I got a robocall from Sandy saying she wasn't against the creation of the city. Sorry to use such a harsh term but- "liar" -seems to be an appropriate here.There she is being against the creation of the city on election day and yesterday she says she wasn't . Can't be much more black and white than that. Calls into question everything she has claimed or said as a candidate. Wow.

"There she is being against the creation of the city on election day and yesterday she says she wasn't ."----Is that Sandy Murry in the pic?

Sort of like, having been against a rigged baseball game she, like others, must be prohibited from playing baseball ever again.

She, even among candidate, is not alone in this.

The difference? As opposed to the other no-city candidate, she appears to have decided to fight fire with fire.

Not necessarily the best idea.

Not when the source for the combustion remains.

Eddie, didn't you say the Sierra Club interviewed Brookhaven Candidates? Did they come to the same conclusion about Sandy and thus decide not to endorse anyone?

TJS,

That, sir/madame/whatever is incorrect.
But thanks for playing!

What's not correct?

Has the Sierra Club endorsed any Brookhaven Candidates? And if not why not?

The Sierra Club has endorsed Candidates in 3 Council races, not in the Mayoral race.
If you are a Sierra Club member and wish to attend the Political Committee meetings, you are welcomed to do so. The discussions are confidential in keeping with the guarantee of confidentiality extended to Candidates in order to foster frank discussion. It is not for public discussion with anonymous dead bands.

Eddie, I am not questioning the process. I just wanted to know if they made an endorsement and if not why.

So you gave me the answer, they did not endorse any Candidate for Mayor including Sandy Murray. But why there is no endorsement for the Mayor race is not disclosed to the general public.

It is safe to say there was NO reservation about the qualified candidates, just that there were more than enough of them.

Silly Edvard... Everyone should re-read the tons of sh*t you've blown out all throughout the cityhood initiative. But the little Fella's plan to defeat cityhood fell through & he went on the defensive with a serious diatribe stating that he didn't want to pay his taxes to a city of Brookhaven.

Later reality sets in & he begrudgingly mumbles that all he will do is pay his taxes & then doesn't want anything else to do with it stating, Greta Garbo style, "I want to be left alone."

As the history unfolds we clearly see he doesn't want to be alone & his "addictive" need to be in charge goes into overdrive. He definitely is involved as an operative in a clandestine little group of NObodies who would like nothing more than to see Brookhaven fail. He even dishes out more cash to join the rich crowd in supporting their quite unattractive & notably incompetent Sackeyed Murray. What an elitist group of know-it-all's.

So Edvard, what other tricks do you have up your pooper to undermine the effort? Oh yeah, we all know... Pontificate with an air of superiority, control situations through deception, cast a horrible pall upon something that the majority of voters on Election Day approved, continue spewing forth sterilized venom, etc...

As my sweet friend Donna Summers sang... Enough is enough is enough. Of course for you it will not, so we'll keep you around to continue working the clown show in your mind as we watch & enjoy.

Reminiscently,
Ms. Millendorf

PkCk,
Apparently you have not spoken to very many NoCity voters.
No matter, you really don't care what they think, you are obviously more intent on continuing the myth.

Edvard...you make me laugh! Your immaturity at the age of 57 is something to behold.

You don't want to listen to anyone but yourself AND you've consistently disparaged the good people in District 1 by calling & labeling them inappropriately & also maligning their character. You've painted your own self in a corner with your myth of superiority & dissension!

Stridently,
Ms. Millendorf

"There are several reasons some people voted against cityhood, including all the misconceptions and misrepresentations from no-city"---PkCk

The hardcore city enablers were even rabid in their repression of any concerns regarding the very formation of an unelected commission/interim government to serve for a so-called transition period for purported reasons that the same transitions and reasons that could, and should, have been reserved for the public officers to be elected.

Similarly, repressed the concern for the very sovereignty, much less integrity, of the referendum and tomorrow's elections: both local and national.

