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Oh really? Today Sandy 'admits' voting against the city, but in fact she worked closely with the people who tried to PREVENT ANYONE from having the opportunity to vote on Brookhaven. Sandy now says she opposed the rush, however if she had truly investigated the satiation, she could easily have learned the reasons for getting this done in July to avoid losing key commercial tax base to adjoining cities. But Sandy was too busy huddling with the No crowd and their buddies in DeKalb government plotting against Brookhaven.

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Sandy claims she will work hard for the city, but she did not join all the other candidates at the training sessions conducted by the Georgia Municipal Association. Sandy likes to play the ‘victim’ by pretending she and others were excluded from joining volunteer task force groups that organized through BrookhavenYES. That is a specious position – all she needed to do was send an email and show up, just like dozens of other people did. Sandy was capable of finding the list of BrookhavenYES meet & greets so she could drag her little group of city protestors to many of the neighborhood meetings. Now the volunteer groups Sandy shunned have grown into larger groups working to help prepare for our new city.

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And what is Sandy doing? She is trying to blame her lack of participation on someone else. Is that the kind of leadership we can expect from Sandy? Is that how she would interact with a city council and neighboring governments? Sandy was wrong about Brookhaven cityhood before the July vote and she is wrong for Brookhaven government now. Virtually everything Sandy Murray has done all year has tried to foster discontent and divide us. Don’t be fooled by Sandy’s guise of unity and her desperate attacks. No City Sandy is still wrong for Brookhaven.

pkck,

Set aside Myth #1, Dekalb County was not 'plotting against broke-haven', NO CITY was a group of concerned citizens and funded by concerned citizens.
Compare that against the group that 'sold' the new 'franchised municipality'.

Oh Brother. The city is here folks. Plain and simple. Let's not start off with an ethics case on day one. We have other things to get figured out...not who paid off the Mayor for their preferential consideration for contracts. These folks don't give away money with no strings attached. And J Max says "this is a good thing". Let's prove we are better than Pay-to-Play politics and cast our votes for someone who is not on the take.

Sandy stated all along that she was FOR cityhood but had concerns about the financials and the speed of which things were moving. THE PEOPLE needed more time to make an educated decision. Simply put. To have voted no as I too did, was not because I did not support the concept of cityhood. As a matter of fact I have been ALL for it - IF IT IS DONE RIGHT and the MAJORITY of the people affected have their voices heard. The other issue I had was it is a known fact that the people pushing the city wanted to run the city. To me that was telling that their agenda was not purely to serve the will of the people but to serve their personal agendas. It has also bubbled to the surface that there is already the smell of corruption by J Max Davis accepting campaign donations from potential vendors and that he thinks that "it's a good thing." The fact of the matter is that cityhood is here, so be it, and Brookhaven deserves someone who will listen to all of the people. Folks, we are better than folks taking money in exchange for support like J Max has. It stinks to high heavens and it is just plain dishonest. He is already giving Brookhaven a bad mark by doing this. Let's get Brookhaven started off in the RIGHT direction. We don't need corruption hanging around our necks. Sandy will represent our city with transparency, integrity and trust. Vote Sandy for Mayor!

And one last point Tom,
You are correct that this first season of our new city government is vital. Dishonest and underhanded acts by wanna be politicians such as J Max has demonstrated is an element the good people of Brookhaven do not need hanging around their necks. An ethics investigation would be a terrible way to start building a positive City of Brookhaven.
Thank you for your thoughts.

toms,

Watch closesly:
We will have higher taxes.
If we stick to the 'budget friendly' imaginary police number of '53' we will have inadequate Police coverage.
With inadequate Police coverage, we will have higher rates of crime (criminals are opportunistic).
As a true blood 'feverish opponent', I can say it is inappropriate to hang that on Sandy.
And last, yes she did know the facts, that's why she voted against the pointless rush to municipality.

Eddie,
Is it true that Alpharetta has essentially the same population, with much less poverty and much less crime and their police force is almost exactly twice the size of Brookhavens? Alpharetta 106 officers to Brookhavens proposed 53 officers?
Thank you.

Mr. Thomas, there you go again, injecting facts in a city based on a flawed Vinson study . . . Way to go . . .

Special hamburger and a cold Cheerwine?

Thom,
At some point do you think you could at least try to give us all the cliff notes version of your opinions?
Respectfully requested.

Mr. Telford,

Respectfully, No.

You are more than welcome to skip over anything I post.

If you want a Cliff Notes Candidate, please vote for Sandy Murray or J Max Davis.

