Who are you to welcome or not anyone to anywhere?

don Garoucho

I see, Central Command has yet to script a response to that one.

And, until then, no BYesser is, as always, permitted to answer for themselves.

It will be interesting to see if there is a reaction in the local business community now that there will be a new city. This is unknowable, but I wonder how many businesses have been going through a lengthy businees licensing process and/or applying for building permits that may be more encouraged with a new city.

On the contrary Thomas, the clear winners are the citizens of Brookhaven. Even the ones who voted no will see over the next few years how the community will coalesce.
And to say that it has been nasty on both sides may be true but it has been markedly nastier on the No City side. To be sure, that is what cost them many, many votes. I know of several neighbors that changed their voting plans due substantially to the poor attitudes and name calling from the No City folks. Seems like they should have stuck to the facts instead of resorting to name calling.
To call a man out as arrogant for stating that there are no grudges or negativity kind of proves my point.

TP -
I think it is ‘extremely arrogant’ for you to assume you know exactly what he was saying. I see no implied reference to ‘injured party’ – instead it seems he was speaking to everyone, both sides, even you. If you prefer to be miserable, have your wish, but most of us are moving forward and we will celebrate our cityhood opportunity. Join us?

A 10 point margin is not "the very slimmest of victories". That is considered a landslide.

55% - while not being 10-run ruled, it a nice majority. You're entitled to your opinion as well. No celebrations? Disagree with you there. Beautiful day to celebrate. Poor attempt to paint this as gloating. Nothing but positive projections here neighbor. Hope you get involved and bring some diversity to your council.

Seems some folks could use a fried chicken taco from Verde today. Preaching to the choir, I think I'll head that way now.

"We don't hold grudges or negativity in our hearts," Yea I agree with the others. That's clearly a gesture to say all our invited to participate in moving Brookhaven forward.

And now comes the time to select candidates who will present their vision of how best to move Brookhaven forward. I hope we get a good diverse group of candidates.

This is the very slimmest of victories and the lack of comments here thus far is testament to the bitterness and emptiness this vote has left in its wake. I think that "Davis to be quoted as saying 'We don't hold grudges or negativity in our hearts,' is extremely arrogant because..."

He not only has the gall to presume himself and so-called "citizens committee" an, in effect, interim government but also has the gall to invite "everyone to now" them.

I saw nothing on the ballot to commission, or not, Max Davis and this so-called "citizens committee" to serve as any, in effect, interim government.

"...it presumes the pro-Brookhaven people are the injured party in a very nasty campaign (from both sides)..."

"On both sides"? Clearly not. The C4ND/BYessers went after those who opposed them not unlike Syria's so-called President goes after his own fellow citizens; and woe to anyone still who does not now "join" them.

"There should be no gloating, no celebrations, there is no clear real winner here and lots of damage."

The damage is still being pursued. Did you not see the post by the BYesser yesterday evening, before the polls were even closed, that, in so many words, is warning Brookhaveners that DeKalb County's police will seek retaliation?

That sort of preposterousneess is more than merely malicious and deliberate.

It is their projecting themselves onto others.

And again, woe onto anyone who does not "now" join them.

It's really unfortunate for all of us dG that you possess and spew forth so much hatred & rant-like vitriol. Many of us are peace loving folks that would wish no harm or ill will upon others.

I definitively understand that your world view and psychological make-up brings doom and gloom. Mat I treat you to a Chick-fil-a meal... It does make things better.

"Peace loving"---Dr. Jeff

"Peace-loving"? Given your statements addressed to me, for ex: my walking one night down Buford Hwy, your threat to visit my home to "serenade," etc. what do you know of this fellow "Joe" Newton?

For that matter anyone reading:

From a recent Patch report:

"Roberts alleges that a man named Joe Newton came onto her property this past Saturday while she was unloading groceries from her vehicle. She said Newton has recently urged her to withdraw from the race Roberts also said she has filed a police report in regard to a June 9 incident in which she alleges that a man approached her residence 'apparently to try to frighten me out of the race.'

