Sandy took money from Weissman, Currie,et al a firm that has sought to poke holes and undermine the Brookhaven overlay and has business before the Dekalb board of commissioners and will have business before the Brookhaven city council. Sandy should be ashamed and not have you, her campaign manager, write silly "articles" for her trying to deflect her real ethical violations and hypocrisy. Will Sandy return the money she took from No City Brookhaven who paid her for "consulting" on how to stop the city?

Doug is also part owner of Savi Market on Dresden Drive. Now that I know he and his firm are supporting shameful Sandy, I will find another place to buy my wine.

That is a good point Tim. I've heard Doug Dillard is an avid organic farmer. I agree that reasons for people giving contributions are many and often honest. Same is true for people who have business interests, whether it be the local shop keep or an engineering firm. They likely will take an interest in supporting candidates that will successfully run the city. We all know that J. Max is committed to the outsourcing model of city services, Sandy Murray's commitment is less certain so of course they will contribute to J. Max because that is the model they want to see pursued. But then again I think that's the model the majority of Brookhaven residents want to see pursued.

But more importantly may I ask this question? Someone on the other thread added up the dollars contributed that could be said to come from the potential vendors as $2,300. Does that seem correct to you? Because that's really not very much money.

I would also like to know why shameful Sandy has not attended any of the recent Commission meetings at St. Martin's. You would think someone asking for our votes would want to know about the progress being made by these groups of volunteers. J. Max and Larry have been there, where have you been Sandy?

Libel is actionable in the Superior and State court of DeKalb County. I am sure Mr. Davis is aware of this as well. I can't believe you actually signed your name to such an obvious lie. You also have put your client, Ms. Murray, under threat of a libel action when you printed and mailed out other clearly libelous statements. False words disseminated to the public in print can be actionable even in a political campaign.

So what other interest to the corporate contributors have?

Tim:

List them please. You are talking about contributions to his campaign for Mayor, right? Or are you mixing in BY money?

Because I looked at the contributions reported and there is no $10K one.

Who better to know Phil was talking to Mr. Jim than J herself.

Mr. Phil, I see that you attended last night’s last Brookhaven Mayoral Debate. I also see that you were talking to Mr. Jim. Were you apologizing to Mr. Jim for your continued accusations that he is HamBurger? You never answered my previous post regarding this question. Why? Have you forgotten? Do you need a reminder?

Regardless of J. Max Davis’s distasteful and shameful behavior, I am still voting for him! Since you were there, is it true that things got a little hot for him because of statements by two candidates?

Special hamburger and a Cheerwine to refresh your memory?

HamBurger you never apologized for or acknowledged this incorrect statement you made :

"HamBurger
11:35 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Mr. Gabriel, please . . . He paid it yesterday or this morning and the records were updated."

Show some character and acknowledge it. We all make false assumptions, that's ok, its what we do with them after learning the truth that tells the story.
Unfortunately you make incorrect statements a lot then just ignore them when caught.

To steal another poster's line Sizzle Sizzle POP POP, Better turn yourself over cause i think you are overdone.

Phil, I too find it insulting to suggest that professionals such as our TBD City Manager, Police Chief, City Attorney and City Council members WE VOTE TO REPRESENT US will be so unethical to allow the Mayor to award contracts to vendors who gave LEGAL contributions to J. Max. Shameful Sandy is getting desperate, as are her shrinking number of supporters. I once feared a run-off in the vote for Mayor, but I no longer do. A quorum will be seated by November 12th.

Mr. Phil, repeatedly, you have insisted that I am someone other than who I am. You have done so at the gleeful degradation of an individual in Drew Valley as well as a respected candidate running for office in district #2. Yet, you continue to ignore a district #2 candidate that was so egotistical to author an article about himself in the Patch and to even participate in the forum posts in the article. Clearly, you are not and never have been objective.

Again, are you ready to apologize for your repeated incorrect personal attacks against these individuals?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mr. Phil, no, you were talking to Mr. Jim, Mr, J. Max, Ms. Hope, and then there is you. Here is the picture:

http://tinyurl.com/9jnxnpz

At some point, I understand you were talking one on one to Mr. Jim. Yet, you have yet to confront him as to him being HamBurger?

Again, are you ready to apologize for your repeated incorrect personal attacks against these individuals?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Oh! Tagged! LOL! Bongo drums... hehe... really.... did ya'll do kokomo?