Thom

Mr. Thom, I think you misunderstand how Ms. Sandy and the majority of folks that were not pro-city felt about DeKalb. It is not that they were for DeKalb County government and its current state, but that they knew how to utilize their government to get what they needed done. They worked within the government that they had. Were they completely happy with DeKalb? No. Did they want another layer of government to deal with? No. Many people are so blinded by their hatred for DeKalb that they would vote to become a city regardless of any question as to how successful a new city could be. And, blind to the potential for corruption based on the secrecy and speed C$ND and Brookhaven Yes were determined to foist this new city upon them.

Now that this new city has arrived, many of the NO folks are involved and determined to make sure their community is not ruined by the opportunists that forced this new city on them. This, my friend, is a good thing.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Thom,
Ok. Thanks. We will all just have to keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling.
But I do appreciate your points of view in some cases.
Thank you so much for your contribution to this spirited conversation.
Have a great day, sir.

Thom,
With all due respect. Your off again, on again approach to your bid for Mayor does not project much confidence that you are sincerely in this for anything other than "a thing to do with your time". At times you are pretty well spoken. But your message has grown stale. If you want to be Mayor, how 'bout you start telling us why you are the best candidate instead of telling us why others are not.
Just my opinion.
Thanks Thom.

Dean,
Surely you are smarter than your post makes you sound.

Mr. Thomas, Uh, no.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Let us all hope that this is her number 4 race that she loses in just two years.

Sandy was running for state rep as it was the closest government closest to the citizens at the time that wasn't any part of the county construct. Once the city became a reality, the city is closest to home and as she has been very involved in her community this was a more logical way to serve those whom she had been serving for years in one way or another. So, get used to it sir. Sandy is here to stay...and she will not be a corrupt on-the-take wanna be politician. Just my opinions of course.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Just thought you all might be interested who all the "BED FELLOWs" are.I see some big city problems on the rise in our little burg.They are going to need a much bigger bed.

Please join me and J Max Davis and your neighbors to a Meet and Greet at the home of Kate and Don Bolia (1921 Woodsdale Rd Atl. GA 30324) Monday October 28th at 7pm.

Please RSVP to Don and Kate at Don’s email (don.bolia@peachtreegovernmentaffairs.com) by this Friday the 26th.

Thank you for your support,

Kerry Witt
Candidate for Brookhaven’s 4th District

Lobbyists ! already?

I think I'll need Kool aid before I jump.

I forgot the quotation marks.

Oh - I want a job working for the city as a contractor - do I need to bring cash to J. Max Davis in an envelope, or, is he so arrogant he accepts checks and credit cards like most hookers these days?

Dear Miss FreddieK:

Everyone already knows that your cash is tainted by the special dye the bank placed on it while you were stealing it!

Sorry sweetheart, NO JOB FOR YOU!!!

Hello Henry.
Very insightful and actually pretty useless but hey, it's your opinion. That's the important part.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

T Cubed stole that handle!

Dear TTT:

Who made you the arbiter of what substantiates a beneficial vs. useless comment?

From your voluminous posts & alters it doesn't appear that you're qualified to do so!

Syruply,
Ms. Millendorf

Amen, you just left off Jim in the second is also a fitting for that Henry stated

Phil,
Thank you for your questions. It is important that we all utilize this forum to offer our opinions.
I gather that it depends on when you ask Mr Shepherd your question. Is it on a day where his campaign is on or is it on a day when his campaign is off? I think it his highly likely that he could write YOUR name or MINE in for Mayor if the timing is right. Get ready Phil. Tight up any loose ends. You may have a new career coming soon.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Phil,

My name is spelled Shepard.

Mr,. Telford,

I stated for one 24 hour period that I was going to withdraw my name from the ballot and before I was able to do so several things happened that caused me to decide not to take this action. To repeat myself, the only reason I was deciding on that day to withdraw officially was so I could participate legally as a volunteer with the Governors Commission.

The next day I stated clearly I was "suspending my public campaign" to focus on the work of forming the city. I was then, and am now, a candidate for Mayor for the City of Brookhaven. The fact that newspapers and blogs are printing things without checking their sources and verifying their facts is beyond my control. Those newspapers that had reporters at the public meetings and events and interviewed me in person got the facts correct, those that did not, failed to get the facts correct.

Thom,
Does that include the alleged newspaper from the municipality to our north that had a council candidate 'covering' the mayoral debate while obviously campaigning at the same time?
Yes, one must always question one's sources.