Roberts alleges that a man named Joe Newton came onto her property this past Saturday while she was unloading groceries from her vehicle. She said Newton has recently urged her to withdraw from the race because of concerns over her residency.

'I immediately called my husband to tell him to hurry home,' Roberts said. 'I then attempted to take a picture of Joe through my front door, and when he saw what I was attempting to do, he left our property and sped away.'

Roberts said she filed a police report the next day."

I don't what demented demon has possessed you but I have never threatened anyone. Libel all you want dude, it only serves to make you more pathetic in your views.

On another note.... Ms. Roberts handled the situation with Joe Newton extremely well. She should have never been placed in that situation. Similarly, I should have never been threatened for having a Brookhaven Yes sign in my yard. I handled that situation very well also and without harm to anyone.

Root all you want!

Everyone else can keep an eye open for my upcoming seminars:

"Leasing Your Residential Property as a Halfway House For Fun And Profit"!

"Leasing Your Residential Property as a Halfway House For Fun And Profit"! ---Eddie E.

Be careful. Once you have tenants one or two nearby police departments may go there looking for recruits!

Dean,
Look at it from a prospect of reality.
1/6 of the voters in the 'mudprint' voted for cityhood.
1/6 voted against.
2/3 didn't vote at all.
Good luck with making things work out.

"Good luck'

Thanks, Eddie

Dean,
I hope those 5,590 people are read to work themselves to the bone in service to our new 'city'.
I'm not holding my breath.

Keep 'em working, Eddie.

at around 10,000 it was like 20% of the 49,000 in Brookhaven and 30% of the purported 30,000 registered voters.

I agree you don't have to like it and granted some of us are more optimistic but I agree with your comment about trying to make the best of things. Hopefully that can and will happen.

I agree, also agree with Ashford Observers point that we don't need to build new fields just focus on better maintaining what we have now.

To the extent more fields are needed we should follow Sandy Springs' example and work out cost sharing agreements or other types of agreements to be able to use the fields at local schools when they are not in use.

"Development"?

Right now it appears to be the unloading of that white elephant complex where Harris Teeters' was on the taxpayers. To be of course a heard of white elephants as the imposed city's new City Hall complex.

With, of course, a choo-choo train from the parking lot to be made out of where Hastings, along side, was down Dresden to the new commercial and "capture-stage" area there.

In each case, as I stated months ago, close enough to the real City Hall: Pub 71.

Ball fields aren't a bad idea. But we have a lot of fields now that could be better maintained and if more are needed we could use the fields at the schools.

Per GA law and as described in Section 6 of the City Charter, the governor appoints the commission. I would send a letter to his office stating your qualifications and what council district you live in, since one person from each district must be appointed.

I think its fair to say there is some politics involved in any political appointment. But i'm not sure of any other way to do it. Their limited duties are also laid out in the Charter.

I'm sure people have already submitted letters of interest since before the election since this is a legislatively prescribed route that's also been used for the other cities.

"Has the positions already been decided?"

Surely before Jacob's proposal even hit the legislature.

"Per GA law and as described in Section 6 of the City Charter, the governor appoints the commission."---Eric

Because it is DeKalb County which denied us the right to vote. Right?

"I would send a letter to his office stating your qualifications and what council district you live in, since one person from each district must be appointed."

You would?

If you want such a letter to be of any use to the recipients, please do pre-fold as an airplane.

Eric, the question had been asked: "Has the positions already been decided?"

You responded: "Per GA law and as described in Section 6 of the City Charter, the governor appoints the commission."---

And then advised sending a letter to the Governor.

Why did you not say instead, that the USA is a free country. That, if a US Citizen unencumbered by conflict of interest, including dual-citizenship, sought or conferred, renounced or even unrenounced, the fellow has the right to seek public office anywhere in the USA?

And the only permission required to obtain office is election by your fellow citizens to that office?

