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DeKalb Invests In Parks But Not In Brookhaven

In The Forum, the author says Brookhaven dollars should be spent on local parks and not those in other parts of DeKalb.

The parks are great in DeKalb.

As long as you don’t live in Brookhaven.

Wade Walker Park is about to open.  And , the project is estimated to cost $20 million! 

In fact, Stone Mountain Patch article has the following quote: “’This is a public/private partnership and this [collaboration] will lead us to bigger and better partnerships” Johnson [DeKalb County Commissioner] said.’ The project is expected to cost $20 million dollars, he said.”

According to DeKalb County documents, the county spends $331,040 to operate Ashford, Blackburn, Briarwood, Lynwood, Murphey Candler and Skyland Parks; that’s 6 parks in North DeKalb!

That’s right. Six parks!!! That is a mere 1.6% of the cost of the Wade Walker improvements! 

Why stop there, DeKalb County?

Here is where DeKalb has sent YOUR tax dollars. 

In 2008, DeKalb County constructed a $7-million water park in South DeKalb

To top things off, CEO Burrell Ellis decided it would be a good idea to build a $1 million dollar Soap Box Derby Track in South DeKalb.

Forget the fact that Lynwood Park can’t get a new playground or sand for the sand box. Forget the fact that Ashford Park had overflowing toilets for two weeks. Ignore the fact that Blackburn Park is run down and neglected.

Add it ALL up.

The six parks in Brookhaven get 1.1% of what three parks in other parts of DeKalb will get just for improvements!

To add insult to injury, in 2005, DeKalb County approved a $230,000,000 Bond Referendum for the improvement of transportation, parks/greenspace, and library infrastructure. And $40,000,000 of the parks bond money was spent on county operations and NOT on parks.

In the proposed city of Brookhaven, the 50,000 residents would have a Parks and Recreation department dedicated to improving parks in this area ONLY and YOUR local tax dollars will be dedicated to parks in this area only.

It is time to make a change. It is time for a more local focus and time for better parks.

It is time for a city of Brookhaven.

