"Their collective goal AGAINST YOU: to deny your right to vote on a City of Brookhaven.---PkCk

You are being flagrantly disingenuous.

The "right to vote" implies freely and with confidence in the integrity of the process.

The "right to vote freely and with confidence" implies balloting and tallying, on an issue regarding governance, being administered by a "Balloting Committee" that would not consider, much allow, a voting place that is also and primarily a government locale---in this case "Chamblee City Hall".

"The right to vote" also implies a vote clearly mandated by the people and not any government's legislature---especially a legislature which has such total disregard for conflict of interest to have allowed, much less acted upon, a proposal by a fellow congressperson who himself sat as a member of any initiating so-called "citizens committee"; and, like this "Balloting Committee," allow a government locale involved in the issue be a voting place on the issue.

Yet again: "Who is this Ballot Committee?"

As far as Parent?

She is "endorsing Dax Lopez"?

According to Dax Lopez's own campaign flyer, so is "Sen Jim Tysinger, Sen Fran Millar, Rep Mike Jacobs and Rep Tom Taylor."

Despite Parent's label and your post, a member of the same charade.

A jalapeño for the Gespatcho's logo... El stupido loco is he.

10:32 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

"A jalapeño for the Gespatcho's logo... El stupido loco is he." ---Dr. Mutt

What do you doctor? Hoyos de topos?

"In addition to fighting against you under the gold dome..."

Name one clearly authentic "citizens committee" that petitioned anyone "under the gold dome" to have a referendum for a new city?

And not any single so-called "citizens committee" so demonstrably disregardful of "conflict of interest" to have perceptibly fronted the so-called petition for a regiment of legislators to ultimately result in even a so-called "Balloting Committee" equally disregardful?

Are you, by your posts, not part of the charade?

El Gespatcho likes to use the NO CITY CON THE PEOPLE PLAYBOOK

"El Gespatcho likes to use the NO CITY CON THE PEOPLE PLAYBOOK" ---Dr. Mutt

Where do you find the following in any playbook??

http://bit.ly/nkqBuS
http://bit.ly/odEZbI
http://bit.ly/nWDzCU

"The first action item in the county’s disgusting “Items to Support Brookhaven’s Opponents”---PkCk

Even the "opponent" you cite is straw-dog.

Back to DECA! Sad, sad, sad....

Ms. Parent is too close with the entrenched DeKalb Democrat bureacracy, and just like the NOCity is in their pocket.

Dean,
Could it be that Elena represents her constituency?
I realize that concept is foreign to you guys but REPRESENTATION is different from selling out.

Because of the NEGATIVE NUMBERS attending to such a fool's errand would create.

More 'big news' from the yesser campaign company.

The AJC endorsing ANYTHING doesn't help its cause in many people's book.

While Rosetta Stone, and its "Robo Calling," should be cause for alarm in anyone's book.

As proudly advertised:

"State Rep. Mike Jacobs
ATTACK CALL"

http://www.politicalecalling.com/voice.html

Please click play

police protection:

The County/NOCity Democrat backers are providing false numbers, police patroling Brookhaven could easily increase with incorporation.

Taxes and finance:

DeKalb County just jacked up property taxes in unincorporated DeKalb by 26% in 2011, if for some crazy reason Brookhaven doesn't pass, the county has clearly given us years of experience in how they continually mismange governance.

Ms. Parent, NOCity and their backers are part of a conspiracy with the entrenched DeKalb DEMOCRAT bureacracy to try to scare Brookhaven citizens away from what is best for us.

Mr. Fox is biased, he feels his neighborhood was mistreated early in the process of Broohaven incorporated, so despite his neighborhood being completely removed from the footprint he has continually whined about Brookhaven.

Zoning, and land use decsions, will be controled by 5 locally elected officials, and a Mayor. And not Kathy Gannon and her cronies who only want contributions from developers to fund their campaigns and existence! without zoning power they ahve no real power in north Dekalb and they know it!

Been to Sandy Springs lately: so many nice civic improvements: wide 8 foot sidewalks, that are landscaped with trees, and plants, that include light posts & benches! All to a high design standard!

Dekalb you are lucky to get a 5-foot wide uneven sidewlk! Brookhaven wants local dollars for local improvements like a Community Improvemnt District, such a vast concept Mr. Fox? Only 12 percent of the tax money stays local. The reamaining 88 percent will still fund your friends & families traditional pensions and the Bloated Dekalb Govt.

