Major Cityhood Mailing; New Precinct Put On Hold

A wrapup of news and notes in the debate on Brookhaven cityhood.

July 2 marks 28 days until Brookhaven decides whether or not to incorporate, and cityhood proponents and opponents both engaged in major mass mailings over the weekend.

Many Brookhaven residents were greeted with fliers over the week both advocating and opposing municipalization.

Your editor received one anti-cityhood mailer, and two pro-city fliers this past Saturday.

Patch wants to know: did you receive these mailers over the weekend? If so, did they sway your opinion, one way or the other?


In the meantime, the Reporter Newspapers published an article on Sunday regarding an item Patch readers have been discussing for weeks: the fact that DeKalb County is waiting to see if cityhood passes before deciding on a new location for its North Precinct.

not one of 60 July 03, 2012 at 01:17 AM
not one of 60 July 03, 2012 at 01:21 AM
Wish I could walk or bike, but you would need safe adequate routes segregated from fast traveling traffic.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 01:55 AM
Dr. Jeff, Dunwoody incorporation COST ALL OF DEKALB by confiscating commercial property. I have no reason to ever cross 285 ending up in Dunwoody again.
Danny Marshall July 03, 2012 at 01:56 AM
Gotta love that someone wasted a few trees printing a pseudo-policitcal flier married with a few informative articles, like how to stay cool in the heat, coverage of the John Edwards trial and, oh by the way, 85 references to No City Brookhaven. Must have cut Ashford Neighbors a good deal for buying up so many advertising spots, Costco style.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Max, I was talking with an old friend who lives in Dunwoody today. He was not a cityhood supporter, but he was pleased with the first 'council'. Then when they were more interested in doing what they were supposed to and were ousted by the developer set, he realized clearly why he had been opposed. By the way, as he tells it, he never sees the Police, so I hope he never needs them. They will probably be busy at Perimeter Mall covering petty thefts.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Max, At least your last line makes sense 'do nothing at all'.... After all NO MEANS NO!
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Max, I live 4 blocks from the new precinct station that I hope to see built when the Opposed City goes down to a dismal defeat. Now, answer my question, WHO OWNS THE POLICE SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT IN DUNWOODY? I've read some of the proposals for the first contract and I can tell you, it ain't any city.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 02:02 AM
But, did she read from cards or did she state it from memory?
HDM July 03, 2012 at 02:05 AM
Thank you for bringing your unique perspective as a former Dunwoody dissenter to our attention, Max
HDM July 03, 2012 at 02:10 AM
Bill just has sore feelings that his area wasn't able to feasibly be included within Brookhaven.
HamBurger July 03, 2012 at 02:16 AM
Mr. Eddie, DPD is very busy with the hot spots. That is exactly why the chief wants to add to his staff today what the hoped for budget in 2017 will allow . . . But he has to wait five years for what today demands . . . Please pass the yellow mustard!
Max July 03, 2012 at 02:24 AM
I live in DeKalb and I have a vested interest in this matter, so drop the nonsense and get busy 'splaining why those apartments got built. How many of them are designated as 'affordable'?
HamBurger July 03, 2012 at 02:37 AM
Mr. Max, verbal masturbate all you like, you still have not answered my repeated question as to why a Dunwoody resident that is immersed in Dunwoody politics is involving himself in the Brookhaven cityhood movement. I think the small amount of development at Ashford & Johnson Ferry is great. You are aware that all the apartments you refer to are being built by the DeKalb Housing Authority, right? Apparently, you have an extreme hatred for DeKalb County. You are not interested in making DeKalb government better; you are intent on destroying DeKalb. And, I am selfserving? Please pass the yellow mustard!
Max July 03, 2012 at 02:39 AM
And finally, I was not a dunwoody dissenter in as much as I truly want to see DeKalb re-establish itself as a premier place to live, work, and play. Until we, as DeKalb citizens get our representatives to 'do better' incorporation will continue. I met so many wonderful, impressive, civic leaders, Paul DeFriese, Gil Turman, who want to see DeKalb improve. We still do.
Max July 03, 2012 at 02:42 AM
Hamburger, Do I lack clarity? Do you still not understand? Please rinse, wash, repeat, it's all you are good at.
not one of 60 July 03, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Dcpd s corrupt. I feel sorry for the good officers, I would never call thm nor trust them. Gun owner. Guard dog onwer. Dekalb corrupt police avoider.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Max, That's a hoot. austin scott and 'prudence' in the same sentence. If there was ever a more self-serving sellout politician (with the possible exception of the mis-Representative of the 80th District) I don't know who it is. I guess it is good for him he has a sufficient number of low-information voters that don't realize he exemplifies the 'Do Nothing Congress'. There should be a blog drinking game for such boners!
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 03:57 AM
Max, Whatever apartments you are whining about has nothing to do with answering the question.... WHO OWNS ALL THE DUNWOODY POLICE DEPARTMENT? Is it the 'city' (that owns nothing) or the 'prime contractor' that is required by the contract to OWN EVERYTHING? In looking, it appears you are referring to some DHA apartments. What is it you have against people who clearly need help? Are you an ayn rand follower or just a self-absorbed miscreant?
