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So About Those Bulldozers On Dresden Drive ...

You've been wondering what's been going on, and here's the answer.


Bulldozing began this week on a new Hines Co. apartment complex at the intersection of Dresden and Ellijay drives.

According to ABetterBrookhaven, Hines Co. has filed for a permit to build 215 high-end apartments on the site. The plan calls for a four-story building with a mix of one and two bedroom units renting for $1,000-$1,500 per month.

Check out the video for a look at the action on Friday morning.

Mary La Pannea July 20, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Love 'em or hate 'em, apartment residential density loads play havoc on education and transportation infrastructure. Gotta wonder "Why now, Why Brookhaven,' as at least two new apartment projects are taking place. Apartment developers fear tougher building codes enacted by a City and are being proactive, in my opinion. City of Chamblee zoning code requires 'durable construction' for complexes greater than three stories, which means steel and concrete instead of 'stick-built' or wooden buildings. Next, look for new billboards, as those companies will try hard to get their products done prior to incorporation. Cities offer communities greater control on development. That fact impacts education and transportation through stringent zoning, which can dramatically increase the cost of construction. Increasing quality subsequently decreases the quantity of apartments. Nothing against apartment residents, PERIOD. Big issue with resource consumption.
Rick July 20, 2012 at 04:19 PM
The current project has been on the drawing board far longer than cityhood has been under consideration.
John McCay July 20, 2012 at 06:56 PM
While I HATE to see the beautiful old trees gone, the renderings I've seen of this development look very nice. Hines is a well respected, high quality developer - this won't be more "crap" like we have seen so much of lately in the metro. I like the fact that parking is hidden in the center of the complex. Certainly an improvement over the rotten shacks it is replacing.
Eric H July 20, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Actually its people who play havoc on "education and transportation infrastructure" not apartments. And higher density certainly seems to magnify the over crowding. But if you think about it, apartments, especially if they are next to MARTA rail are more environmentally friendly. And frankly they tend to have less kids than single family neighborhoods so on a purely population basis 1000 people in single family homes require more roads and have more children going to the schools. I do agree that good building standards are needed so you don't have rundown buildings 10 or 20 years down the road, that we need to budget and plan for increased population and that you don't want to high a concentration of one type of housing stock/type. But they are projecting 3 million new people coming into the 20 county metro region. Apartments will be a component of that and keeping them near the MARTA stations makes sense. As to the local schools the fact they are 1 and 2 bedrooms probably means there won't be a lot of kids. And they may even be priced out of the range of college students. May get some airline attendants, they like to live near the train stations. Definitely some of those millennials I've been hearing so much about lately because of the MARTA access and the restaurants nearby.
Eric H July 20, 2012 at 09:19 PM
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/06/defense-congestion/2118/# Fortunately for our cities and their economies, urban environments are precisely what is sought by the millennial generation. 88 percent of millennials report that they would prefer to live in urban environments, and they are already driving less and riding transit more than their Gen X and boomer counterparts. Indeed, many millennials view driving as a vice, with 55 percent indicating that they have made a deliberate effort to reduce the amount of driving that they do. They are also leading a surge in cycling in cities like Seattle, Minneapolis, Denver, and Washington, D.C., all of which have seen their share of bike commuting double over the last decade. These trends are of great concern to the auto industry.
Chili Burger July 21, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Looks like thousands more apartments in Brookaven is what No City has planned.
Mary La Pannea July 21, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Agreed, residential density means more people. Transit Oriented Development is fine by me, as long as the requirement for 'affordable housing' is ELIMINATED. Especially now, with so many homes available for so little. The new apartment discussion gets ugly when 'affordable housing,' issues are interjected, because those issues often lead discussion down the rabbit hole of incivility. Fear not! Most millennials I know want an intown high rise with a rooftop bar and pool and don't need any financial help.
Steve Walker July 21, 2012 at 04:05 PM
I went to the community meeting Hines held last winter for this development and they stated that these will NOT be kid friendly units but built for professional career oriented folks. I also liked the center parking as well as the under ground cistern or holding tank they are utilizing for run-off.
Jack of Kings July 21, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Mr. Konas of NO CITY (and Post Properties), Ms. Jodi Cobb of NO City (and long time political activist in Dekalb in the Democratic Party) and major NO CITY contributors residing in Historic Brookhaven, Tom Cousins (of Cousins Properties fame) and John Imlay (noted local successful venture capitalist and investor) all have relationships in the local political machines around Atlanta. Suffice it to say that this financial activism is not without expected influence in the status quo. Fostering symbiotic relationships is, unfortunately, the norm in politics today. But shaking up the norm is a form of creative destruction" that takes long held power out of the hands of the comfortably inept and gives a chance to those that could do better--but just do nto have the political power.
Eric H July 21, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Rental rates of 1,000 to 1,500 for only one or two bedrooms sounds pretty pricey. There seems to be millenials in the Apartments behind the Mellow Mushroom and Pub 101. I don't think they can all afford to live in midtown in a highrise with a rooftop bar and pool, though that does sound like a fun way to live if you are a young adult.
Blah, Blah, Blah July 21, 2012 at 04:54 PM
We never knew that there was a community meeting for Hines. Where was it posted? Please don't say on that little blue sign with the tiny handwriting that's near the house that they tore down. I've said this before in previous discussions, look what happened to Atlantic Station. It's not the clientele that we want in Brookhaven. Those people that can't afford these apartments will find a way. They always do.
Steve Walker July 21, 2012 at 05:14 PM
It was held at the University Baptist Church. I think I found about it via the Patch. It was not well attended........maybe about 15-20 people at the most....I think one reason maybe that it wasn't so well attended was that no zoning change was required and the County had already approved their plans so really it was a done deal. The Hines people had a lot of their folks there and did take note of some of the wants by the attendees and seemed to be receptive of them, but who knows if they will take heed with any of them.
Mary La Pannea July 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM
A city would know. "...but who knows if they will take heed with any of them." Locally controlled zoning gives residents a guarantee that their input on how to develop their City is followed. Citizens can enact local zoning to affect meeting times, notice size and frequency, all of which keep YOU informed.
Jack of Kings July 22, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Very local representation in zoning will reflect the local's concerns and desires. Local control is not in Decatur. A City of Brookhaven is local control.
Scott Phillips July 22, 2012 at 02:48 PM
That is so very true. I wanted to attend several of the zoning meetings regarding the late night pour applications for the establishments on Clairmont Road. Since the meetings are in Decatur and usually late afternoon, my schedule never allowed it. Sitting in the traffic on North Druid Hills Road (or more aptly “North Druid Hills Parking Lot”) at rush hour trying to get to Decatur is just unreasonable especially when compared to voicing our opinions and concerns at a hearing/meeting held anyplace within the footprint of the proposed city.

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