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Is Brookhaven a Haven Paradise for Developers?

Is Brookhaven a Haven Paradise for Developers?

Is Brookhaven a Haven Paradise for developers? 

It is a new city with no standards for whatever it wants to do.  Past history for this area of Dekalb Co. indicates that developers can develop anyway they want to. 

Remember the extremely large Mansions being built prior to the recession.  What keeps them from doing the same the same thing now? 

Look at has already been done. 

The development along Dresden Drive and the major development along Peachtree Street near Oglethorpe University.  Look at the development in the Lynwood area.  Was that a Haven for developers? 

What about Dresden Drive?  Maybe it is too poor and really needs grandstyle development.  All these small houses are too small and people in them too poor and they need development especially in Drew Valley, Ashford Park.

Many of us were certainly not pleased with Dekalb Co, but will we be pleased with "THE DEVELOPERS OF BROOKHAVEN"?

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Grubbyknees August 13, 2012 at 09:16 PM
If you wanted to live in a concrete jungle, you should have moved to Atlanta (city of). The thing that makes this part of the greater Atlanta area so desirable and wonderful to live in is the large tree canopy and lot-to-house ratio. Your developers will happily and gleefully mow everything down and put in high density housing and commercial. There goes the neighborhood - we too can be as dismal and lifeless as an asphalt & concrete prison yard. If we allow the wanton destruction of our trees and greenspace, you lose the very things that attracted us to this area.
Grubbyknees August 13, 2012 at 09:23 PM
John S - yeah your mcmansion probably raised the value of the small house next door. The one the owner now can't afford to pay the taxes on. Nice guy
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) August 13, 2012 at 09:40 PM
AMEN Grubbyknees
John S August 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Grubbyknees you clearly aren't educated. It is highly unlikely given the market that we are in that the county would reassess and increase anyone's property values. However the price a developer is willing to pay for the smaller houses would significantly increase as development continues. Grubbyknees and Mr. Mac are free to move to North Korea. That way the two of you can all live together among the Communist and anti Capitalist views of your new countrymen. That's the great thing about this country: a free market will always prevail over Marxists like yourselves.
don Gabacho August 13, 2012 at 10:45 PM
"...don Gabacho - my front door is on the Brookhaven Fields side of Dresden in Village Park and my children attend school in Ashford Park, hence, I was attracted to both and fully understand the difference..." Which, in either case, is not and never was "Brookhaven" no matter any sign invented to say "Brookhaven" as in "Brookhaven Fields." "Additionally, despite all of the negativity I see you post on this site on a daily basis, we are one big Brookhaven now and you may as well become used to that." Despite what you bought into, I am not buying into any city, its police force, tax accessors, etc.. I am buying nothing that has had anything to do with Mike Jacobs & Company and the course they took and expect for the future. I'm not buying into an illegal referendum being legal; and the precedent that, if allowed to, sets. It has nothing to do with DeKalb County or having no city at all. Nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. Or even signage. No matter the sign you bought. There is still time---until Dec. 29---to nullify this travesty not only for ourselves but also our children. Be positive.
don Gabacho August 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Grubbyknees you clearly aren't educated."---John S. He's obviously educated enough to have couth. Where's yours? " ...However the price a developer is willing to pay for the smaller houses would significantly increase as development continues..." Has it ever occurred to you that there are people who bought their homes to have homes? "Grubbyknees and Mr. Mac are free to move to North Korea. That way the two of you can all live together among the Communist and anti Capitalist views of your new countrymen. That's the great thing about this country: a free market will always prevail over Marxists like yourselves." Wanting and keeping a home must be "Communist and Marxist"? You sound like a realtor's gestapo.
don Gabacho August 13, 2012 at 11:13 PM
"You can't stop progress and its the newer homes that have turned AP into what it is today."---Kathie Coy Really? How? When I look out my window I see dogwoods, a huge peach tree, an even bigger fig tree, a row of 80 yards of ceders 60 to 70 high, all planted by my father and a good neighbor, under a canopy of eighty-year old pines; and beyond thick woods; birds galore. Now, come again, what did any McMansion do, to make "AP what it is today" except to detract from it? What do you see when you look out your window? Sit on your porch? Do you see even a good neighbor?
John S August 13, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Don- like Grubbyknees and Mr. Mac your comments are illogical and uneducated. Your analogy of comparing The Third Reich to any comment on this thread shows your "couth" and lack of education. You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a remark. Developers have nothing to do with people losing their houses. You are now trying to make obstructed views caused by tree removal the basis of your argument which has no validity or credibility. Bottom line is that as long as a man or woman adheres to the building codes and zoning regulations their isn't anything you can do about except complaining with your illogical arguments on this thread.
don Gabacho August 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM
"..."Your analogy of comparing The Third Reich to any comment..." Not "any comment." Yours: "Grubbyknees and Mr. Mac are free to move to North Korea. That way the two of you can all live together among the Communist and anti Capitalist views of your new countrymen. That's the great thing about this country: a free market will always prevail over Marxists like yourselves." "You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a remark."---John S OK. You got me there. I had said "a realtor's Gestapo." I should have said a realtor's Reich Minster for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.