Similarly, the very propriety of the citizens of City of Brookhaven having been denied the legal option of townsship (which would have required no new police department and bevy of judges) and, similarly again, the valid concerns of citizens being denied the option of electing not only who is going to police us but also judge us.

Even in light, in at least one case, the call for a new police chief "experienced" with Spanish-speakers (code for subjecting them and all citizens to the authority of persons whose dual-citizenships, and thus irredemable potential for conflict of interest, should, as any other pubic office holder, disqualify them---also---from any position of the Public Trust.

Even while the same hardcore enablers endorsed for a election in DeKalb county a judge who is a "founding member" of the GA Association of Latino Elected Officials which promoted, and promotes still, voter registrations here featuring officials and employees of the MxGov illegally having and using still untold numbers of our own registration forms.

In light of which, candidates having been against the city, as authored and chartered, should serve as a reason to vote for them. Not vote against them.

No it certainly does not. But Sandy Murray went above and beyond that. Just look at the picture outside the polling place. Besides being a very poorly made sign the words say "City = High Tax 1/2 Police No"

You want to blame someone for oversimplification?

That she is getting so much funding and Larry is not also call's into question the motivations of those with an ex to grind.

Trinkle, Sandy Murray can sabotage the city. The city has 2 years to adopt at least 3 services from the county. If it does not then guess what?- Bye bye city and back to Dekalb where Sandy and you always wanted us. Sandy can bide her time for 2 years if she has Deb Anthony and Jim Eyre with her and all your No City dreams can be resurrected from the ash heap of the election you lost.

snc,
No worries, when the dissolution vote comes, it will be hard to find any starry-eyed former municipalization supporters.
Especially when the bidding turns into a REAL bidding process rather than a bought-and-paid-for-foregone-conclusion.

Uh, nice try. Too bad Sandy's tactic actually works against her campaign.
Quite the contrast here: J Max forthright about contributions from companies who might apply to do business with the city which will be subject to open competitive bidding. The contributions are fully legal, they have been fully disclosed properly, and they do not create a conflict of interest for the mayor.

On the other hand, Sandy Murray is pictured campaigning No to Brookhaven with her tacky sign on July 31, but now she is calling people claiming she was for the city. That is a lie. Also, SM accepted contribution from a well-know zoning law firm who stands to profit itself by arguing against Brookhaven’s zoning laws and the Brookhaven LCI. SM needs to explain to all the residents why she is funded by so many sources that have motives that conflict with what Brookhaven is all about: local representation and better service through open competitive bidding. The real issue with transparency is SM’s lack of it and failure to understand.

I'm sure jmaxjr is quite forthright about accepting campaign contributions from vendors who want to sell services to the city, so other than selling out the Citizens, I don't really know what jmax is really for.

that sign is tacky! Couldn't she get Tom Cousins to front $30 for the sign shop? or even $5 spot for some one with decent handwriting, or $3 for some stencils?

And white on black? She looks like she's holding up a large garbage bag. And it doesn't match her outfit.

If she wins I hope we can get a city hall so we can hang that picture.

ferdie,
Comments like that and you have the gall to use the term 'tacky'?

Dude looks like a lady

... So never judge a book by its cover
Or who you gonna love by your lover
Love put me wise to her love in disguise
She had the body of Venus ...

- Aerosmith

What did I say that was tacky Eddie?

Nice video! So, J. Max Davis is still saying it is OK to “pay to play”?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

No problem, neither the CVI study nor the Charter really has anything to do with the budget, necessary Police coverage, only the structure of the added Governmental layer.
And I do wish she was still on the ballot to trounce mikey on Tuesday.

Eddie, its not so much whether her points are true or not,. (though I don't agree they are) its how she conveys them:

"you seem to be ignorant" ; "'Trust me' those Yesers say! HA!" "But oh goody! There's a big pile of money to play with!"

Eddie for each comment she makes she feels the need to add a superfluous 4th grade level comment. It is like that No City sign she is holding up in the picture above. its not professional, its not diplomatic, its not becoming of someone who will be the face of the city.

