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Oglethorpe President Calling For Gun Control Legislation

An effort by Dr. Lawrence Schall, president of the Brookhaven-based university, has garnered the support of more than 160 college and university presidents in the U.S.


Oglethorpe University president Dr. Lawrence Schall is leading a coalition of college and university presidents that calls for gun control legislation in the wake of last week's .

In an open letter released late Wednesday afternoon, Schall was joined by more than 160 college and university presidents nationwide in ending the so-called gun show loophole, which they said allows for the purchase of guns from unlicensed sellers without a criminal background check; banning military-style semi-automatic assault weapons and high-capacity ammo magazines; and requiring consumer safety standards for all guns such as safety locks.

"Our country was devastated by the recent events in Connecticut, yet the murder rate by guns in this country has been at an unconscionable level for a very long time," Schall said. "Everyone now realizes it is time to do what we can to try to reverse this tragic trend. We all know the answer is not simple and that no single action will accomplish that goal, but that cannot be a reason for inaction.”

The website www.collegepresidentsforgunsafety.org is calling for more college and university presidents to join the effort.

Below is the text of the letter:

December 19, 2012

On the same day our nation learned in horror that 20 first graders and six educators were gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School, young people around the country were learning if they had been accepted to their favored colleges and universities. For many years now, our nation’s leaders have engaged in fevered debates on higher education, yet lawmakers shy away from taking action on one issue that prevents thousands of young people from living lives of promise, let alone realizing their college dreams. That issue is gun safety.

Among the world's 23 wealthiest countries, 80% of all gun deaths occur in the United States and 87% of all children killed with guns are killed here (Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery).  In 2010, 2,694 young people were killed by gunfire. 1,773 were victims of homicide; 67 were elementary school-age children. If those children and teens were alive today, they would fill 108 classrooms of 25 each.

We are college and university presidents. We are parents. We are Republicans, Democrats and Independents. We urge both our President and Congress to take action on gun control now. As a group, we do not oppose gun ownership. But, in many of our states, legislation has been introduced or passed that would allow gun possession on college campuses. We oppose such laws. We fully understand that reasonable gun safety legislation will not prevent every future murder. Identification and treatment of the mental health issues that lie beneath so many of the mass murders to which we increasingly bear witness must also be addressed.

As educators and parents, we come together to ask our elected representatives to act collectively on behalf of our children by enacting rational gun safety measures, including:

  • Ensuring the safety of our communities by opposing legislation allowing guns on our campuses and in our classrooms
  • Ending the gun show loophole, which allows for the purchase of guns from unlicensed sellers without a criminal background check
  • Reinstating the ban on military-style semi-automatic assault weapons along with high-capacity ammunition magazines
  • Requiring consumer safety standards for all guns, such as safety locks, access prevention laws, and regulations to identify, prevent and correct manufacturing defects

The time has long since passed for silence and inaction on the issue of reasonable and rational gun safety legislation. We hereby request that our nation’s policy leaders take thoughtful and urgent action to ensure that current and future generations may live and learn in a country free from the threat of gun violence.

Respectfully,

Lawrence M. Schall, Oglethorpe University (GA)
Elizabeth Kiss, Agnes Scott College (GA)