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 03:58 AM
You left out sad little person with tinfoil taped to the windows.
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Max, Stan, Dean, Were you guys part of the super-secret C4ND donors group? Inquiring minds want to know.
HDM July 03, 2012 at 12:33 PM
I was not. Your repeated insinuations of some sort of conspiracy do you a disservice Eddie, it has to be made up unless you really do wear a tinfoil hat?
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 02:29 PM
Dean, Thanks, that's one down. I just want to know who is responsible for generating this huge waste of time and energy. Those of us working to stop this fiasco will be legally reported and verified, while those who decided 'what was best for us' will remain forever secret. Doesn't that seem the slightest bit odd to you?
Eric H July 03, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Max I agree with your thoughts on cityhood and your insights. Its especially true that Dunwoody becoming a city has taken out much of the risk. The development at Johnson Ferry however is another story, that used to be Section 8 housing, i knew several kids who lived there and went to Chamblee High - it was housing that when eliminated left some good families with less optimal housing choices. But be that as it may it was the housing authority switching to vouchers and that led to the redevelopment of this property. It has several components including senior housing, Apartments are the one area in the region with high occupancy rates in part due to people unable to get financing or people who don't want to buy a home. Eddie your friend thinks the new council is more developer friendly? You know the business/developer backed mayor lost and a council person got voted out because of his support of the Bonds. And your comment about the Police not working for the City and the fact that the Police cars will be leased (a common practice)? The CVI explains why they don't privatize police services. Interesting how much misinformation is out there. Finally what's wrong with DeKalb's current precinct that they have at a dramatically low or free rent? DeKalb wants to have 2 precincts north of 85?
Eddie E. July 03, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Could it be (as you would probably know if you had been paying attention) that it is merely REPLACING County Owned Special Needs Units that had been there for a generation? What do you have against everyone else out there in the world?
Max July 03, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Eddie, You are bowing up for the wrong reasons! I have never paid one red cent to any incorporation cause. I am an activist for this cause because I actually wish to see DeKalb improve operations and financial controls. The trend toward incorporation is working, hiccups and all. This ought to be a very clear signal to our hardworking reps in Decatur, and the entire DeKalb Delegation to begin serious discussions toward 'consensus' on governance issues common to ALL DeKalb.
Eric H July 03, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Yes that's the project I was speaking about, and here's a recent article from the Patch. I know the neighborhoods were actively involved with the DeKalb Housing Authorities plan to redevelop their property and much of it is senior housing. I don't know the exact numbers of post development rental units vs pre development rental units. regarding apartments in general, I was just pointing out the effect tight lending has had on our housing demand. Interestingly what many point out are the numerous empty condos that aren't much different from the new apartment towers going up in Midtown. Unfotunately condo covenants or if applicable FHA rules prohibit renting out more than 30% of the condos. But this is a Brookhaven thread - so regarding the Police Precinct, I thought building the new precinct on Clairmont when DeKalb still has the North Precinct across from the perimeter mall was not a great use of scarce funds. I was told the covenant gives this property only to the County Police and they have it for free or for very reduced rent.
Eric H July 03, 2012 at 11:51 PM
forgot to put the link up. http://brookhaven.patch.com/articles/phase-iii-of-the-johnson-ferry-east-redevelopment-project-is-underway
Dr. Jeff July 06, 2012 at 01:43 PM
Well Eddie, If I follow your logic about never wanting to cross over 285 again, then I'll send my best wishes as you move out of DeKalb county due to its confiscation of our bond money and no new library. Happy trails bud!
Dr. Jeff July 06, 2012 at 01:59 PM
Hamburgular, Your delicacies have gnats, flies, and maggots all over them... shut your operations down or DKPD's finest will be over to shut ya down. And since you're so great asking the same old obnoxious questions over and over again to cast red herrings into the sea... how about answering why our bond money never built a new library but instead was confiscated and used to cover operations for a mis-managed bloated govt.
Dr. Jeff July 06, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Eddie: Stop with the insulting comments about good people. Those of us in the 80th district are highly professional, hard working, charitable, accountable, intelligent & sick of your silly insulting comments. Just because your momma has to call you home to your room in the retirement village doesn't mean we'll call you the village idiot... even though you are one!


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