I have met J. Max two times now and seen his presentations several times, in person or by video. J. Max is far more professional and diplomatic. J. Max is a good listener. At the 2 events I attended he spoke to people individually, answered their questions and then in speaking to the group weaved the issues or ideas they raised and cited those who raised them by name.

I don't think you will find J. Max calling people who disagree with him "ignorant" or sarcastically screeching "Oh Goody" or "HA!"

Eddie, I understand this maybe the vernacular in which you might use from time to time, and that's fine, but for a City that I hope will hold itself to the highest standard of professionalism that's not the style I want to elect to the position of Mayor. Since the Mayor generally only votes in a tie, one of the Mayor's biggest roles will be that of a mediator.

LMBG,
Apparently, you haven't been around here to watch jmaxjr in his previous losing campaigns. Words like 'distinguished' or 'gentleman' have no place in that historical context from my viewpoint as an observer.
I'm glad you think he would make a good mayor of this ill considered little burg.
I guess we just disagree.

But Edvard, your insights are so flawed because of the horrible smoked up lenses from which you view. You can only play the liberal game in the liberal crowd! Otherwise you're out of your element!

Fuzzy Mae,
I'm still waiting for you to belch forth with anything relevant.

But he says he's 'responsible' it's on the campaign flyers.
I thought if it was on a flyer it must be true!

Another myth destroyed.

Just another Sandy lie. I talked to JMax and he said he had to call the police back with the serial number the next day because like a responsible gun owner, he keeps his serial numbers at a separate location (his office) in case of a burglary or a house fire- ironic since his house burned down. See left wingers like Sandy don't understand responsible gun ownership. The pistol, for which he showed his permit to carry, also had no magazine or bullets with it which he always kept separate. "Untraceable" is also a lie because the gun was eventually recovered. She is going to have to answer for her lies in a big way real soon from what I hear. But saying and printing anything to get elected is Sandy's m.o. regardless of the facts or real consequences.

Wow, does Sandy have no shame?

Prove it. Police report says otherwise. I wonder who is running around with his untraceable firearm. Hopefully it was not a neighborhood kid or something. Thats the first person I would suspect in Brittany. Shameful and irresponsible.

Goodness TTT... You prove what the final outcome was or was not without relying on less than complete statements offered by Sandy & then digesting the full & completed report within 24 hours.

You must still be in the first few pages of the textbook for Cobb's Politics 101.

Fuzzy Mae,
Apparently you lack the need for sleep.
More time available to spend lying.

Wow, does Sandy have no Shame?

No Shame like giving out answers like this: "http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/four-vie-to-be-brookhavens-first-mayor/nSq7G/
AJC article has this statement from Ms. Murray: " Stance on incorporation before vote: Had concerns about the process but is committed to launching the new city."

But her tacky oversized sign made out of black garbage bags that she held up outside Montgomery Elementary School on Primary Election day says "City = High Taxes = 1/2 Police = No"

That's not a concern about the process that's no holds barred do whatever it takes and say anything to stop the City.

Wow J Max. You are the father of three small children yet you keep a loaded gun in the glove box of you unlocked car. Pretty responsible. Also, only you would know if you donated money somewhere sir. Thanks for the tip off friendo. I hope that's not the same gun Vernon was waving. Geeeesh. Scary.

Albie,
Even the basic NRA Gun Safety classes tend to suggest such behavior is inappropriate.

Whoa. What?? Are there ANY qualified candidates?

Oh my Eddie your bias has affixed quiet the set of binders on your head. Open your eyes. Sandy Murray campaign is the only Mayoral Campaign to dive into the cesspool with misleading flyers and doctored photographs.

Surely you can't be serious.

Really,
How much did Sandy Murray accept in campaign contributions from potential city service vendors?
I am used to nasty flyers (jill chambers was previously my House Representative, sure glad we got that taken care of) but what gets me is the sense of 'entitlement' from those who are so enamored with themselves for bringing this nonsense into existence.
I hope every former member of C4ND and BYes goes down to resounding defeat.