  • James Gozzo, Albany College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences (NY)
  • Jeff Abernathy, Alma College (MI)
  • Tom Flynn, Alvernia University (PA)
  • Mary Meehan, Alverno College (WI)
  • David Seyle, Andrew College (GA)
  • Jack P. Calareso, Anna Maria College (MA)
  • Steven Bahls, Augustana College (IL)
  • Rebecca Sherrick, Aurora University (IL)
  • Marjorie Hass, Austin College (TX)
  • Debora Spar, Barnard College (NY)
  • Clayton Spencer, Bates College (ME)
  • Elizabeth Coleman, Bennington College (VT)
  • Scott D. Miller, Bethany College (WV)
  • Charles Krulak, Birmingham Southern College (AL)
  • Richard A. Levao, Bloomfield College (NJ)
  • Barry Mills, Bowdoin College  (ME)
  • Ed Schrader, Brenau University (GA)
  • Kristin  King, Bryn Athyn College (PA)
  • John Bravman, Bucknell University (PA)
  • Nancy H. Blattner, Caldwell College (NJ)
  • Daniel Lowery, Calumet College of St. Joseph (IN)
  • Deborah C. Jackson, Cambridge College (MA)
  • James P. Loftus, Cardinal Stritch University (WI)
  • J. Randall  O’Brien, Carson-Newman College (TN)
  • John Roush, Centre College (KY)
  • Esther L. Barazzone, Chatham University (PA)
  • John Smarrelli Jr., Christian Brothers University (TN)
  • Pamela Brooks Gann, Claremont McKenna College (CA)
  • Carlton E.  Brown, Clark Atlanta University  (GA)
  • James  Phifer, Coe College (IA)
  • Robert Wyatt, Coker College (SC)
  • William D. Adams, Colby College (ME)
  • MaryAnn Baenninger, College of Saint Benedict (MN)
  • Francis Raftery, College of Saint Elizabeth (NJ)
  • Maryanne Stevens, College of Saint Mary (NE)
  • Maryanne Stevens, College of Saint Mary (NE)
  • Jill Tiefenthaler, Colorado College (CO)
  • Steve  Hayner, Columbia Theological Seminary (GA)
  • Charles Schlimpert, Concordia University (OR)
  • Leo I. Higdon, Jr., Connecticut College (CT)
  • Jonathan Brand, Cornell College (IA)
  • Dale T. Knobel, Denison University (OH)
  • Brian Casey, DePauw University (IN)
  • William G.  Durden, Dickinson College (PA)
  • Walter M. Kimbrough, Dillard University (LA)
  • Vivian A. Bull, Drew University (NJ)
  • Loren Swartzendruber, Eastern Mennonite University (VA)
  • Donald Eastman, Eckerd College (FL)
  • Lee Pelton, Emerson College (MA)
  • Rosalind Reichard, Emory & Henry College (VA)
  • J. David Arnold, Eureka College (IL)
  • Jennifer L. Braaten, Ferrum College (VA)
  • William T Abare, Flagler College  (FL)
  • Keith Taylor, Gannon University  (PA)
  • Janet Morgan Riggs, Gettysburg College (PA)
  • Barbara Vacarr, Goddard College  (VT)
  • Sanford J. Ungar, Goucher College (MD)
  • John Sellars, Graceland University (IA)
  • Paul J. Fonteyn, Green Mountain College (VT)
  • Joan Hinde Stewart, Hamilton College (NY)
  • Mark D. Gearan, Hobart and William Smith Colleges (NY)
  • Nancy Oliver Gray, Hollins University (VA)
  • Richard F. Wilson, Illinois Wesleyan University (IL)
  • Georgia Nugent, Kenyon College (OH)
  • Teresa L. Amott, Knox College (IL)
  • Candace Introcaso, La Roche College  (PA)
  • Daniel H. Weiss, Lafayette College (PA)
  • Michael T. Victor, Lake Erie College  (OH)
  • Stephen D. Schutt, Lake Forest College (IL)
  • Brian F. Linnane, Loyola University Maryland  (MD)
  • Richard L. Torgerson, Luther College (IA)
  • Brian Rosenberg, Macalester College (MN)
  • Jo Young Switzer, Manchester University (IN)
  • Brennan O'Donnell, Manhattan College (NY)
  • Judson R. Shaver, Marymount Manhattan College (NY)
  • James M.  Dennis, McKendree University (IL)
  • Tom Gamble, Mercyhurst University  (PA)
  • Jo  Allen, Meredith College (NC)
  • Ronald D. Liebowitz, Middlebury College (VT)
  • Alecia A. DeCoudreaux, Mills College (CA)
  • Rob Pearigen, Millsaps College (MS)
  • Michael Macdowell, Misericordia University (PA)
  • Mary Ellen Jukoski, Mitchell College (CT)
  • Stephen D. Immerman, Montserrat College of Art (MA)
  • Cecilia Fitzgibbon, Moore College of Art and Design (PA)
  • Robert Franklin, Morehouse College (GA)
  • David Wilson, Morgan State University (MD)
  • John Reynders, Morningside College (IA)
  • Lynn Pasquerella, Mount Holyoke College (MA)
  • Joseph N. Benoit, Mount Marty College  (SD)
  • Ann McElaney-Johnson, Mount St. Mary's College (CA)
  • David Schleich, National College of Natural Medicine (OR)
  • Frederik Ohles, Nebraska Wesleyan University  (NE)
  • Noreen M. Carrocci, Newman University (KS)
  • Michael A. Miller, Northland College (WI)
  • Andrew P. Roth, Notre Dame College (OH)
  • Jonathan Veitch, Occidental College (CA)
  • Kathy A. Krendl, Otterbein University (OH)
  • Sandra Harper, Our Lady of the Lake College (LA)
  • Thomas Manley, Pacific Northwest College of Art (OR)
  • Ezat Parnia, Pacific Oaks College & Children’s School (CA)
  • James Mellichamp, Piedmont College (GA)
  • Paul   Hennigan, Point Park University (PA)
  • David Oxtoby, Pomona College  (SC)
  • Claude C. Lilly, Presbyterian College (SC)
  • Robert A. Gervasi, Quincy University (IL)
