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Visions For Vacancies: Could Brookhaven Plaza Become City Hall?

Maybe, if next week's cityhood vote passes.


Brookhaven Plaza has been the site of a Harris Teeter, a Kroger, and an antiques store. A retailer called Mattress Firm is in the site of the old Blockbuster, while Rite Aid (formerly Eckerd), Nail Spa and Terra Grille have been in the location for a while.

But if cityhood is approved by voters on July 31, could Brookhaven Plaza become the city of Brookhaven city hall?

J. Max Davis, chairman of BrookhavenYES, alluded to the fact that Brookhaven Plaza could be a likely home for a new city hall .

Regardless of whether cityhood passes, what do you think could go into this highly visible, prime piece of commercial real estate along Peachtree Road?

Truth before Power July 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM
BrookhavenFacts.com document collusion between County gov't and city opponents to deny citizens the right to choose. Today we witness full scale efforts by the County to influence the cityhood vote. We see evidence the Oglethorpe discussion being a fundraising event for the opposition. No wonder Mr. Konass literally popped out of his chair when someone mentioned collusion to sway voter opinion was mentioned. This is irrefutable evidence that YOUr own government is paying to sway your vote!
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Not really, but when you don't have anything left, make a mountain out of a molehill. Will your campaign company give you a refund and/or do your corporate funders EXPECT a refund?
Shannon July 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I look forward to the opening of our city hall and think this location would be perfect!
Truth before Power July 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Are you 'besties' with RIGHT PATH STRATEGIC AFFAIRS, LLC?
HamBurger July 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Inquiries were made as to the accuracy of Brookhaven Yes’s Police Flyer. Remember, Brookhaven Yes never tells the rest of the story. Here is the response to the misinformation being spread by Brookhaven Yes: I’m looking at these watch lists, and let me just share with you a few things that I notice… 1. On one of the watch lists, there are four units under the heading “SPECIAL” that are blacked out. These units were assigned to a special detail and were very much available to handle calls/address issues in the proposed footprint of Brookhaven. As a matter of fact, the special detail itself was more than likely being conducted within the Brookhaven area to address a prevalent issue at the time. Cheerwine and a special hamburger?
HamBurger July 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM
2. In looking at the map of our territories, and the units assigned to each territory, think of that as a preliminary template. As the shift progresses and evolves, and different situations and needs arise, we have a proven system in place to move assets to where they are needed. For instance; it is true enough that the majority of our map of our 180’s territories is outside the proposed footprint for Brookhaven, but, if we have a priority call come out in “the footprint”, and we have a 180 unit assigned to something that can wait, or not assigned at all, the call in the footprint is not just going to sit there until one of the 160, 170, or 190 cars is available. To say that a 180 unit is not available to handle calls/address issues in the footprint is a fallacy. I can tell you that I have worked many a shift where I spent very little time in my assigned territory, because there was a greater need elsewhere. 3. Of the watch lists chosen to be presented, three of the four are for the same date. So we are looking at “two days in the life” of North Precinct. One of the things you do not see is that we have a Robbery Task Force that works a swing shift and predominantly works the Brookhaven area. That provides for an additional Lieutenant, Sergeant, and a number of officers right there. This task force is placed on a separate watch list. Please pass the yellow mustard!
HamBurger July 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM
4. There are officers shown to be on different types of leave, to include sick (FMLA included) and military. Having personnel on leave is a fact of life for any police department/precinct. An important point to consider right now is the scheduling plan that Major Ellison has proposed to the Uniform Division Chief. This plan is a 12 hour plan that is used by departments like Dunwoody and Chamblee. This plan maximizes man power and would put 17 line officers, 2 Sergeants and 2 Lieutenants on the road from 6 am to 6 pm and 6 pm to 6 am. These would be the numbers before allowing for leave time and training time. This plan greatly increases the number of officers on patrol and better serves our mission to reduce crime and provide better police services. May I have some more of those thin sliced onions?
Chris July 27, 2012 at 02:02 PM