I can only hope for broad public participation to provide the heat from that magnifying glass. I am already concerned about a couple of the Police RFP's but that can be worked out, loudly and in public.

As to cars:
Both, separately.
Oxygen sensor?
How old (88-91, or 92-94?)

Tim, where have YOU been all week? lol You need a maid? Because you have LOTS of housekeeping to do!!

What if there is no speculation required?

What about those anonymous posters who persist in libelous conduct?

Don't the Citizens deserve to know the interests they are up against?

Everything we do is using only OEM parts (better parts, better warranty).
Call us 8-6, M-F.

J Max seems to have managed to have plenty of time to have led the incorporation effort. Larry Danese has done nothing to show me he can lead anything - smart guy but not a leader at all. Larry has zero chance - don't waste your vote.

Maven,
I may disagree with the last part, but only the last part.

Makes one wonder why the powers that be would select Sandy Murray over Larry Danese for the alternative candidate to J. Max.

Then again Larry probably wouldn't let them do some of the sleazy stuff Sandy apparently has no problem with.

Sandy Murray's campaign is the only Mayoral Campaign to dive into the cesspool with misleading flyers and doctored photographs.

Mr. Ferdinand, how quickly we forget the Brookhaven Yes (and sister Brookhaven Ballot Committee) mailers and robo calls . . .

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mr. Davis, for a fee, states that in many cases he can resolve debt ridden individuals from their obligations to pay said debt based on just how accurate the information the debt holder has in their possession. In most cases, these individuals are probably better off going bankrupt. Mr. J. Max Davis’s legal solution, by eliminating one debt but not others, can simply prolong the misery of the hopelessly indebted when they actually should seek full bankruptcy which may be less expensive in the long run. Have you seen J. Max Davis’s fee schedule?

But, there is a cost to living in Brittany!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Amendment for dist 3
Stevens 1
Podgor eighteen votes

Swami, your analysis is interesting, I am glad to see you have done your homework. I hope that the people of Brookhaven look at the candidates qualifications very closely and don't base their decision to vote for a candidate based on the number of yard signs they have placed. I think the yard signs have gotten out of hand and should be on the agenda for our new officials to address.

OK I'll try again.
I prefer the hard-headed guy I know who has worked hard to improve life in this district to the one who has done nothing but invent a new layer of government here.

A Resident, See, I'm a small business owner in the construction industry - work with a lot of men and sometimes these blonde curls aren't taken too seriously. When JIm and I disagree, it becomes a discussion and I don't always lose...which is really something since he has a superior knowledge of all things municipal. He listens.

I've seen him go toe to toe with a real estate attorney over a spot zoning debacle - he was brilliant. Did he play nice, not in eyes of the owner, but he was defending the harmony of lifestyle for a disabled resident and an entire street within AP over a noisy start-up business. He won, using his knowledge of codes and laws and the conviction that long time residents take precedence. I kind of admire people with strong convictions and I really admire people like Jim, that have that plus an open mind.

So you see, these opinions you write as definitive statements - he is this, he is that, aren't very helpful as I can give you multiple and actual examples proving otherwise.

@Erica, we clearly have different experiences with Jim. I also have specific examples where we were involved in zoning and planning committees together. I found him to knowledgeable, but completely unprepared to modify his position on an issue, despite good arguments and opposing points of view. I'm not questioning his knowledge, I just have a different personal experience on Jim compromising. I've not seen it happen.

So you want to give District 1 full authority over all decisions?
Because voting for anyone other than Jim guarantees just such a condition.
The 'vision' of those who decided this new layer of government is absolutely necessary (possibly because it gives them an opportunity to elective office they would never have otherwise earned) is just as flawed as it was when mikey had his first public meeting at the church.

