Jail Is One Of Many Cityhood Considerations

A new city of Brookhaven would not have its own jail - at least, not in the beginning - meaning that anyone arrested here would have to be incarcerated elsewhere.

Individuals arrested in a city of Brookhaven would likely be housed at the DeKalb County Jail at I-285 and Memorial Drive, a location between 10-20 miles from the city’s proposed boundaries.

But discussions have arisen at various cityhood meetings that suggest a regional detention facility in partnership with nearby cities could be a possibility in a few years.

The DeKalb Sheriff’s Department administers the county jail, and as city of Brookhaven would not assume any of the sheriff’s department services, including its nationally recognized Fugitive Squad. 

“If taxpayers’ money would be saved by partnering with some neighboring cities to house inmates at one of their facilities or a regional facility, that is something that would merit a lot of consideration,” said J. Max Davis, chairman of BrookhavenYES. “But saving taxpayer money would be the only motivation.”

The Carl Vinson Institute Brookhaven Feasiblity Study was completed under the assumption that a Brookhaven city would continue to use the DeKalb jail to house its prisoners. The study also said that only individuals awaiting sentence by a Brookhaven municipal court would need to be housed in the DeKalb jail.

DeKalb’s jail was completed in 1995, according to the Sheriff’s Department public information office, and spans 940,000 square feet. At normal capacity, it can house 3,736 inmates, and could expand to accommodate as many as 3,900 individuals.

The county jail can receive any person arrested in DeKalb on any state, county or city charge. The city of Dunwoody has no jail, and currently transports its arrestees to DeKalb’s facility.

Chamblee, however, does have its own jail, with 26 beds. It is classified as a short-term detention center, meaning it cannot house inmates for extended periods of time or sentences. Those inmates are transported to the DeKalb jail.

Doraville also has its own temporary jail, which not only houses persons arrested in the city, but also those from Sandy Springs and Johns Creek. The facility has 52 beds and five holding cells. Individuals who need to be incarcerated for longer periods are also taken to DeKalb’s facility.

The population of Sandy Springs (93,853) and Johns Creek (76,728) are both greater than a city of Brookhaven's estimated population of 49,188.

Davis said neighboring mayors “are excited about the possibility of a city of Brookhaven, not only to discuss regional detention facilities but other cooperative collaborations as well. Maybe down the road we could discuss ways of expanding the Chamblee or Doraville detention facilities in a cost-effective way, that could save Brookhaven some taxpayer dollars by reducing the mileage needed to drive to the DeKalb jail.

“It’s nice to know that other cities are excited about these possible opportunities.”