John S August 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Another thing Don. Again this shows your bigotry and lack of "couth" by implying only good neighbors live in small houses. Lol I guess everyone that lives in a newer house according to Don has to be a bad person and neighbor. Bottom line is you have no argument to support your case against businessmen that abide by the laws, codes, and ordinances of their local municipalities to carry out their business and use their own properties to benefit the well being of themselves and the people around them. Again it's a free country do if you don't like it you are free to move to a rural area or a country that supports socialism and communism.
don Gabacho August 14, 2012 at 01:05 AM
You're not well.
John S August 14, 2012 at 02:07 AM
Maybe you can call the local "Gestapo" division of your local realty company and move out to a shack in the country where no one has to hear you whine anymore like the little baby that you are.
Grubbyknees August 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM
My uneducated self has to ask, have you even looked at the tax records? I have - for every house on my street and the surrounding block. Every time one of the large homes go in, the rest of the neighbor house valuations went up - significantly. I have nothing against large houses per se, just the destruction of the large trees that make my neighborhood so special. In fact, I renovated my older home, just like Kathie Coy mentions above. But I managed to do so without losing a single tree. My neighbor across the street mowed down everything on the lot. There are several larger homes around me that managed to built while leaving several of the large trees so obviously it can be done - one only has to care enough. I'm saddened and amazed that people who care about the environment and quality of life that comes from protecting it, you consider Communists or Marxists. By the way, they aren't the same thing so perhaps you need to read up a little, though I understand the point you're trying to make - even if it is in an insulting manner. Just because something is allowable by code or ordinances doesn't mean it is in the best interest of people or land use. It's funny to me that all the folks shouting yeah, wouldn't live somewhere like Town Brookhaven, but instead head for the homes with the trees and green space. Development need not mean mow down everything and plant concrete, but that's what is happening.
Eddie E. August 14, 2012 at 03:54 PM
RT, A place where we agree! When I moved to Ashford Park in 1977, the main reason was the mature trees. It has been quite disturbing to watch those same trees be turned into firewood (not flooring or furniture, just firewood) so that a poorly constructed box built on a 'basement knot' could be placed at the maximum legal dimension and a new bradford pear tree could be plopped in the front yard. Then people are shocked at the utilities and maintenance costs. Joni Mitchell probably summed it up best.
Thomas T Telford August 14, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Brookhaven Sux.
HamBurger August 14, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Mr. Thomas, there is going to be a fee for that! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Eddie E. August 14, 2012 at 05:35 PM
RT, The cracked pavement helps keep the speeds of the oversized SUV's down (too busy texting to pay attention to the speed limit and stop signs). Anyway, it won't matter, since Ashford Park voted OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST the 'city', I'm sure we will fall to the bottom of the necessary but unfunded improvements.
don Gabacho August 14, 2012 at 06:07 PM
"Motto"? What would you call 20,000 victims of a single snipe hunt?
don Gabacho August 14, 2012 at 06:14 PM
2:13 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 "Are you accusing honest, hard-working, voting citizens of committing a crime?"---Roger That Obviously not. Do you enjoy never getting anything straight?
Steve Walker August 14, 2012 at 06:17 PM
http://www.co.dekalb.ga.us/planning/pdf/environmental/treeRemoval.pdf County guide line to Home Owner Tree Removal.
Rick August 14, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Did you renovate an older home or build an entirely new home on top of it's foundation?
Grubbyknees August 14, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Rick - 'Did you renovate an older home or build an entirely new home on top of it's foundation?" I renovated an older home - moved and/or removed interior walls, etc. I have an older additional on the house, but the renovations we just did are on the original house. The problem with the guide for tree removal mentioned by Steve, is there is no enforcement. There are no "tree police". Codes, ordinances, and laws are only as good as the ability of officials to enforce them. Can Brookhaven write them to protect the trees - yes. Will they - not looking good.
Steve Walker August 14, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Dekalb County one has one arborist on staff to oversee its tree ordinance, so she only responds to complaints......
Crayola August 14, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Y'all ever see Gran Torino? Sad, Donald Garbonzo still does not understand. Just one of many posts. "don Gabacho 9:49 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012 "America should be a counrty where people can come with nothing, work hard, and become RICH."---Tom Should be the same for people already here too. For an American returning home like a refugee to his own country. Only to learn America is no longer a refuge for Americans."
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) August 14, 2012 at 09:31 PM
greenspacenotforsoapboxderby
Kathie " SOC" Coy August 16, 2012 at 03:39 PM
You ever try to get Dekalb's horticulturist on the phone... impossible. I have emailed and called about trees around AP in danger of the ax and they don't ever respond. It's a shame. Take a look at that big tree on Bragg that will be gone soon. I'm all for development but I want STRICT environmental codes.
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) August 16, 2012 at 08:06 PM
"Take a look at that big tree on Bragg that will be gone soon. I'm all for development but I want STRICT environmental codes." I agree with Kathie Coy ...
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) August 16, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Why are they tearing up the land next to the University Baptist Church? NO trees there!
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) August 23, 2012 at 02:57 PM
If you don't like trees go live on a desert, but don't make Brookhaven a desert.
JAMES H MCDONALD(JIM) September 01, 2012 at 10:17 PM
What prespective council members and mayoral canidates are for keeping the trees in Brookhaven as has been done in Dunwoody?

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