You are completely out of line. Jim does work with others and has shown so many times. Did Russell Mitchell work with Ashford Park Civic Association or Drew Valley Civic Association during his time at CNDB? Why not? Were the people of district 2 not worthy of their input?
What is with the budget of 53 police officers in the CVI study? District one is sure to be fine, but our communities will be the one that suffers from the police shortage is Russell Mitchell is elected.
Our District 2 Council member first and foremost needs to represent the residents of District 2. Russell Mitchell turned his back on this community in the past. How can we trust him going forward?
If Russell Mitchell is taking donations from vendors that he will have to sit and judge on? Don’t even try to equate legal with ethical. One has nothing to do with the other. What is worse, Russell Mitchell taking the donations or acting like it is OK? He obviously has an agenda and that does not coincide with the best interests for the residents of District 2.
We need a good leader for district 2 that will represent our communities first and foremost. We don’t need a representative whose priority is attached to J. Max/Mike Jacobs puppet master.

"My way or the highway" is almost how I would describe the Brookhaven Yes/C$ND/Jacobs/Milar crowd. It is closer to "Our way, because it is the only way and we know what is best for you, so shut your hole and play along or else."

You do realize that if the sales people of the city had of offered up some concessions that the city may have gained a much higher level of support from the community and actually strengthened it. But because of their "Our way, because it is the only way and we know what is best for you, so shut your hole and play along or else." attitude, they effectively destroyed the community that used to be. Some of the simple concessions were:

A name change to something descriptive of the area while preserving the brand/mystique of Brookhaven.

A slower process---for instance holding off the vote until the general election or even better waiting a year to allow people and the community to come together and learn about the benefits of cityhood instead of being forced into a decision.

If these simple concessions had of been made by those making the sale, do you think that support for the city would be higher? Do you think that the campaigns would be nicer? Do you think that there would be less anger towards your neighbors? Brookhaven is fast on its way to New Government: How not to create it....from the experts.

Bill you have got to be one of the most sniveling people in town.

You've always trashed Brookhaven yet you've signed that piece with the one sided data supporting the Chamblee Annexation.

The Brookhaven name issue is stupid. So what a few millionaire homes don't want to water down the name. Get over it. What other name works as well.

Bill,
It would have been nice to stretch this process out and determine what was BEST for everyone, but that was never the intention.
At the same time, I am surprised that the former yessers are shocked that their candidates aren't being welcomed with sweets and flowers.

And B4U, read the Police RFP, there is NO suggested number of Police officers.

residue,
Well, I guess this is a place where we disagree.

Phil this is so untrue. There was plenty of time to try to do it the right way. To use a BrookhavenYes, "Fear Mongering ways of a Yeser"

Phil.
Such the clairvoyant. And so full of wisdom. Thank GOD himself you are here in Brookhaven with us.

Phil is exactly right. There was another reason for not waiting until 2013- if we had then the NO strategy would have morphed from "what's the rush" to "the CVI study is out of date and needs to be redone". And raising another $30,000 for a CVI study was not going to happen. You will remember that they even tried that "study is out of date" tactic when the study was 9 months old.

And frankly, if someone was not engaged enough to get educated about cityhood in the 9 months between the study and the vote, with all the various meetings held around town, forums, op-ed pieces, etc., then they were not going to be engaged whether it was 2 years or 5 years until the vote.

""Fear Mongering ways of a Yeser"--Brookhaven4u

As in fear and loathing in Zombieland.

It has been amazing how he and other B'Yes Sirs have gone to protect the MxGov, and not Brookhaven, much less Georgia and the USA, in even the episode of this
cityhood. To even threaten others with Mx's so-called police (including stateside):

Ex: Under the subject "Police Chief Hopefuls Need Not Apply...Yet "

don Gabacho

1:37 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012

"'JD Clockadale, the commission member who co-chairs the police committee said,...'”

Welcome to corporatist governance."

Phil

2:03 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012

don Gabacho--Maybe you need to turn things around and move back to Mexico to keep an eye on THEM. Instead of THEM keeping an eye on you.

THEY will never suspect that you would be that clever. Make sure you keep the light timer on so they think you are still in the house.

Welcome to corporatise governance, por favor.