Bob Martell May 31, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Greg, its important to remember that Peachtree Corners isnt even a city yet. We dont officially open for business until July 1st. The mayor and all but one of the council members live within 2 miles of me, so they are 'neighbors' in that sense, but they arent spending any of my tax dollars- YET. Since the city hasnt started yet, they havent collected any taxes. But they sold us the same line about local control. Point is, they used the Vinson to sell the gullible up here on the idea of a city. Last week they got a $2.8 Million wake up call and now they have a pr problem on their hands...Brookhaven's study only has about $150k worth of slack in it. If your study ends up being as accurate as ours, you're in trouble.
Bill Charter May 31, 2012 at 04:05 PM
SECTION 1.0.3 Powers and construction. LINE 41 (a) This city shall have all powers possible for a city to have under the present or future Constitution and laws of this state as fully and completely as though they were specifically enumerated in this Act. I AM BROOKHAVEN! HEAR ME ROAR! Thanks and have a super nice day : ) Sincerely, Bill Charter HB 636
Bill Charter May 31, 2012 at 04:11 PM
LINE 138 (16) Jail sentences. To provide that persons given jail sentences in the city's court may work out such sentences in any public works or on the streets, roads, drains, and other public property in the city; Welcome to the City of Brookhaven Roads & Drainage Department! And please remember to hydrate ; ) Sincerely, Bill Charter HB 636
Enuff Govt Already May 31, 2012 at 04:29 PM
A city jail. Great,can't wait for the bail bondmans businesses to pop up and the recently released to linger longer than necessary. Vote no.
HamBurger May 31, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Mr. Martell, we appreciate your input here! Hopefully, folks in our area that have become enamored with the concept of a new city will note of your posts and make time to review the Brookhaven Vinson study and take a microscopic look at HB 636. For those not familiar with what Mr. Martell is talking about take a look: Would They Vote “YES” Again? http://tinyurl.com/7hvb9zp http://tinyurl.com/7j8k7xp As for our Vinson study, if another shoe drops, and it belongs to Bigfoot, a lot of folks are going to get hurt! Sir, Mr. HamBurger has as many of his special hamburgers with thin sliced sweet onions and pickles with yellow mustard as you like!
HamBurger May 31, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Mr. Greg, last night as I was dreaming about my special hamburgers I was awakened to a vision of J. Max Davis above me speaking in tongues. In the palm of his hand he had a large, round cockroach translating his convoluted and incomprehensible gibberish into English. And this is what he said: Mr. HamBurger, we must pass the city to see what it and the chosen selected to run it will bring us . . . This is your future mayor speaking . . . Now I have a damn hole in the ceiling from three rounds of buckshot I need to get patched! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Bill Charter May 31, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Mr. Already, let's look at the bright side of lingering longer than necessary - tourism! SECTION 1.05. Tourism, conventions, and trade shows. LINE 262 - The Brookhaven Convention and Visitors Bureau is hereby created. Yours for just $211,796 tax dollars per year! Thank YOU so very, very much : ) Much love, Bill Charter HB 636
not one of 60 May 31, 2012 at 05:00 PM
I hope you all are arrested in a roadblock on Dresden: and end up on Memorial drvie in a power outage! XO!
Bill Charter May 31, 2012 at 05:12 PM
You, my good man, have a very promising future in the city of Brookhaven! LINE 372 - (c) The number of consecutive terms an individual may hold a position as a councilmember shall be unlimited. XOXO ; ) Very truly yours, Bill Charter HB 636
not one of 60 May 31, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Don't want to run in office just want my sinking proerty value to riase. But DEADkab schools and DEADkab goverment: won't HAPPEN! enjoy youe DEADkab pension! Hope you get a COLA!
not one of 60 May 31, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Jail si taking alot of commetns: DEADkab Police and sheriff unions at work again? FOR REALZ?!?!?! Watch the NEWS for corrpution stories! Bound to be many many MANY more! LOL!
City Yes May 31, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Albie - Polls of residents in the city limits are showing a 2 to 1 Pro City breakout. How is that the death of a movement?
not one of 60 May 31, 2012 at 05:45 PM
Why do you think the anti folks are out "en force"....losing the Deadkab is Great Campaign! i mean really, with all of that corruption and mismangement! It is a tough battle - lies never prevail however! Can we say pass the soy! HE HE HE!
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 06:14 PM
city yes, Where are the 'polls' you reference published? I haven't seen anything with support for the 'Opposed City' approaching anything over 45%.
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 06:16 PM
linger longer? Is mercer reynolds going to be in charge of the jail?
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 06:17 PM
Bill, Has the position of 'jester' yet to be defined? It seems there are several deluded souls already in heated competition.
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 06:18 PM
> 1/60th, Your property values are what they always were, a great place to live close to just about anywhere ITP you want to go. If you bought in between 2002 and today, sorry, you were victim of a 'bubble', but take heart, live here long enough and we will still outpace the Metro Area.