Mr. Mark, how about all of your various ballot committees? And, just who were the contributors? Care to post a link? Plus, are you involved with the Brookhaven Commission?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mark,
As one of those willing contributors I think you might want to review just why the money was being collected and who was collecting it. I believe you are grossly in error to assume for a second that 'Ms. Murray' collected anything.
Of course, I would still like to find who the individuals and corporations were that secretly collected the money to allow 3 precincts to foist this impending disaster on the rest of us. What reason is there to maintain the secrecy?

I applaud Ms. Murray for endeavoring to become a Mayor who is not hostage to the secret contributors and will be much more likely to attune and respond to the will of the Citizens.

Which is why I am sure those who funded the municipalization efforts are so troubled by her candidacy.

Eddie, thanks for proving my point. The financial backers of Sandy Murray consider the City of Brookhaven, as you so eloquently put it, an "impending disaster". Why would anyone want to vote for a candidate who is paid for by those type of supporters.

I'd much rather vote for a candidate who is supported by those who are intent on making the City of Brookhaven a success.

Why is shameful Sandy having to collect contributions from Baton Rouge, LA? Can she not find more people in Brookhaven to support her candidacy?

Mr. Mark, how do you feel about Brookhaven being included in the new county of Milton?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mark,
Nothing has changed since I first heard about mikeys clown plan for a city and everything (so far at least) has spooled out pretty much as I expected.
Why on earth to the tunnel-vision salespitchers think everything will be wonderful because they said so?
Also, I take offense to the 'those type of supporters' sleight since I don't really believe it is appropriate to assign classifications to 'those who drank the kool-aid' and 'those who never will'.
I feel much better about having my governance affairs overseen (at large and in District 2) by Sandy Murray than by the big man and his mini-me.
Success will occur or not based on the accuracy of the CVI and budget projections, not on the lofty aspersions of one person or another.
By the way, will you be releasing the C4ND contributors list? It appears there is much more to be seen by comparing the before and after.

Mr. Phil, you do realize that you have created problems for innocent parties because of your continued, inaccurate assumptions, don’t you? Actually, you may have contributed to financial costs for one individual. You are aware of this, right?

Mr. Phil, I owe you nothing for your mistaken assumptions. However, I wonder how you would feel if you were in the position you have placed others.

HamBurger you never apologized for or acknowledged this incorrect statement you made :

"HamBurger
11:35 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Mr. Gabriel, please . . . He paid it yesterday or this morning and the records were updated."

Show some character and acknowledge it. We all make false assumptions, that's ok, its what we do with them after learning the truth that tells the story.
Unfortunately you make incorrect statements a lot then just ignore them when caught.

To steal another poster's line Sizzle Sizzle POP POP, Better turn yourself over cause i think you are overdone.

Mr. Phil, apparently, you are an extraordinarily egocentrically narcissistic individual with no concern for others . . .

Here . . . Let me get you another special hamburger and a Cheerwine . . .

Mr. Phil, once before you asked me a question and I answered. You chose to ignore my answer and continued to manipulate my response for your benefit. I will let you continue to play without me.

Special hamburger?

HamBurger you never apologized for or acknowledged this incorrect statement you made :

"HamBurger
11:35 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Mr. Gabriel, please . . . He paid it yesterday or this morning and the records were updated."

Show some character and acknowledge it. We all make false assumptions, that's ok, its what we do with them after learning the truth that tells the story.
Unfortunately you make incorrect statements a lot then just ignore them when caught.

To steal another poster's line Sizzle Sizzle POP POP, Better turn yourself over cause i think you are overdone.

Phil,
Do you have anything of value to add to the discussion?

Mr. Phil, by default? In your warped mind.

Next time you see Mr. Jim, maybe you should ask him if he is HamBurger. I am surprised you didn’t while you were talking to him at the debate on Monday. You had an opportunity to address this question directly with Mr. Jim, yet didn’t. Clearly it is not about the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/9jnxnpz

Special hamburger and a Cheerwine?

HamBurger you never apologized for or acknowledged this incorrect statement you made :

"HamBurger
11:35 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Mr. Gabriel, please . . . He paid it yesterday or this morning and the records were updated."