I agree Shannon: a great spot for the new City of Brookhaven City Hall. And likely available for a good price. Big enough to allow a gathering of many City of Brookhaven residents, including Eddie and Hamburger. All will be welcome!
Jack of Kings July 27, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Subleasing this space would be a bargain for the new city. Kroger actually holds the lease and they are VERY motivated to get it leased. I believe there is still more than 7 years on the original lease.
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Don't hold your breath, the results could be harmful!
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Wow what a deal. Luckily, the 'rental city' will soon only be a bad memory.
John Q Public July 27, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Mr.(s) Hamburger, May I suggest you try to at least garnish your hamburgers with some fresh lettuce and tomato (for health reasons is all), and follow it up with a tall glass of milk. Now on to the point: the other day you eluded to the disclosures for BrookhavenYes and Brookhaven Ballot Committee. I found this blog yesterday that spells it out pretty clearly and I did some of my own research and it jives. It has become obvious to me that this is one giant new business pitch for the contributors who want the contracts to build and run the city. http://theotherbrookhaven.blogspot.com/
Jack of Kings July 27, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Eddie E.--As always,thank you for your contribution to the discussion. I find 2% of your posts relevant and informative. So, thanks for your participation. What did you think about that mailer from your crew, NoCity Brookhaven? Three old cities are cited as going bankrupt because of years of mismanagment, over spendingg, growth in pension obligations and a bad economy--and your group equates that to a brand new city with no pension obligations, no bonds out, outsourcing as an integral part of providing services and, significantly, a new city providing just a few services. Just curious. How pleased were you with your team's effort there?
Truth before Power July 27, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Brookhaven NO SPENT $15,500 to David Scott Rials, CEO for site developer (Clear-cutter) called Live Oak Site Development Inc in Cumming, GA One BIG expense!!! Brookhaven Yes - 44% of their cash donations= $16,200.00 cash, according YOUR source! Right Path Strategic Affairs, Cumming, GA Per Georgia Secretary of State: RIGHT PATH STRATEGIC AFFAIRS, LLC Registered Agent: RIALS, DAVID SCOTT Also, check out collusion: Ms. Cobb’s request, and she replies: “Fantastic! Thank You. Any help we can get to help fight the city is appreciated.” No coordination with the county?! Busted!!! BrookhavenFacts.com
John Q Public July 27, 2012 at 02:45 PM
How pleased are the efforts of your team here? http://theotherbrookhaven.blogspot.com/
Dr. Jeff July 27, 2012 at 03:14 PM
The Founding Fathers of FUDge have been outed. And there is much more to come. Poor Chuckie K-Man and his dramatic portrayal of a man who has been wronged. Won't be recommending Post Properties! Or, a tiny design biz by the master designer of FUDge!
Dr. Jeff July 27, 2012 at 03:16 PM
It sure will Miscreant Eddie Haskhill... Temp to Perm is how it will row... Great potential in all of this!
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Truth(from some alternative universe) before power (gets handed over to private contractors) Would you like to see the emails between Rep. jacobs and the nice folks at Carl Vincent before they arrived at just what would go into determining 'feasibility'? It seems the mis-Representative seemed to think they were beyond open records.
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Dr. Joke, If anyone knows about Foul-Underhanded-Doubledealing it is certainly the 'yes-I-want-to-turn-governance-into-a-rental-for-profit-enterprise' crowd.
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Dr. Joke, For you ,I suggest holding your breath. Heck, start now!
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 03:25 PM
Phil, If in your distorted notion of appropriate governance you have the misguided notion that mistreating employees (rented or not) is the way to achieve 'better governance' then you and I have distinctly different definitions of what it is to be human and treat each other properly. If you are referring to the municipal bankruptcies in CA, then you are as misguided as usual since those bankruptcies are a direct result of the bush depression and accompanying real estate crash and have nothing to do with the reasons you suggest (although if one gets ones news from wrong wing rant radio, I can understand why one might be so deluded). Anyway, the facts are the fact and when the bush depression finally ends, all things are bound to improve. And of course we will all be glad that the misguided efforts to rent our governance to the lowest bidder had failed miserably.
William July 27, 2012 at 04:30 PM