Chamblee doesn't want you Jordan. Your neighborhood is a net cost. The only annexations will be areas that are commercial. In other words, Perimeter Center will go to Dunwoody but none of the neighborhoods.

If this doesn't pass, we're an island among better run cities and yes, your property values will decline signfiicantly.

Jordan, nothing has been determined about how many police officers will patrol brookhaven. You are falling for the NOCity Democrat falsehoods.

From BrookhavenYES:

DeKalb County and its coordinated “No City” Campaign are trying to convince you that “DeKalb has 1.7 officers per 1,000 residents. For Brookhaven this would mean a police force of 83 officers.” This is direct quote from their campaign materials.

This is a false statement. DeKalb has nowhere near 83 officers, and nowhere near 1.7 officers per 1,000 residents, allocated to our area.

Last week, we showed you that DeKalb County inflates their actual police numbers (click for article). Specifically, we published watch sheets (click for PDF), or officer schedules, from the North Precinct.

The watch sheets reveal that the 49,000 residents of the proposed City of Brookhaven have had no more than 3 to 5 officers patrolling our area and answering 911 calls on many occasions.

Don't spread falsehoods Jordan, don't wish harm on your neighbors in Brookhaven because you feel slighted about how the movement was started.

Dean,
You might want to use a little more accurate headline:

From the Paying Contractors Who Want to Be in the Pocket of Taxpayers IF They Can Invent A City of Brokehaven!

Since NOCITY has been proven to be DeKalb Democrat bureaucracy backers you are in the "back pocket" of the county, we know you are biased Eddie.

Typical Daddie Eddie radical, unhinged agenda... Iran and Syria would love you... Our best bon voyage to you!

That Parent suggests the city would be starting at a deficit is deceitful at best. In the CVI this surplus was allocated toward increasing the parks budget by approximately $800,000/year. The CVI also excluded any potential revenue from Brookhaven Center, which will add over $450,000 to the first years revenue and increase to approximately $2 million over the following 5-year period. Miss Parent knows this, and she is hoping that the voters stay uninformed. Make note, not one the anti city characters on this board will chose to acknowledge these revenue facts and/or have a legitimate argument against it.

So, you are part of the Chamblee annexation and aren't even involved in the cityhood issue? Why the hell are you commenting? Go into Chamblee and be done with it. But I can see how you don't want to be a part of Dekalb County - why not let the rest of us be able to do the same?

Chamblee is rumored to be having 2nd thoughts about this annexation. It will be interesting to see what happens with those plans after the City of Brookaven vote is final.

And Failed!

Boycotts of small, tiny biz's can make a small, tiny biz fail...

You and Hambuger clearly operate using the same talking points. We'll see you in Brookhaven on Wednesday...

What about all of the broken (or never promised) Dekalb items? Parks, sidewlaks, trails, trees, a good sign ordinace, code enforemment so many quality of life things?

The City of Brookhaven will be a big HOA so to speak - and while some people don't liike that, it will make the community nicer, look better and improve proerty values good for all of Dekalb!

" The notion that I shouldn't comment or care because I don't live in Brookhaven is absurd..."---Jordan Fox

Jordan, when Central Authority has it that no one in unincorporated areas of DeKalb can be allowed to even vote on issues concerning areas of unincorporated DeKalb being surrendered to the appropriation of Central Authority, then does it not follow you are not allowed to comment or care?

Obviously another example of---how did PkCk put it?---DeKalb County trying to deny you your "right to vote"---and thus any right to comment or care.

Got it?

Hmmmm... A loco herb speaks As if it has mucho knowledge... But alas el Gespatcho you have none...

Rep. Jacobs by law cannot be an elected leader in Brookhaven. He did his part by shepherding through the Georgia Legistation the bill to allow for a vote.

The NOCity Democrat group has tried to make him the scapegoat here, but it is just part of their "Politics 101" as their leader calls it. It is unfortunate that anyway has fallen for their deceptions, but it will be all for naught after we pass Brookhaven tomorrow.

"The fact that Jacobs has gone silent the past couple of months, speaks volumes."

It doesn't "speak volumes."

It screams volumes.

Jacobs (and his perceptible telemarketer, then, also a member of C4ND) went immediately silent after I, in response to one of his posts, had challenged him for his "total disregard for conflict of interest" and yet again challenged and responded to his "[but] I am a citizen too" post.