  • Thomas Isherwood, Reinhardt University (GA)
  • William Troutt, Rhodes College (TN)
  • Jim Dlugos, Saint Joseph's College of Maine (ME)
  • Carol Ann Mooney, Saint Mary’s College (IN)
  • Dottie King, Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College (IN)
  • Eugene J.  Cornacchia, Saint Peter’s University (NJ)
  • Karen Lawrence, Sarah Lawrence College (NY)
  • Tim Summerlin, Schreiner University (TX)
  • Lori Bettison-Varga, Scripps College (CA)
  • Daniel J. Martin, Seattle Pacific University  (WA)
  • John McCardell, Sewanee: The University of the South (TN)
  • George Arnold, Silver Lake College of the Holy Family (WI)
  • Philip A. Glotzbach, Skidmore College (NY)
  • Carol   Christ, Smith College (MA)
  • Paul Mittman, Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine and Health Science (AZ)
  • W. Richard Merriman, Jr., Southwestern College (KS)
  • Colleen Perry Keith, Spartanburg Methodist College (SC)
  • Beverly Daniel Tatum, Spelman College (GA)
  • Richard P. Salmi, Spring Hill College (AL)
  • Richard B.  Flynn, Springfield College (MA)
  • Andrea Lee , St. Catherine University (MN)
  • Michael Peters, St. John’s College (NM)
  • William L.  Fox, St. Lawrence University (NY)
  • Joseph   Urgo, St. Mary's College of Maryland (MD)
  • Martha K. Shouldis, St. Vincent's College (CT)
  • Kevin J. Manning, Stevenson University (MD)
  • Mark Cregan, Stonehill College  (MA)
  • Jo Ellen Parker, Sweet Briar College (VA)
  • Judith Huntington, The College of New Rochelle (NY)
  • Grant H. Cornwell, The College of Wooster (OH)
  • Susan Scrimshaw, The Sage Colleges (NY)
  • R. Owen Williams, Transylvania University (KY)
  • James Jones, Trinity College (CT)
  • Dennis A. Ahlburg, Trinity University (TX)
  • Pat McGuire, Trinity Washington University (DC)
  • Stephen C. Ainlay, Union College (NY)
  • Neil Albert Salonen, University of Bridgeport (CT)
  • Ed Welch, University of Charleston (WV)
  • Thomas A.  Kazee, University of Evansville (IN)
  • Walter   Harrison, University of Hartford (CT)
  • Steven H. Kaplan, University of New Haven (CT)
  • E. William Beauchamp, University of Portland  (OR)
  • Ronald R. Thomas, University of Puget Sound (WA)
  • Pamela Trotman Reid, University of Saint Joseph (CT)
  • Gary A.  Dill, University of the Southwest  (NM)
  • Bobby Fong, Ursinus College (PA)
  • Patrick E. White, Wabash College (IN)
  • Nathan O. Hatch, Wake Forest University (NC)
  • Tori Haring-Smith, Washington & Jefferson College (PA)
  • Weymouth Spence, Washington Adventist University (MD)
  • Kenneth P. Ruscio, Washington and Lee University (VA)
  • Michael Roth, Wesleyan University (CT)
  • Richard H. Dorman, Westminster College (PA)
  • Ronald A. Crutcher, Wheaton College (MA)
  • George Bridges, Whitman College (WA)
  • Sharon Herzberger, Whittier College (CA)
  • David Sallee, William Jewell College (MO)
  • Barbara Mistick, Wilson College (PA)
  • Benjamin Dunlap, Wofford College (SC)
  • Luís María R. Calingo, Woodbury University (CA)
  • Norman C. Francis, Xavier University of Louisiana (LA)
Eddie E. December 20, 2012 at 01:11 PM
Hank, No reason to rush off now. Have to wait until cityhood property value slump recovers.
Eddie E. December 20, 2012 at 01:22 PM
There are at least two major components to the tragedy. One is the firearm. Unless some magical solution to remove all firearms could be agreed upon (far less than likely) the possibility for such a situation would still exist. The other major component is the very troubled youth. Consistent deterioration of our mental health care system since the '80s (when ronald-the-liar decided it would be better to de-institutionalize severely mentally impaired individuals). The sick people were turned out and many of the hospitals were closed, but the promised and necessary 'community based treatment options' never materialized. The main reason for no action is the extreme cost of providing adequate mental health care whether in institutions or 'community based' solutions. Now the nice people in the for-profit-health-insurance industry are in charge of 'treatment'. Thirty years ago, the average stay for an acute episode might be 30 days, today it averages 5 days. Since many conditions of mental impairment are chronic and may require years of treatment, how much better is a person supposed to get in 5 days? Blame the gun, if it makes you feel better. But, you must also blame the system that teed up the perfect storm in a young man with access to the gun.
Jordan Fox December 20, 2012 at 01:42 PM
We're talking about banning assault weapons, not all guns and ammo. If we do that and close the gun show loophole, lives will be saved and responsible gun owners can still own rifles, handguns, etc. I have yet to hear a good reason NOT to do this. I applaud the efforts of Oglethorpe University's President and the other college and university presidents that have signed on to this letter. Well done! Now everyone needs to call on their college or university president to also sign-on.