Wow Terrell, I guess you can look at it that way. I'm not certain how else you transition since we need to wait until November to vote for candidates.

As I said their powers are limited and if something objectionable is done the city council members and mayor we elect can try to fix it.

Also as stated in the Charter, The people appointed by the Governor may not run in this election for Brookhaven Council positions or Mayor.

Eric,
Will that happen:
After taxes are reduced.
After police protection is increased
After parks are turned into paradises.
After adequate worker protection is put into place first (so we don't have to pay to settle lawsuits later).
After we make it rain lemonade (just like in dunwoody).
I voted NO because I don't see much hope in the promises ever coming true.

The responsibility is now SQUARELY on the shoulders on those hell-bent on bringing this into existence. I hope the the new complaint numbers are published soon now that we have new people to call for all the problems that have previously been the responsibility of the county because new faces won't solve the problems.

Seems like a majority of the voters in Brookhaven were "hell-bent on bringing this into existence", Eddie. 55% in fact - the truth hurts, doesn't it? It sucks to be in the minority and not have your voice heard, right? Now you know how Brookhaven voters have felt about Dekalb leadership in the past. Rather than bitching about it and doing nothing, the citizens of Brookhaven have now done something about it. I'd like to suggest that rather than sitting on the sidelines and doing nothing that you get off your ass and do something to help, but it doesn't seem like you're interested in doing anything but bitching, so enjoy your lot in life.

Peter,
To retierate, 55% of those who bothered to vote or 10% of the total number of Citizens affected (primarily A-D Road precinct, Ashford Parkside precinct and Montgomery precinct) wer the 'huge majority' selecting this.
Pat mikey and tell him thanks for stuffing this into the primary ballot.
But don't get me wrong, I'm not bitching.
You guys identified problems that you thought were the most important things in the world, so you guys need to get busy fixing them!

Amen Peter Tharp! It's an interesting bait and switch when a BYNO'er spews hatred about those of us north of Peachtree, claims we hate DeKalb county, that we don't want to pay our taxes, & that we are driven to want ours first.

Now the same person screams "I don't want MY taxes supporting a new city" & "I want to be left alone." Lays all responsibility on the 55% to make it happen, wants new numbers to start complaining. Seems he hates the new city of Brookhaven before it's fully operational and its new leadership is elected.

BTW, let's not forget about the promises made to us by DeKalb county over the years as we faithfully paid our taxes. We can learn a great deal from our county experiences in order to hold our new leaders accountable.

Dr. Joke,
Is this the first volley in a long war of retrenchment?
How much of the sales pitch was a bald faced lie?
No worries, we'll all find out soon enough.
After all 'lower taxes' was the original lie and was parroted right through election day.

Doktor Jeffrey - play nice!!!

And it is all the responsibility of those who insisted it needed to be done.
All I want is to be left alone (and not pay any additional taxes).

"'How do you spell 'bitter?
don Gabacho" ---Phil

You must have a reading comprehension problem.

Since the moment it hit the Patch that Mike Jacobs ("low man on a very tall totem") had proposed a referendum for a new city, I have consistently posted that it's all a "charade."

That "Central Authority" has spoken to have a new city and thus a new city would be imposed.

I have never been under the delusion that any referendum contrived by "Central Authority" would result in anything other than what Central Authority had dictated.

How then can I be "bitter" about the result of this so-called "referendum"?

"You can pout or you can contribute your ideas and concerns."

Which I have nevertheless have all along.

"You have total control over your actions."

I do not.

I must defend myself and family.

"The Civil War is over. Reconstruction has begun."

I cede nothing to what I know to be invalid.

There is legal recourse and it will be taken.

Any referendum?... TSPOST Referendum resoundly defeated...

Any referendum?...---Dr. Mutt

No. Now read what I said: "Any referendum contrived by Central Authority."

"TSPOST Referendum resoundly defeated..."

It wasn't Central Authority's.

"It's Federal! It's Federal! It's Federal!"