Bob Roche May 31, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Doraville pays twice for a jail. We pay DeKalb county and we pay for our own. There was no additional cost to Doraville when a city council candidate was arrested and jailed in Dekalb county on charges brought by city employees. (He was collecting signatures to recall the then Mayor and a currently serving council member and was found not guilty on all charges.) The police chief, with the support of the city council majority, refuses to provide separate cost accounting for the Doraville jail, presumably because he doesn't want anyone to know how much it costs.  The Doraville jail had two suicides in as many years. They no longer take prisoners from other towns because were losing too much money on it 
Bill Charter May 31, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Mr. E. My position here is yet to be defined. I prefer to keep things as vague and open-ended as possible - for obvious reasons : ) LINE 635 - This requirement of two readings shall not apply to ordinances passed during the first 90 days from the date on which the city begins operation, to ordinances adopted at the first business meeting of the city council in a calendar year, or to ordinances adopted at the first meeting of the initial city council elected under subsection (b) of Section 2.02 of this charter. See what I mean? ; ) Take care, Bill Charter HB 636
City Yes May 31, 2012 at 07:04 PM
Eddie E - The poll that has been published (by Brookhaven Reporter) was open to anyone from anywhere....do you think some South Siders voted in that? Even our own Billy Lowe who readily admits he's not in the city limits but certainly has a lot to say about it is one that won't get a say come July 31. As are the big money bag snobs in Fulton County Historic Brookhaven - no vote come July 31. But they can certainly vote in any newspaper poll they want to.....2 to 1....
Intermittent Steve May 31, 2012 at 07:25 PM
City Yes... I wonder if you're talking about the latest of several phone polls that Brookhaven Yes has done... I guess the point of doing repeated polls is to keep asking different people until you finally find the ones that agree... but that kinda defeats the purpose, no?
HamBurger May 31, 2012 at 07:40 PM
City Yes, you put that much faith in Brookhaven Yes’s leading question telephone poll based on a limited population? The word is you have a very long way to go. Don’t believe me? When Rep. Mike Jacobs stops running around like a squirrel chasing a nut trying to figure out just what is going on with all this rejection of his new dream city, ask him. Oh, on second thought, maybe you shouldn’t. He, Mr. Stan, and Mr. J. Max Davis are working hard to figure out how to cloak the flaws in the very flawed Vinson study! Please, I told you no ketchup on these special hamburgers! Ketchup is for French fries!
HamBurger May 31, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Mr. Bob, this is a very interesting post. Thank you for sharing that little tidbit of city information. Sounds like the Doraville elected officials are really watching out for their constituents. Just curious, were there suits brought against the city because of suicides of the individuals in custody? You know how litigious it out here . . .
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 08:06 PM
city yes, I got one of those robocall phone polls a while back. After several 'press 2 for NO' responses the thing hung up on me. Did you guys hire rasmussen to do that because it kinda smelled through the phone like a rasmussen robo-poll.
Eddie E. May 31, 2012 at 08:08 PM
Bob, Back to my first post. Maybe the 'Opposed City' will just put up a fence in the Ashford Park and have everybody stand around until some jail could be found to take them. In the meantime they could shake the sand off the toys and keep it raked.
Bill Lowe June 01, 2012 at 04:52 AM
Not one of 60: I know it is late, and I have had some alcohol, but really, I have to ask this, however politically incorrect it may be: When you were a baby, were you dropped or thrown or are you naturally this way? Just curious cause you write like a moron, can't spell or even as a slight compliment can't type. You make your whole "position" look bad. And I usually don't talk bad about females, cause you know, they are the superior sex of the human race.....I find it hard to believe that anyone would ever want to breed with you. (It does not matter what you look like---you could be drop dead georgeous---but being a moron, is a significant turn off.) Sorry to everyone I offended in the previous comments, but I certainly applaud the City Promoters for allowing this entity of "not one of 60" to continue to post publicly in favor of the city.
"E Pluribus Unum" June 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM
HamBurger...yes Silver Lake! We could transport and dump rocks in the middle of it and build the jail on top of it, a la Alcatraz. We could name the place "Pebbles"...in honor of what's rolling ahead inside the heads of those who won't accept the obvious that a new city ADDS another layer of bureaucracy. And in good time, any of our crooked, unethical and receiving kickbacks for "enhanced" city services, can be detained on Pebbles awaiting due process. Your onions are especially sassy tonight!
"E Pluribus Unum" June 14, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Bob R., please don't confuse folks with facts and practical examples of how Nirvanaville might not be so wonderful. It's too overwhelming. But thank you for your worthy observation. PS can't wait to see the next new and improved Yes flier discounting BR's comments.
"E Pluribus Unum" June 14, 2012 at 04:35 AM
Bob Martell...thank you. Your voice of practical experience and insight is greatly appreciated. The only negative coming out of your comments? The fliers/mailings and robo calls from Yes will definitely spike in an attempt to drown out your message.
GuruLikeDrucker July 30, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Eddie E = Full time activist/part time car mechanic. With these credentials, no one will argue that you aren't well qualified to debate the merits and financial viability of a proposed city.


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