"E Pluribus Unum" December 20, 2012 at 02:26 PM
HamBurger...good morning. A quick follow up to our earlier exchange. My brother sent me a link to a NBC Today Show report of 7-23-12 by Jeff Rossen. In his report he shows how easy it is to obtain assault weapons and ammo on-line with no background check. In other words, folks with criminal records can obtain these style of weapons. He also set up a series of assault gun and ammo "sales" in mall parking lots with an exchange of money and no paper work asked. Finally, assault weapons are easily purchased and brought into the U.S. From our neighbors to the North. In short, if someone wants an assault weapon, they can be purchased rather easily.
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Mr. EPU, tinkering with the Second amendment is just the start that can lead to sweeping changes like in Australia. As for militias, they are very much alive in the form of the National Guard and continue to complement the Federal military branches. http://tinyurl.com/6gr2xtx http://tinyurl.com/d2ens2h Special hamburger while you read a little history?
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 02:53 PM
Mr. EPU, clearly we will continue to disagree on this issue. America does not have exclusivity on regular mass murders. China, for one example, is having a problem with school children being murdered by unstable knife/cleaver/hammer wielding men. http://tinyurl.com/d24e28o Freelance writer Thomas R. Eddlam has an interesting article on the subject. Pay attention to the Professor John R. Lott quote in the center of the article. Then go do some research on the crime in England and Australia. http://tinyurl.com/d4xlroa I am not going to change your opinion, but you owe it to yourself to do some research. Please pass the yellow mustard!
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Mr. Hank, you may require an intervention . . . Please pass the yellow mustard!
I must be dreaming December 20, 2012 at 03:23 PM
I can't believe I am saying this but the Burger is 100% right. The "militia" the media is calling the equivalent of the state police is/was nothing of the sort. The militia is/was ordinary, law abiding citizens who owned their own firearms- military style or not. It was/ always separate and distinct from the power of the federal govt. The reason it is in the first clause of the second amendment was to inform the logic as to why individual rights to be armed was being protected. It is ignorant to mindlessly repeat "you don't need an assault rifle to hunt" (Ironiclly I took my first deer with a mini14 "assault rifle" ). Ask the dead thousands from Tianamen square how Billy clubs and bullhorns fared when they were trying to assert their "first amendment " rights. Timothy McV...h in an instant killed nearly 200 people ,dozens being children in a day care center. He did it quitecsimply with fertilizer, diesel fuel , and an easy to rent uHaul truck. By today's anti gun logic we should be banning diesel, fertilizer, and truck rental. Perhaps a good way to bring anti and pro- city people together could be found through a Brookhaven militia. What do you say Burgs?
John McGrew December 20, 2012 at 03:37 PM
"The Second Amendment is not longer relevant..." If that is the case, then so are the 1st and 4th. We now know that Adam Lanza was a fan of certain very violent video games. Endless hours with those certainly didn't improve his mental health. And why stop there? The vast majority of television and film programming are basically psychic pollution. Since we're going to be re-working the Constitution in the name of the betterment and safety and society, perhaps it's time to address that as well. Who knows? Perhaps then Adam wouldn't have wanted to kill anyone at all. And then there was his behavior long before his implosion. Perhaps if there had been "official" intervention then this would never have happened? Of course, most civil libertarians I know would cringe at that notion. If we're going to toss the 2nd Amendment, why should the 1st and 4th be sacrosanct?
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Folks bent on destruction will always find a way. In 1927 Andrew Kehoe chose to use explosives to kill his forty-five victims. Fortunately, 504 pounds of explosives did not ignite or the death toll would have been greater. http://tinyurl.com/cwcqrz4 http://tinyurl.com/p28mb Please pass the yellow mustard!
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 04:23 PM
“In America, it’s considered a right to carry a gun, but in Israel, it’s considered both right and a privilege.” http://tinyurl.com/bnfasa2 A very interesting article about gun ownership in Israel. I do not agree with a limit on ownership, but coupling training with a carry permit or ownership would be a good thing, something not required in Georgia or many states. For those interested in refining state side gun laws, you may find this article of interest: http://tinyurl.com/ndobl You will note that in Ireland during the “Troubles” after gun laws were changed in 1972 mayhem makers relied more heavily on bombs. Japan has had restrictive gun laws since the 1700’s. If that happened in America we would now be speaking English instead of American. Reading the various laws and looking at country history, there appears to be a common thread of governmental control instead of a culture of responsibility. Please, don’t take away my yellow mustard!