Being a lawyer, he knew his position was untenable. He knew he can be (and still) disbarred.

C4ND then morphed to BY which, at least publicly, removed their names as members from essentially the same so-called "citizens' committee" of BY.

It didn't stop Max Davis, a lawyer also, from staying on the committee.

His going silent also must have been considered too alarming.

"Rep. Jacobs by law cannot be an elected leader in Brookhaven."---Dean

You are deflecting the issue of Jacob's "conflict of interest."

He cannot be both a representative of his district and on a (so-called) "citizens' committee" (supposedly) lobbying representatives with (supposedly) their petition.

As both convoluted and audacious as he allowed it: to even author a proposal in lieu of the "citizen's committee's" authorship---and a clearly genuine "citizens' committee" at that.

el Gespatcho's meds are NOT working to alleviate an intense obsession with Mike Jacobs.

No I'm not, however, he was much more vocal on his website, on the Brookhaven, GA Facebook page, in the media, etc. until Deal signed the bill. He has gone pretty much silent since.

Jacobs created this monster. Tomorrow you're voting on creating Jacobshaven.

Very disappointing you fall for the NOCity/DeKalb Democrat talking points Mr. Fox. Personal attacks and FUD are "politics 101" to these people, you shouldn't propagate them.

Dean, over the last week to two weeks I have seen far more personal attacks from the Yes side than the No side. They have intentionally mislead voters by filing ethics complaints against DeKalb County and then group all of the "No City" camp in with the county. Not everyone against the city is pro-DeKalb! Not by a long shot. The Yes side knows this, but they are misleading voters to think the No side is all aligned with DeKalb County.

So in your mind, we should just ignore it when the county violates the law? No wonder you are happy with Dekalb status quo!

"Very disappointing you fall for the NOCity/DeKalb Democrat talking points Mr. Fox. Personal attacks..."---Dean

Jacobs attempted the same defense. Followed, like a rehearsed and interminable chorus, Stan Segal and Max Davis.

Holding public office, Jacobs is subject to public scrutiny in his manner and conduct of his---our---public office; and, when found wanting, as in holding a position of "conflict of interest," liable for being so described.

Your charge, as was his, that such public scrutiny is "personal attack" is as maliciously and anti-Democracy as everything you and this C4ND/BY you have ever been able or even willing to come up with in your, and their, determination to impose this new city.

Second-stringer Jordan Fox just got the wind knocked out of his sails, with HamBurger and Eddie E. thankfully providing readers with a respite from their antics.

All schmucks with a pen (DeKalb taxpayers) will fund yet another County lawsuit. Pat Pope case is up in the millions, CEO Jones discrimination case was big bucks, and this case will be expensive too.

Joe,
Well thank you for playing.

But you are right on the case of pointless lawsuits brewing.
The yessers who aren't contractors or consultants are attorneys and there is money to be made.

Hi ya Eddie,

There is always money to be made with and about government, be it State, local or Federal... You being all up on lobbying for your trade org, you know that.

City opponents have spent a lot of time 'shadow lying.' Posting a consulting firm, contracted to a local city, and a pro-city campaign donor. Those facts do NOT constitute an indictment for corruption, and opposition political operatives KNOW that.

They just want people to go, "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm," by spreading suspicion.

One aspect of cityhood is that they are scaled to a size that virtually every decision is posted online, open and transparent, for full public view. DeKalb has so much more to follow, makes it hard to keep track of everything, even if you wanted to do that.

This is an important decision, prioritize which facts are important to your situation. Then get some research going on your priorities. Ask others, and then VOTE TOMORROW.

Exactly right Joe, NOCity has run a campaign of spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about cityhood in an attempt to get citizens to vote against their best interest (Brookhaven cityhood).

"Jordan, DeKalb broke FEDERAL election law. "---Roger That

While, as the Feds know, still untold US voter registration forms are being provided, and used by, the MxGov right here within the bounds of the proposed new city?

I hope so.

El Norte de Gespatcho... Well go get those voter registration forms instead of constantly throwing a tantrum about them.

"El Norte de Gespatcho... Well go get those voter registration forms instead of constantly throwing a tantrum about them---Dr Mutt

As is invading the MxConslate or its Insitute of Mexico? Plus the Offices of the SOS of GA?

Let's say I did and got them. What would stop the MxGov from being provided or fabricating more?