LOL!!!! TSPLOST, not TSPOST... Typo.... At any rate TSPLOST is not federal as you stated.... It was created by Central Authority, GA House Bill 277.

As a central authority referendum it was defeated!

"LOL!!!! TSPLOST, not TSPOST... Typo.... " ---Jeff

That's a quote. Copied and pasted from your previous post.

"...TSPLOST is not federal as you stated...."

I did not "state." I quoted.

Yet a again, read what I wrote: "It's Federal!, It's Federal!, It's Federal!"

Obviously my quoting someone else does not make anything "Federal;" just as who I am quoting, and his cadre, certainly know.

"It was created by Central Authority, GA House Bill 277."

The house is not "Central Authority."

"As a central authority referendum it was defeated!"

Obviously, the first essential in learning how to read what others write is to actually read what others write.

Eddie E, such anger. My comments after each * to yours

After parks are turned into paradises.
**Not paradises. Have you seen the clay "field" across from the YMCA? ZERO repairs in 13 years. The Lynwood Park field is locked and fenced - according to the Dekalb flunky who works there - for a fricking year to let the grass grow. There are b-ball courts without rims on the baskets.

After adequate worker protection is put into place first (so we don't have to pay to settle lawsuits later).
**Well, workers exclusive remedy is workmans comp, so this is a lite.

you can't tell me that 55% of this community were HELL BENT on becoming a city. What you saw was democracy in action.

ashfordO
I have seen the field and I am not concerned. Nor do I want to waste a penny on changing it. It's a field for gosh sakes!
And don't complain to Ronnie about the basketball rims, he has singlehandedly removed more basketball rims than anyone on record (but that's a long story).
Worker protection = UNION (wake up).

So if that's what you want, pony up and make it happen.

I used the section across from the YMCA to host a fundraiser for the American Cancer Society last year. I paid the county handsomely to use it, followed all their rules to secure it & return it to how we found it (actually cleaner than we found it).

I was taken aback by the lack of running water, the horrible shape of the clay field and the stalk high weeds. Blackburn has the potential to be much more as a green space. Let's make all six of our parks better with our collective local tax dollars.

Dr. Joke,
I bet this taught you a lot about 'recon' before you rent a space didn't it.
There was nothing new about the situation you found.
It's probably been that way since Manuel was in charge.

don,
There's a little more to it than that.
And it has more to do with 'people not from our neighborhood' but we just had the first few battles of a Civil War over that.

"There's a little more to it than that." ---Eddie E.

Ii live about five minutes away from there. Walking.

Several decades ago I taught my two nephews and a niece how to play basketball there. They refused to play by the rules; and, after awhile I let them. It was great fun.

After some two decades in Mexico, I got home and, from time to time, enjoyed playing with the illegals there who would arrive like clockwork. Right about three in the afternoon. After putting in their eight hours landscaping.

Within minutes, they'd want to get their MxConsulates out of the States too. If only to then be able for themselves to get back home.

They, btw, never played by any real rules too.

For the same reason they refuse pedestrian signs for crossing or walking along highways.

It was great fun.

The day I went to the court and the rims had disappeared, I was pissed. I fervently wished the police would get the vandal.

Then the backboards and posts disappeared.

For a while there we'd play soccer on the asphalt that was left.

Something happened though. After only a few successive weekend games of soccer. They quit coming. I have no idea why....

...Then came a Memorial Day, and some big fish (Mx for a Mx fat cat) with his huge entourage of sycophants paying him all due homage, while blasting Norteno, utterly monopolized the covered patio with the picnic table and barbeque, plus some forty feet around.

If they were the illegals, and I had told them Oye, today is a special day reserved for honoring countrymen lost in war, they would have immediately stopped playing and, curiously quiet, ask a few questions about the special day.

They would not have to then be told to leave the area for the families who were waiting nearby thinking they would have their park for the occasion.

They'd actually leave with their heads down ashamed of themselves for not having noticed and in respect.

