city council of D'woody trying to saddle their tax payers with a 66 million debt. A Brookhaven city would behave the same way!
HamBurger April 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM
TOD has some interesting comments on the mouthpiece for the Brookhaven Yes folks, enjoy. Dunwoody Fan Rag Taking It Home http://tinyurl.com/cnwnpx7 Those are some of the best thin sliced pickles I have ever eaten!
Hamburger getting Borked April 27, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I guess wanting hamburgalino to tell the truth on himself means "get(tin') down and dirty"
the Colonel April 27, 2012 at 01:26 AM
ATTENTION Pvt. Borked. State the purpose of your insults. Results MAJOR confusion. DEF-CON 4. OVER.
HamBurger April 27, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Mr. AngryMan, I put all of your post on the big screen so my customers could see them. We got some laughs regarding your juvenile comments. However, everyone wants to know why you are messing with little ole Mr. Hamburger instead of holding your elected state officials more accountable? Stay in that muddy trench and flail around to your heart’s content. But if your new city passes, you are going to have to take a bath before you come to city council meetings . . . If you don’t, I am sure there will be a law passed. On the other hand, maybe you should skip happy hour when your computer is on? Your hamburger is ready when you are . . .
Hamburger getting Borked April 27, 2012 at 04:46 AM
Meow, meow, meow, meow- meow, meow, meow, meow .......... Tell 'da troof!
Stan April 27, 2012 at 01:46 PM
@Enuff So if ONLY 3 people show up to vote for TSPLOST and 2 vote yes then it passes. How about a senator, or a congressman. It can be argued that TSPLOST will have more impact on our area than a new city government. Pure mob rule. Or pure democracy.
Jack of Kings April 27, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Well, it finally has happened. One relentless poster balancing inane hamburger tips with real commentary has taken over this board and is no longer worth posting on. Nice job, Hamburger. I am done with this soap opera. Ms. Arnold should thankyou for cutting traffic to the Patch site--or at least to this board.
Bill Lowe April 27, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Sometimes when a hard question is asked, distraction is the best form of avoidance......Hide the problem within the thread with a bunch of garbage.....or change the subject. You can call it shill posting or PR manipulation. Hopefully the small group behind this effort will go ahead and start planning the new city---like Dunwoody did before the vote takes place. Form committees, put out the agendas for the new city. Set priorities. You know, let the people know what they are really going to be getting when they go to vote. Right now as it stands, you are voting on an idea without any solid plans. Successful implementation depends on a good plan and good people to put it together. If people just want the right to vote, you are more than likely going to get that. But vote for something complete---a city plan with accurate numbers and a real budget. Now is the time to put it down on paper and distribute it so the voting public will know what they are getting with their Yes vote. I know it sounds like a lot of work, and it is. Using the CVI study as an estimate is fine for getting it through the state government, but is not a blueprint for a new city government. I am sure that all of the Brookhaven Yes! boardmembers and the previous C$ND folks will be happy to sit down over the next few weeks and draw out some real numbers for the future city. The voters will surely appreciate all of their hard work.
Intermittent Steve April 27, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Phil, I think you are confusing the real (100% all beef) HamBurger with the pro-city guy using several variations of the name that has evidently gone off his meds... FYI.
HamBurger April 28, 2012 at 01:05 AM
Mr. Phil, contrary to what you say, nothing has happened. I have asked questions and I have gotten no direct response. I have pointed out that certain state elected officials with power and influence have not addressed certain county related issues in favor of dedicating their efforts towards the creation of a new city in our county. I have pointed out that these very same elected officials have had a hands off attitude towards our troubled public education system when they could use their political connections and influence to bring attention to and speed up the clean-up and recovery of this school system that is the tax responsibility of all DeKalb citizens with exception of the city of Decatur. These same elected officials are not very well respected on a local school blog for their inaction in a desperate time of assistance. I have pointed out flaws in the posts of others not stating facts and clarifying inaccuracies of others.
HamBurger April 28, 2012 at 01:06 AM
I get very few answers to my questions, yet I am castigated with demeaning and ridiculing posts for asking questions of a proposal that will affect my property and personal rights. Your post is just a more polite continuation of this program to slam anyone that is adverse to your new city. The continued insults of those that refuse to respond intelligently only serve to show the shallowness of those Hell bent on forcing their will on others. Regardless, tonight I am getting ready to have a lump grilled medium rare hamburger with thin sliced onions and pickles and yellow mustard and enjoy the rest of this very fine gorgeous Georgia evening!