HamBurger December 20, 2012 at 05:38 PM
I cannot believe I am going to say this, but maybe we should ban . . . HAMBURGERS!!! http://tinyurl.com/ct83eyw
TomMiller1 December 20, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Funny how so few of the comments were on the letter by the OU judge. Rather - this group went off by typing up their own view, agenda, etc. you guys have trouble reading, so here is part of his letter: We are Republicans, Democrats and Independents. We urge both our President and Congress to take action on gun control now. As a group, ***********we do not oppose gun ownership************ •Reinstating the ban on military-style semi-automatic assault weapons along with high-capacity ammunition magazines The murder of little kids is the game changer here. Live with that the rest of your life - and be prepared for a discussion of gun legislation that has evolved b/c of spill innocent blood of 7 year olds.
"E Pluribus Unum" December 20, 2012 at 07:47 PM
TomMiller1, yes, I truly believe Newtown is a game changer. It's also a game changer when so many who had earlier vilified HamBurger for his thoughtful views on the new city...now agree with him. HamBurger, maybe the world is ending tomorrow!
Eddie E. December 20, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Tom, Without improvement to the Mental Health system, firearm restrictions will just change the methods used by the deranged to accomplish their mayhem. Pretending that the severely disturbed are doing fine on their own does not serve the disturbed individual or the society.
Jordan Fox December 20, 2012 at 08:26 PM
A conservative case for an assault weapons ban: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-burns-assault-weapons-ban-20121220,0,6774314.story
Roger That December 21, 2012 at 06:39 PM
It's a long boring read. He's for confiscation. "So what's the alternative? Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it."
Al December 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM
"Mr. EPU, there were some very smart folks that discussed, argued, and wrote the United States Constitution. That includes the Second Amendment:" Those smart folks lived in a completely different time period. If they saw common citizens today with semi-automatic weapons they would call us crazy. This whole article is about over 160 very smart folks who are against todays lax gun laws. The Second Amendment was also written before the War of 1812 aka Round Two vs. England. Today we are bordered by two giant oceans, Canada, and Mexico. Nobody is going to invade the US. With the three branches of government there isn't going to be any crazy leaders of the country that will be need to be ousted. The NRA appears very similar to big tobacco companies. Go learn how to think for yourself.
HamBurger December 23, 2012 at 01:56 AM
Mr. Al, if you believe the United States Constitution has reached the end of its useful life and needs to be eliminated, just say it. Now what would you like to replace it with? Is it a sad day when folks clearly have no understanding of our country and its Constitution? Please pass the yellow mustard!
"E Pluribus Unum" December 23, 2012 at 12:14 PM
HamBurger...folks are not saying guns should be banned at all. What I see developing is a need to interpret the Second Amendment for 2013 and beyond and not by the language and point of view of a new America firing one shot muskets. This type of healthy discussion and review has never occurred with the Second Amendment since 1790. Finally, the allegation that reviewing the Second Amendment is somehow undermining our Constitution is not true. That stretch only deflects the focus of the needed discussion to be had. A sincere question HamBurger...what gun reform (not ban) do you propose?
"E Pluribus Unum" December 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM
HamBurger, the intent with my question is to discover where are common ground points between various POVs on the topic. Thank you