Dean Stansel

HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Dr. Jeff, look at you, an intelligent, learned man arguing with and insulting that little ole hamburger maker, me! Remember, our conversation here started because I asked another a simple question. Your verbal assaults and your compulsion to flash your credentials give insight to the person you actually are. Special hamburger with thin sliced onions, pickles, and yellow mustard with a Cheerwine? Made fresh just for you!
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Dr. Jeff, self appointed NO leaders . . . I like that. Kind of like Rep. Mike Jacobs not consulting with two-thirds of his proposed new city to see if there was interest in cityhood creation and the self appointed Brookhaven Yes leaders . . . I like that . . . Ready for your special hamburger and a Cheerwine?
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Oh Hamburgular... There ya go again.... You can dish your foul insults and tainted burgers but you can't face the fact that you're unhinged... All will be well soon when the men in white coats arrive to take you back to your special place so that you can cook, eat & drink all things special. Just don't choke... Your constant harassment of others coupled with your lies, red herring tosses, and silly emotional behavior demonstrate just who you are. And I, for one, don't mind conversing with a miscreant. To do so provides me with great insight into the infirm. By the.way, you never answered my question from about 10 days ago about what happened to our new library and why the money for it was taken from the bond referendum and used for county ops! You seem to be short on truth yet huge with FUD.
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 05:04 PM
On behalf of all civilized people, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to Hamburgular. A segment of the population was remiss by not inviting Hamburgular and his sand box friends to special meetings about cityhood for Brookhaven. What a grevious traumatic thing to experience. Of course, I know how to read and viewed all the email, publications, & invitations. Since I was against cityhood I wanted no part of it but then again I wanted no part of DeKalb county's ineptness either. And now, thanks to the wonderful <sic> commentary from Hamburgular and a couple of others I can see a different vision and possibilities. An enriched city no longer in the role of county paupers who pay more than their fair share and receive a very small morsel while others feast at grand banquets. And now, let's be reminded of the NO camp and their extremely cozy relationships to the county and its consultants. Were you invited to serve your special repas at their banquets Hamburgular? Did you serve them with your special fudge?
HDM July 14, 2012 at 05:18 PM
Hamburger, Ms Mesh (Professor) and some of the other FUD slingers here have the tendency to send the undecided right over to the Brookhaven city camp. Very few fall for their FUD and the mean spirited name calling and personal attacks reflect very poorly on them.
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Many folks in the NO camp are not happy with their county government but choose to work within the system to change it. Even if the new city vote passes, we will still be in DeKalb and then we will have two governments that the involved will have to work with. Am I the only one that finds it amusing that the YES camp is critical of citizens being involved with their government? Dr. Jeff, man! You are on a roll! Don’t stop now, let your words reveal yourself! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Ms. July 14, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Quick comment/question- I have been following this issue from afar, but have been reading about this on a regular basis. Can someone explain the ketchup/mustard/condiment comments? I have seen at least a couple hundred over the past couple of months and always wonder what exactly they reference? Does this have something to do with the part of Brookhaven you're in? I have to be honest that they're pretty much a distraction and make it more difficult to follow when they're in every single post.
Jack of Kings July 14, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Hamburger, I do not know if you were at the Oglethorpe meeting, but Ms.Siegel on the NoCity panel triggered an interesting response when she confirmed that it takes time and effort to foster relationships within the Dekalb Government to make sure you will be heard. And after years of working with Dekalb, she and others have built relationships and have learned the system to get things done. She has put the time and effort investment into the current system. In a way, I can understand her consternation that after now knowing who to go to and how to make sure her concerns are "represented", there are some BYesers rousers that come along and threaten to disrupt the political landscape after finally knowng who, what and where to go in the Dekalb government. But for those that do not have the "inside track", local representation for the services that a new city will offer is a decided improvement than having to put in the time to learn the ropes like Jody Siegel clearly has learned. Everyone has an agenda. I have mine--pretty mundane as it is . I just believe there is room for substantial improvement in parks, roads etc. in Brookhaven if local management is in place. And I like the idea of outsourcing. But, that is just my opinion.