Show some character and acknowledge it. We all make false assumptions, that's ok, its what we do with them after learning the truth that tells the story.
Unfortunately you make incorrect statements a lot then just ignore them when caught.

To steal another poster's line Sizzle Sizzle POP POP, Better turn yourself over cause i think you are overdone.

Does HamBurger have anything of value to add to this thread? Seems like he has stalker issues by taking pictures of people and posting them on The Patch. Sad.

Johnathan you are free to use though you did make some changes:

Sizzle Sizzle POP POP... think its time for you to flip yourself, you're getting a little burned

LMAO Lets Make B Great!

BrookhavenGA I HamBurger didn't take the picture, its just HamBurger 24/7 hours staring at the computer screen.

Mr. Johnathan, I am not in the habit of apologizing for incorrect information posted on a government website. You do realize that all of the candidates were erroneously listed as owing late fees, right? You may not be aware, but Ms. Holly LaBerge handled J. Max’s correction in an expeditious manner. She said the others would have to wait until she could get to them. By the way, more than one candidate had called Ms. Holly yesterday morning.

The apology is not mine to make.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Eddie,

Was Sandy paid by he No Brookhaven folks to stop the city? I believe so. Don't believe J Max took any money from the Yes people. So does that mean Sandy's vote was bought? Transparency! Ethics! Morals! (not with Sandy)

After driving by your place of business I better understand your fear of code enforcement! Maybe we should call the EPA Superfund to have Obama pay you to clean it up.

Al's

jw,
No, Sandy was not paid by No City for anything. What an absurd question.

The 'yespeople' was almost entirely corporate funded (as per the disclosures) so it certainly would not be a stretch to 'assume' funders of a certain mayoral candidate might be the same ones who funded the municipalization effort now would it?

And, I have no fear of code enforcement but I appreciate your continuous flow of hollow, inaccurate veiled threats. I guess that is all you know how to do. But here's a hint, get a copy of the State Handbook on stormwater compliance for auto shops (stop by and I'll give you one), then look in the credits.

Eddie,
Just look at the campaign disclosure filed by No City Brookhaven to see where they paid Sandy Murray and listed her as a "Consultant". She is the only candidate for Mayor who actually made money off the no city/yes city campaign. Will we get moral outrage from you or your buddies or just more crickets?.......

That?
That's what you guys are whining about?
I thought you were worrying about something on the level of the contribution made by the guy who thinks he will be selling the city Police cars.
What a hoot.

Sandy Pay Your Fines, Eddie will never let the facts against his candidate stand in the way of the false accusations she makes.

You make a great point, but Eddie is blinded by Sandy and her lies.

Great point?
Well I have take your word for it because I've never seen the top of his/her anonymous head.

Eddie, Just want to get clarification that it was ok for Sandy personally and directly benefit from the payment of consulting fees to support the no city campaign. BUT, it is really bad to take legal contributions of less than 5% of your total contributions (in total) from a POTENTIAL vendor to the city wherein the mayor only gets to vote in the case of a tie of the city council.

What a joke!!!

jw,
Enlighten me.
What is the parallel?
Especially when the one who was so quick to bellow about 'ending pay-to-play' (if it ever existed) to make such a boneheaded error?
For further introspection, what if 20 people made such a (in your words) 'small' contribution?
Yet another clear and obvious reason to amend the Federal Constitution to set aside the insane valuation of 'speech' provided by Citizens United.
Also, the 'consulting fees' were chickenfeed and not part of a Candidate electoral campaign.
Even you must be able to see the difference.

Eddie, you work on amending the constitution. I think your time would be well spent there and leave the real work of creating the city to those who care about having a better place to live.

I am still waiting on the endorsements and donations from The Dekalb county politicians who are eager to work with Sandy to make the Brookhaven transition soooo smooth.

First you deny the obvious question which was did Sandy get paid by No Brookhaven and you said it was absurd. Then you said, oh that little amount of money. That is what you are whining about?

You and Sandy are the whiners, and obviously many of the posters here have seen through your charade.

Please tell Sandy to keep doing all of these stupid campaign tactics so she can keep her 100% record of successfully losing campaigns.

jw,
You are good for a laugh.
When maxjr gives back the money, I want to see his birth certificate, college records, tax returns and passport.
Let's get really absurd.

jw (just another hidden anonymous poster)
Well, I guess this is another time you need to, as they say, put up or shut up.
False allegations need to be proven or retracted.
Also, your deflection does not dispose of the fact, there is a clear and real difference between Citizens and Corporations. Especially when the corporations intend to profit off the Citizens!