John McGrew December 23, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Why stop there? If you are correct, then most of the Amendments should be re-interpreted for 2013. Like most of the the other mass murderers of the last decade, we know that Adam Lanza was a fan of very violent video games. Endless hours with those certainly don't improve his mental health of the already unbalanced. And why stop there? The vast majority of television and film programming are basically psychic pollution. Since we're going to be re-working the Constitution in the name of the betterment and safety and society, perhaps it's time to address that as well. Who knows? Perhaps if people like Adam only had access to the Care Bears, they wouldn't want to kill anyone at all. Of course, we'll have to revamp the 1st Amendment before this can be addressed. And then there's the fact that most of these modern mass killers show obvious signs well before their rampages. Perhaps if there had been "official" monitoring and intervention beforehand, then these events would never have happened. Of course, the 4th Amendment will have to be adjusted and most civil libertarians I know would cringe at that notion.
John McGrew December 23, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Across the nation, the trend is towards legalization of drugs, as more people come to the conclusion that "the war on drugs", the reality where criminals have become empowered while otherwise honest citizens become criminals, has been a complete disaster. And we also now accept the notion that even when illegal, that we could keep drugs out of people's hands was farcical. So we should legalize drugs because people were going to acquire and use them anyway, but at the same time we'll make guns illegal? That's highly incongruent with what you are suggesting. Besides, the last thing that mentally unbalanced people need are hallucinogenics. If we're going to toss the 2nd Amendment, why should the 1st and 4th be sacrosanct?
HamBurger December 23, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Mr. EPU, this is an issue that will be made more complex than necessary because folks do not understand our Constitution and some have little respect for it. Plus, folks are not focusing on the true problems at hand. However, voiding the rights of law abiding citizens should not be a part of the discussion. There are some strong views here between us and we just may have to agree to disagree. Please pass the yellow mustard!
dbeall December 28, 2012 at 02:35 AM
It is likely that you wouldn't know an "assault rifle" if it served you a sandwich. I'm guessing your definition of "assault rifle" is simply "scary looking." That being said, when you argue that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to these weapons and use the "militia" argument, I can tell you that the SCOTUS has already held that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to self defense; not a militia's right to self defense. I'll also argue that each of the other amendments in the Bill of Rights applies to the individual. Why would the Second not also apply to the individual? Now when you argue that the fact that single shot muskets were being used when the Second Amendment was passed and therefore it does not apply to modern weapons, I could say that by that same logic, the Founding Fathers didn't know that email, texting, and social media would one day exist, so how could the First Amendment apply to those? It's the same convoluted logic. The Second Amendment applies to those weapons and was absolutely designed to arm the citizenry at the same level as the government; therefore protecting the citizenry from a tyrannical and out of control government; much like what we have today.
John McGrew December 28, 2012 at 05:35 PM
@dbeall, that SCOTUS opinion could easily change with only a couple of appointments , especially now considering that the court now openly considers "international" trends when contemplating American Constitutional issues.
don Gabacho December 31, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Perhaps Mr. Schall should visit Mexico and learn a thing or two. Where only the police have guns; and the criminals have become the police.
don Gabacho December 31, 2012 at 06:25 PM
"We now know that Adam Lanza was a fan of certain very violent video games."---John McGrew Made popular by footage of the US's own wars. Isn't it something? That most ardent officials seeking to disarm the American people, are the same officials who wage those wars? Even run guns to Mexico? Oh? But that was a "botch job" according to the WH; and thus the media. "We now know that Adam Lanza..." Actually we don't know anything about him. What we do know is what the WH and media want us to think we know. Ex: Two Saturday's ago (ABC's John Muir) the weapon used for the killings mysteriously changing from two pistols to an "assault rifle" previously reported by the town's police chief to have been found unused in the trunk of the suspect's parked car. But that would be the WH "politicizing" the tragedy. Wouldn't it?
elfiii January 04, 2013 at 04:17 PM
For all you anti gun folks - please define the term "assault weapon".
don Gabacho January 09, 2013 at 07:16 PM
"Now, I want to be clear. No one is saying that citizens should be prevented from gun ownership."---EPU Essentially what they are saying is the mentally ill should be denied. "Mentally ill," as decided by those who, for only one example, run guns to Mexico.

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