And you say I'm "loco"?

Supposedly we have our State Representatives. Don't we?

At least when not occupied with Pub 71.

Get your head out of that gopher hole.

And what happens to Brookhaven when it is further walled off from the rest of Dekalb by the Chamblee Annexation? Even DeKalb loses since they still have to service areas all the way up to 285 so no benefit of a more compact service area for them.

"And what happens to Brookhaven when it is further walled off from the rest of Dekalb by the Chamblee Annexation?"

Already predicted months ago: Chamblee is annexted to Brookhaven (and there's BYessers police) followed by Doraville, etc, followed by Brookhaven petitioning Cobb County to be annexed to Cobb County and accepted.

Don't worry. You'll get your "diversity office" for the MxGov's Instituto de Mexico at Brookhaven Plaza.

Yes.
Do You?

Yes!

Very salient points Mr. Quinn, thanks for your contribution.

"... townships and boroughs and those cities are still operating and providing great services to their citizens..."----Hank Quinn

First, a "township" is not a "city."

You had said you visited while in "High School" "a long time ago."

Even then, but being a High School-er, you would have missed it.

After all, who would tell you?

The property taxes ultimately provide such "great services" to drive, especially but not only, the elderly to either sell out at distress prices or eat cat food.

Recall watching television commercials there? Grandma practically purring in all the "cat food" commercials with "all the nutrients"?

Oh shut up el Loco Gespatcho! It must be difficult for you to be the illegitimate love child of two notorious NO CITY PLAYBOOK die hards.

There you are, burgerboy.

This place just wouldn't be the same without your constant misinformation and attempts to scare the community.

Hamburgular... How many times are you going to post this same bogus information? What was that? Oh, I get it, you'll post it as many times as necessary to get you to believe it....

News flash.... We don't!!! Tell Chuck Konas we said hello!

Mr. Stan, is this your platform for elected office? Which office are you running for?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

I like it, That will be a good checklist for reviewing all who qualify for office.

I might add something about sidewalks also.

Sidewalks are under the LCI, but maybe something like this:

3) commit to a pedestrian friendly environment through commitment to the Living Centers Initiative (LCI)

@Burger

Which should it be?? Will you help??

Sorry but this is plain wrong. DeKalb is providing false information about the current police coverage, the terms of the new police department will be figured out after the city passes but it is most likely there will be more police on the beat than under DeKalb's watch.

If you want the number of personnel assigned to the precinct simply call up there and speak to one of the commanders. When I asked a month or two ago there were 96 on the roster and that is not counting the investigators that work out of that precinct, seems they belong to another bureau. The precinct commander told us they put a minimum of 6 in the "foot print" per their 3 shifts and an additional robber/narcotics team. 18 officers will always be more than 14 officers. DKPD offers K9 teams, DUI team, SWAT, specialized investigators (like a speacial victims unit) and any host of other of other possible needs. The over 1000 officers the county offers is more than the MAYBE of 53 or less. A city downgrades our police service!

Two points:

#1 the North Precinct has been ordered by the DeKalb Democrat bureacracy to beef up numbers and "be seen" in Brookhaven for the past couple of months to try to fool residents, after the vote we go back to the way it has always been.

#2 Before the last few months the county had way fewer officers patrolling our area than they indicated, the new city will easily be able to provide more within the budget.

This nonsense is typical of the NOCity Dekalb Democrat bureaucracy and how they "play politics 101"

Intelligent Brookhaven voters will not be deceived.

Dean , A city means alot less police and diminished police service capabilities. A city means alot more politicians.
Both of your points are simply rumor among the yes group.

Simple wrong, Enuff. I don't know if you are intentionally lying or just repeating what you have heard but you are wrong.

"Sorry but this is plain wrong."---Dean

How can coming up with new salaries to politicians to hold new offices, instead of more police, be "plain wrong"?

Enuff Govt... Your rhetoric would be better served to the ears of Burrell and the BOC!!!

Hambugular... I can't wait to see the pathetic sign you'll be wearing as the permanent dunce of the new city of Brookhaven... and no, you aren't going to be part of the city logo...

Neither does Chuck Konas who publicly described Briarwood Park as 'nice,' at Oglethorpe University.

The crowd laughed at him, poor guy.

You know it's true, because I saw you there.

Jen, which corner is that property at? If Brookhaven happens, that's something that can finally happen.