HamBurger April 28, 2012 at 01:09 AM
I see where Mr. Jeff Keller, a tax professional and if I am not mistaken a C4ND and Brookhaven member, in a response letter to Reporter Newspapers, has stated specific services that his new city will provide. He is in error. HB 636 does not specify any specific new city services, but allows the officials elected in November to make their official selections of city services to make that selection after election. I have asked this question previously and pointed out the error, yet no one from the pro-city folks have corrected me or clarified anything. Neighborhood feels ‘steamrolled’ by cityhood talk http://tinyurl.com/d8pc3tc Respectfully, correct me if I have this wrong. Otherwise, enjoy your properly prepared hamburgers this evening!
Hamburgie hav feelwins' too April 28, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Uh oh. Hamburgie can dish it out but can't stand the reciprocation. I am pretty sure no one reeking of burgers has asked any questions at any public or private event that haven't been answered. Anonymous posting doesn't count and lying about asking direct questions to real individuals isn't doing God's work. Hurumpy dump dump!
the Colonel April 28, 2012 at 03:32 AM
Son, you've gone off the deep end. Section 8. Soldier down. OVER.
Gilligan April 28, 2012 at 07:16 AM
Dear Sirs, In the interest of all that is good here on this tiny island in the south pacific, please consult this instructional video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTVpxxzb2Dc&feature=youtube_gdata_player -g
SayWhat? April 28, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Just an observation about parks. There are 9 designated parks in the City of Brookhaven footprint. 3 in District 1, 5 in District 2, 1 in District 3 (just barely) and none in District 4. It is likely that some agreement on routine maintenance can be achieved by providing this requirement to a competent manager. The problem that is likely to arise is the allocation of signifiant funds between Districts for capital improvement, major maintenance or property acquition. It does not take much imagination to anticipate a District 1 request for significant improvements to Murphy Chandler (dredging likely out of the question) or Blackburn. The District 4 person can ask "What parks?" The parks are where they are and we are going to have to rely on city government to do the right thing, whatever that is. One thing that is not likely to happen is for a city crew to clean up every pavillion after every public use. This is a resource allocation problem we can hope is handled reasonably; but, someone is not going to get what they think they should and I don't know who that is yet.
Booyah April 28, 2012 at 04:06 PM
I'm sorry but this is a lame tactic. Trying to start infighting between districts when a city doesn't even exist. How about you have more traffic lights in your district then I do, or my street lights use less power. Lame, lame, lame. A good city manger deals with maintenance issues and a good master plan deals with the difference between capital improvements and maintenance.
don Gabacho April 28, 2012 at 04:59 PM
(1 of 2) Despite the blatant conflict of interest it was and remains, Jacobs sat, and may still sit, on the so-called "citizen committee" of 'Brookhaven Yes' resulting in Brookhaven Yes being as responsible for: 1) Jacobs' conflict of interest as Jacobs, 2)the resulting---and lingering---burden thrust upon the public trust, 3) and irrevocable perception, if not reality, of Brookhaven Yes being an unduly formed governmental commission composed of, in part, private citizens serving, witting or not, as proxies of Jacobs and like public office-holders or, if witting, outright vigilantes. The whole having all the earmarks of "corporatist" governance. "Corporatist" as in the form and procedure of governance that---both formally and informally---incorporates entities ordinarily independent from government* into government and its central, obsessively hegemonic authority. *Ex: labor unions, teacher associations, bar associations, civil rights organizations, the media, churches, academia, citizen committees, neighborhoods and governments including municipal, state and national. The incorporation (subordination) can be accomplished by co-option of existing entities or even invention of displacing entities, including "citizen committees." cont...
don Gabacho April 28, 2012 at 05:00 PM
(2 of 2) "Corporatist" governance was the form and procedure of governance of Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy and, since time immemorial to the present, the form and procedure of governance of Mexico's leadership in Mexico. And, as Mexico's governance continues to penetrate the USA to even engage itself illegally in our own elections---and be allowed too---so does"corporatist" governance become the form and procedure of US governance. Should it---even now---not be stopped?
Carl Childers April 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Good morning. I wanted to share a letter I got this weekend. Dear Sir, The Patch is pretty lame these days. Sincerely, Don Knotts.
don Gabacho April 29, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Carl Childers:"...we will have to shoulder a County AND A CITY!" But Jacobs' handlers now have it mandated that 'More is Less'! Heed and be saved.


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