Do you think I bothered with the Big Fish and his entourage?

Yesterday some BYesser whined that there was something wrong with our park's grass. DeKalb County had not cut it the day before the arrival of these BYessers for their political rally. The county, it was complained, cut the grass only the day after the BYessers had climbed back in their Suvs and left.

Granted. It didn't look like a golfing green, but not only was there absolutely nothing wrong with the grass, but I know of no one who actually lives within blocks of the park who ever wanted it to be a golfing green either.

P.S.: Btw, while I did not bother to say anything to the Mx Fat Cat & his entourage in homage, I did notice him eying me while I walked toward and through what he and his entourage staked out as his space; and while walking though drilled that man with a stare.

I noticed to that he recognized me though I did not recognize him. That happens often to me with Mexicans.

I noticed too, he and his entourage has never been back.

Probably laundering some money while playing golf with some bankers somewhere across P'Tree.

don Gabacho, the election's over why are you still posting nonsense? Doubt they are still going to pay you for these posts. Think the last paying gig was holding the signs outtside the precinct.

If you are doing this for kicks, then I'd suggest a new hobby. Because now you just seem like a f*cking dumbass.

" don Gabacho, the election's over..." ---Joe her

What election?

"...why are you still posting nonsense?"

Ooops! I did say: "Probably laundering some money while playing golf with some bankers somewhere across P'Tree."

It should have read: "Probably laundering some money while playing golf with some bankers somewhere across P'Tree over there in 'Brookhaven'."

"Doubt they are still going to pay you for these posts."

You accusing me of taking money from those clowns in Decatur?

"If you are doing this for kicks..."?

No. Just not rolling over for even more kicks.

I did get a kick out of knowing what would be reported to be the final percentages of the voting on the so-called referendum would be though

You know: when the local news showed the first percentage results favoring 'Brookhaven No', I knew that would be the final percentage flipped over to Brookhaven Yes.

Isn't computer programing easy?

BTW Jose, how many monikers does "Joe-her" make for you now?

Just how much extra are they paying you for every moniker you post under?

"Pony up and make it happen." Uh...EDDIE E .. that is what I do when I pay my taxes, right? And pay the user fee, and get an insurance policy rider to protect Dekalb Co, and am FORCED to hire dekalb security, plus a supervisor to unlock a Blackburn field ... but you knew all of that right? To rent a field for an hour?

Call me naive - I thought a field should have some grass on it. Any. Or that a lake like MCander should have safe walking paths - even the internal email to the Dek CEO noted such severe erosion at that lake from no upkeep was in violation of State Regs ... but you knew that since you walked there. .. or have you?

AO,
Haven't been there in years.
Not in my neighborhood.
Don't care.

Blue skies and clear days...
Reminds me of lyrics from 'The Brains' and former Brokehaven resident 'Darryl W. Rhodes (winner of the 1977 'Brookhaven Beach Seaport Authority' achievement award).

So make it happen!
You will probably find that it is much easier to throw 'sand' than it is to 'Govern'.

I pay my taxes and that is all I intend to contribute to this abomination.
Except to complain about potholes, uncut grass in the parks, inadequate police coverage, you know, all the things that apparently make life worth living in the Dun-Jilted Crescent!

Look at Brook Patch page hit stats, that point has returned.

Sadly, the malevolent, anonymous voice of negativity, bigotry, and vitriol are clear in their messaging - Beware of Us. A few have humorously egged these posters on, although nobody seems to be laughing.

The campaign was hard fought, comments online should be given exactly the minimal gravitas they deserve, while any deep mistrust needs to be met with head-on.

People trust people they know. If you were not the first person to line up and vote "YES" for Brookhaven, fine, but also now give the new process a chance to live up to everyone's expectations.

If nothing else, get involved early on so that your concerns, questions, comments, and voice may influence how Brookhaven is to become.

"Anybody who don't like this life is CRAZY" Manual Maloof

Yea the comments on this board ... And interestingly or sadly its from both sides.