@John Q Do you want me to summarize the companies that have given money to Burrell Ellis? The No City rap is so tired...it is a house of cards built on deception by the county and a distortion of facts. Theredifference between those companies and the ones that want to contract with a city is accountability and transparency....the county doesn't have it, while a new city does. Fact #1- Contracting with private companies to provide services SAVES MONEY. Fact #2- Cities are transparent. If you are interested in ALL of the outstanding and archived RFP's for the city of Dunwoody, want to read the responses to the RFP's, and/or want to see who won the bids and why, feel free to go to: http://www.dunwoodyga.gov/departments/Finance_Administration/Purchasing.aspx It's all there in black and white. Now, if you want to show me where I can find the RFPs, bids, and processes for services provided to DeKalb by outside firms, feel free to give me the link.
Jack of Kings July 27, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Eddie E.! Thank you for finally saying it! IT IS ALL BUSH'S FAULT! I defer to your incisive judgement. How can I argue with such original thought? But I would like to ask you if you think it is immoral and unethical to outsource commodity services like park maintenance if necessary to hold the line on raising taxes? Or should we ignore the cost saving opportunity of some outsourcing and RAISE TAXES --even though you say you are for NOCITY and lower taxes (I cannot see how that is going to happen without outsourcing in Dekalb)? Thanks in advance for your reply.
William July 27, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Burrell Ellis- $500 from AM-Liner (a Virginia sewer repair company) $500 from Urban Utility Services $500 from APD Solutions (a regional 'neighborhood revitalization firm') $1,500 from BEPC, LLC (a building servicing company) $1,200 from Burt Kleinpeter (a Louisiana architecture firm) $500 from Business Oriented Software Solutions (in Norcross) $2,500 from the national DRIVE committee (teamsters political action fund) $250 from DW and Associates (a Michigan restructuring firm) $500 from E2 Assure LLC (a Norcross restructuring firm) $1,000 from Excel Electric Technologies (Kennesaw) $1,000 from Galgon HVAC (Atlanta) $750 from GS Construction (Atlanta construciton firm) $500 from the Haley Law Firm (In Louisiana) $2,500 from Kemi Construction (Atlanta Construction firm) $500 from Knight and Associates (Atlanta Enigineering firm) $1,000 from Liuna Local 515 (construction union) $500 from Loris Transportation and Excavation (a road paving firm) $250 from Marian Dockery and Associates (a law firm specializing in employment law) $500 from MVP Piping Company (Acworth) $2,500 from Neil Engineering (Lilburn who contracts with the City of Atlanta) $1,200 from Orkin and Associates (an Alpharetta real estate firm) $250 from Randolph and Co (a civil construction firm) $551.25 from Synergy Real Esate (home builders) $250 from Technaserve (IT Consultants) $250 from the Kennedy Financial Group (beneftis company out of Louisiana)
Eddie E. July 27, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Phil (known anonymous menace), I didn't say that at all. However, a catastrophic economic disaster is usually hung on the shoulders of the 'leader' who's guaranteed-to-fail-policies have the certain effect. Of course, those who supported the insane policies seemed most shocked and were most likely to suggest 'who knew this would happen'. I'm glad that Wednesday will dawn free of any new municipalities because I'm sure those who dug us into the hole would be the most shocked when it caved in around us! IF the costs to maintain the infrastructure require it, I think we should quit attempting to invent 'work arounds' and face the facts AND RAISE TAXES. After the need is met, rein in the expense and lower the taxes if warranted. Outsourcing to for profit companies should be the ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT for municipal governance. Vote for your Children's future,......VOTE NO!!
Jack of Kings July 27, 2012 at 05:07 PM
"...face the facts AND RAISE TAXES." Got it. "Vote for NOCITY and accept the inevitable. Raise Taxes" Well., I am not a professional political strategist, but I would not advise NOCITY Brookhaven to use that line in a mailer.
William July 27, 2012 at 05:10 PM
cont...... $500 from the Lions Group (General Contractor) $500 from Thrasher Trucking Company (General Contractor) $2,500 from WHI (a construction consulting firm) $500 from Whitehead Electric Company $750 from Wolverton and Associates (consulting firm) $2,500 from Yancy Brothers (a construction/heavy equipment dealer!) that doesn't include law firms or individuals that are CEO's of real estate firms, constuction firms, or other firms that gave individually. And here's the kicker...that is just for ONE disclosure form in June of 2012. I don't know about you guys, but I'd feel a lot more comfortable with John Q and these other folks if they made any sort of attempt to point out the status quo rather than just trying to scare folks with b.s.

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