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Ms., respectfully, Mr. HamBurger never serves/uses ketchup unless it is on French fries. The comments on my trade, to the uninitiated, are nothing but a thing . . . If a distraction, just do not read the last paragraph. Or, you can learn another language or three and it will improve comprehension. Same if you take up musical instruments. Special hamburger and a Cheerwine? Those thin sliced onions and pickles are divine, please pass the yellow mustard!
Steve Walker July 14, 2012 at 08:22 PM
The person to whom you are referring I believe is Jodi Cobb......and yes she does have the "inside track" to the County as she is a personal friend of Kathy Gannon.
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Mr. Phil, Ms. Cobb. Please pass the yellow mustard!
Jack of Kings July 14, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I stand corrected. Ms. Jodi Cobb. Thank you .
Pothole Pete July 14, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Phil , Ms. Cobb is mr. HamBurger.
Ms. July 14, 2012 at 10:23 PM
H- Why would you assume I don't speak any other languages, or play an instrument simply because I don't speak the condiment lingo? (I do btw) I was simply trying to figure out if it was code for something that I was unaware of. No need to be nasty.
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Phil: I was not at the recent forum. Would you be kind enough to share the responses Jodi triggered? I realize she has a special relationship with DeKalb's fiefdom and doesn't want to lose that because change is so frightful to some. But then again her relationship can't be that strong cuz I don't see any new and significantly improved multi-million facilities in Brookhaven. Seems like she's grateful for the morsels she's received. DeKalb continues its tradition of placating and pacifying its northern parts while digging deep into our wallets. I know we can do BETTER!
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Mr. PP, how cute. Any insight into who keyed Ms. Cobb’s automobile? Mr. Phil, an acquaintance pointed you out as you were making the rounds at Oglethorpe. Fostering a relationship with the new city government will be just as challenging as it is with DeKalb, especially so if you are not one of the chosen. You are aware that only the chosen are allowed to join the formative committees BY has organized, right? Mr. PP, I know you are thirsty now, ready for that Cheerwine? How about a special hamburger?
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Ms., I believe you have mistaken my frankness for rudeness, sorry you were sensitive to my response. Nothing cryptic or secretive in my comments, they were in plain English and require no Ovaltine decoder ring. Plus, folks in Brookhaven do not like special hamburgers. However, there is nothing cryptic in my stating that I am voting NO at the end of this month! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM
OMG!!!! I had NO idea that Hamburgular was Jodi (I'm so emotional) Cobb. It just goes to show ya that FUDge is so deceiving. Long live the Queen of Brookhaven!
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Dr. Jeff, you are not going to believe this, but Mr. HamBurger is just as surprised as you are! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Hamburger: if you definitively know who keyed your car then report it to the authorities! Otherwise your FUDge filled comments may lead to court appearances by you for falsely accusing others. On a side note: violence and vandalism have NO place on the referendum. We already have too much FUDge so please don't add that into the mix.
Dr. Jeff July 14, 2012 at 11:05 PM
OMG!!!!! My night is complete..... Hamburgular and Dr Jeff both agree - on being surprised by Hamburgular's multiple personality (DID) disorder. Remarkable, simply remarkable. That's enough cheerwine for you!
HamBurger July 14, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Dr. Jeff, your manipulation of my questions and statements is reminiscent of many of the Brookhaven Yes robo calls, mailing pieces, and pro-city meetings. This is one of the reasons I do not feel comfortable with the folks promoting this new city and the secrecy surrounding their city formation meetings and their potential candidates for elected office. Hey, are you doing the copywriting for Brookhaven Yes? There is a familiarity between their communications and your posts . . . Comment as you like, it simply shows us what we may be in for with the cityhood organization you support if this new city vote passes. Man! Those are some really fine thin sliced onions!
Dr. Jeff July 15, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Hamburgular: The past two months I've read Patch articles & associated comments. A highly significant trend noted was your rude, obnoxious, unreasonable, paranoid-induced & just plain dumb comments. I've seen you attack many who don't hold your view. You've grasped at straws to paint folks as horrible, less than your equal, & utiilized a smear campaign to tie anyone you may despise to the Brookhaven YES campaign &/or board. You're a rabid attack dog & queen cobra spitting forth your hatred & disdain for anyone either associated with &/or contemplating voting YES. I repeat: I was a strong NO on cityhood until I witnessed your pathetic, consistent behavior & that of other NO folks like you. I've read comments where you've taken information out of context, totally ignored questions posed to you, threw tantrums stating how awful the YES folks are, & passively cried a river over it. You've practiced the 'art' of twisting others commentaries & then drenching them with a full batch of unsanitary hamburger grease. You've added NO value to the referendum other than assisting the YES campaign & voting. I'm NOT associated with YES/NO camps, don't attend the meetings, unaware of YES leaders, sign free, & only know about NO leaders. I realize your feelings are hurt & you're intent on attacking & labeling me as you've done countless others. Well, grow a pair & get over it!