Sandy Murray's last mailout, with the doctored picture of J. Max and the J Max tip line and half truth's was disgusting and representative of her style of posting
"Trust me" those Yesers say! HA!"
"But oh goody! There's a big pile of money to play with!"

That mailout was not something a potential mayor should be sending out under their name.

And the filing fines whether correct or just not corrected by the campaign - it adds to the perception that she can't focus or follow through. Attention to detail and follow through will be important.

Not good traits for a someone who seeks to lead and unite a city .

While we are at it, let's unmask the 'legion' of anonymous cityhood fearmongers to show exactly who is behind that curtain.

Mr. Phil, everyone knows who Eddie is. You have not been paying attention!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Phil,
Check the NoCity contributors list, then give me a call!

TomMiller, What time shall we arrive? Perhaps we can come and walk around with a camera to film the debauchery that will be taking place. The glad handing of actual voters and such as that, how disgusting. Taking ill gotten contributions of people who don't want a city? I can't wait, maybe Eddie and Hamburger will show up and the skys will part and the city will be no more!!!

And in honor of her president (Obama), they Imlays and the whomever they are "family office", everything will be free!!! What a wonderful place to live. I can't wait, if Sandy gets elected, there will be no taxes!!!

Given Sandy's tight connections with Dekalb County officials, I am sure there will be plenty of elected Dekalb County officials (Burrell and his buddies) on hand to support their candidate. Also, with a hand out to take any "pay for play" contributions you may have available.

I love this county!!! I mean city!!!

This is great! I will have an opportunity to meet Mr. Tom!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

jw,
One little correction, Barack Obama is all of America's President and will be until 2016.
I hope you enjoy the next 4 years, especially in the civilized parts of the Country.

Eddie, unlike you, I do respect the rule of law. Unlike Hamburger, I will admit that you are correct and I was wrong. He is my President and I respect the will of the people, even if I disagree with him. I am proud to be an American, regardless of who is president and I work tirelessley to better the opportunities for myself and my fellow American's, regardless, of who is President. I will continue to be a productive member of my country, regardless of who is President and I will continue to be a proud American, regardless of who is President. I am so proud to be an American.

I wish you would proclaim the same about Brookhaven, but alas, that is not your style.

I remain, a proud American

jw,
I will concede you respect the appropriate feathering of your own nest.
I don't see any respect for the law.
At least MY conscience is clear.

Hamburger, So this means we will be able to walk up to you and know that you are not a candidate for office by the fact that you will have in your hands the documents confirming that J Max has accepted $10k for his mayoral campaign?

For this, Phil may show up in his white shorts.

Ms. Just Wondering, you need to clear all that with my agent, Mr. Phil!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Eddie, Will you commit to moving your business and from your house when J Max wins? Please?? We don't need any more of your ilk in the new city. The VAST majority of Brookhaven, just want a City they can be proud of, regardless of how they voted about whether the City should or shouldn't be.

You have no shame and no honor, just as I expected. No matter how gracious others may be, admitting they may be wrong, you are still a hater.

Now that is the kind of citizens we don't need. It harkens back to the days in Georgia we all aren't proud of, hate them for who they are (for the city), not because of who they are (Citizens of Brookhaven).

I doubt Martin Luther King would be proud of your hatred and venomous spirit.

Or are you just full of hatred and bitterness and there is no good that can come from the City of Brookhaven?

I had the great opportunity to speak with Joseph E. Lowery yesterday, a man who was passionate about what he did and what he accomplished, however, not once did he ask me who I voted for or what I believed. Just a decent human being, gracious to all.

Hammy, I am confident Phil is ok with this.

He will be happy to finally acknowledge that you are not a candidate for public office.

I have a feeling the paperwork documenting the fact that J. Max has taken $10K in donations for his campaign may be lacking, so how shall I identify you at the Bat and Ball. Perhaps the grease will still be running on your chin? Or will it be the mustard on your shirt?:

I will be looking for your empty hands tomorrow night.

Just wondering, what type of wine will the Imlays be providing, I am rather picky about my Cabernet? I prefer Silver Oak.