HamBurger July 15, 2012 at 04:28 AM
My esteemed Dr. Jeff, please continue to project your personal, unsubstantiated thoughts and posts on me. I continue to be humorously amused at your manipulation of my comments for what you think is your personal benefit. Please continue your desperate attempts at insulting me as others find them entertaining as well. The last thing we need to concentrate on is the facts. Like, will the Vinson study be updated? Or, why is Rep. Mike Jacobs not continuing to push his new city? Or, why are only the “select” allowed to participate in BY formative city committees? In Brookhaven Yes tradition, it appears that you think the Brookhaven area residents are unable to think for themselves and believe your misinformation. A reader asks: Is Dr. Jeff a proctologist? Sorry, I can’t go there . . . However, Dr. Jeff does tend to act like an arse . . . Maybe I should just pass on the food commentary for this one . . .
Dr. Jeff July 15, 2012 at 06:58 PM
I've not committed the various acts you've attributed to me. Instead, you're projecting & not demonstrating accountability. So Hamburgular, please pass the built up gas you've held in for months. I am not, nor do I want to be, associated with any Brookhaven campaign. Although you may be, I am not! Instead, I'm a concerned long-standing resident of the area who will vote on 7/31. I believe Brookhaven residents think for themselves. So let them! I make informed decisions based on the information available to me. This includes a trending view of your comments, which quite frankly demonstrate concern about your current state of reality. I'll let your medication help you with that... Be compliant! Although I'm not a politician (it holds no interest for me), I clearly see that Hamburgular is a wannabe conspiracy theorist. Your questions: Why has the CVI study not been updated? Well, Burl has already done it to show a deficit & that's what the NO camp wanted to hear. Whether Burl's figures are accurate remains to be seen. HOWEVER, we now know the updated HOST figures provide significant funds & would: 1) eliminate Burl's perceived deficit & 2) provide a surplus @ $1mm level. Coupled with higher side CVI expenditures Brookhaven may have an even larger surplus. So, your often repeated, often answered question is once again answered... An update to Vinson is moot. As for your Jacobs & secret cmtees questions, watch the Da Vinci Code!
Wake up and smell the coffee July 23, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Bill your a piece of work
Barb Halaburt July 25, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Next Tuesday, the residents of “Brookhaven” have an opportunity to change the course of our community. For too long, Dekalb County has ignored and neglected this area of the county. Parks, like Murphy Candler, outwardly show neglect - Parent Associations have been forced to fill the void and maintain the bathrooms and the ball fields. Brookhaven Park, a jewel tucked away off busy Peachtree Street, is largely abandoned – the parking lot eroded and full of pot holes, the playground equipment a neglected and broken reject of the 1950’s. We have the opportunity to replace a neglectful government with a city government staffed with Brookhaven residents who live in and care about our community. City control means local, responsive and accountable control. It is time for the residents of Brookhaven to stand up and take back control of our community!
Eric H July 25, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Well said Barb, but you can vote today through Friday from 7 AM to 7PM at Chamblee City Hall, just in case things get hectic next Tuesday.
Jack of Kings July 25, 2012 at 07:50 PM
This move to have a city is not a sudden move. The county has had years and years of opportunity to show that Brookhaven is appreciated as a net contributor to the County. Ms. Jodi Cobb, Ms. Mesh and others who know how to get their representation have been very communicative with Dekalb County--and they could not get them to direct more attention to our area. When Dunwoody, Sandy Springs etc. became cities, it became apparent to all that they are doable and improve services. The residents of those new cities are pleased with the results.--Meanwhile, back at the ranch (Brookhaven), we continue to get ignored. We see money blown on a Soap Box Derby park. We see studies that continue to underscore the fact that Dekalb County government is a bloated organization that needs reform--but half measures were all we got. We see roads not being repaired. We see zoning issues popping up. We see curious (and cynical) changes in how services are being billed to new cities vs. unincorporated Dekalb right before the vote on July 31.--
Jack of Kings July 25, 2012 at 07:55 PM
It is not like Dekalb County has not had a chance to wake up and allocate some resources in our area. We continued to be ignored. Parks remained neglected. Paving projects were delayed. Zoning concerns in our area became a concern. Outsourcing solutions were delayed and/or put on the back burner. So, armed with information from the Guinea Pigs--Dunwoody and Sandy Springs--and because caution and observation was advisable-the Brookhaven incorporation movement began. IT has been a journey--not a sudden Eureka moment.

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