Dear Edvard:

I totally agree my darling! One must always question sources. For example, the Sierra Club... and it's state's political director!

It's not nice to be so underhanded... what's good for the goose as they say...

Fondly from an American Car Customer,
Ms. Millendorf

pms,
I suggest you make your point or slink away.
As for me, nothing inappropriate is occurring nor has occurred, so there is nothing to discuss.
But hey, I'm not hiding behind a bogus screen name either.

So Thom essentially you are an election spoiler.

If you are a candidate, but not actually involved in the public process, ie debates, forums, etc. you are kinda sorta running. Which means that you can get some votes and designate them via an endorsement, in a run-off, which is an almost certain eventuality.

What is it that you want?

Eddie,

I do not recall seeing anything, with respect to what I was referring to above, in the paper you are suggesting, that was incorrect.

Randy,

You are incorrect in your statement above.

While I had not had time to mount a public campaign in the way I would have liked, due to an investment in time participating in Governors Commission meetings, as of Monday I was confident enough in the work they have accomplished with respect to the RFP's, and the implementation model they chose to follow, that I did rather publicly re-start my public campaign and participated with enthusiasm in the third Mayoral debate at Brookhaven UMC.

Thank you again to our host Pastor Sara Webb Phillips and our moderator Esther Graff-Radford.

Further I have been extremely involved in the public process and I expect I know more about the very important work of the Governors Commission Committees, down to the nuts and bolts level, than any of the other candidates.

While I have admittedly not mounted the best public campaign, I can confidently say at this time that I am the best candidate for Mayor for the future City of Brookhaven.

Sandy Murray's last mailout, with the doctored picture of J. Max and the J Max tip line and half truth's was disgusting and representative of her style of posting
"Trust me" those Yesers say! HA!"
"But oh goody! There's a big pile of money to play with!"

That mailout was not something a potential mayor should be sending out under their name.

For a someone of her age who seeks to lead a city she should be more refined and thoughtful.

Dear Sir/Madame,
Thank you for expressing your opinions on this forum. It is important that we all do this in order to stimulate a spirited conversation. Thank you for being a stand up citizen. I am clearly in awe that you have such vast knowledge and such a handle on the world we live in. Thank you so much.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Mr. Telford you are most welcome! And thank you for your kind words of encouragement.

So many posters here are just sarcastic bitter people more interested in attacking than in discussing. They add nothing to the substance of the conversation.

So its nice to see supportive posters. Though while I appreciate your encouragement its not really necessary. I would prefer you dedicate the bandwidth to providing substantive reasons why or why not Ms. Murray should be the pick for Mayor.

Well your name says it all, friendo! Let's ALL Make Brookhaven Great! Vote for Sandy Murray! Yay!

Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Ms. LMBG, I saw that doctored picture. Ms. Murray did J. Max Davis a favor by reducing his girth.

Regarding the mailer copy, did she misrepresent anything? Or, do some folks take exception to the truth? I guess you thought all of the Brookhaven Yes mailers were just fine.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Quite a lengthy post to state one relevant fact......

It is a shame that nobody is running against mikey.

All of the rest was just so much hooey.

As Fred Astaire said

You say tomato, I say tomato.
You eat potato and I eat potato

There sure are misrepresentations in Sandy Murray's mailout. And yes as I recall both the Brookhaven Yes and Brookhaven No mailouts in my mailbox that I looked at crossed lines - though never personal attacks on an individual's ethics and never by another candidate that claims they will unite and lead the city. Sizzle Sizzle POP POP... think its time for you to flip yourself, you're getting a little burned J

Ms. LMBG, more correctly as follows:

You like "po-tay-to" and I like "po-tah-to",
You like "to-may-to" and I like "to-mah-to";
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to, to-may-to, to-mah-to!

The Gershwin’s tune was about dialect and pronunciation, not the misrepresentation or misinterpretation of facts by Brookhaven Yes for the purpose of swaying uninvolved voters to their view.

And, I am not Jim.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

tomato/potato song was a response to Eddie.

You are being a little to literal.

Song can be interpreted as seeing things different ways. So apparently Eddie see's only one issue out of the things I listed (the fact Sandy Murray dropped out of the State Rep race at the last minute).

Sizzle Sizzle POP POP... think its time for you to flip yourself, you're getting a little burned k

And a fine Happy Hallowe'en to YOU sir!
Thank you for your contribution to this forum. Your opinions are valued and welcomed! The mailer did actually state several facts and quotes from the mighty one himself. He hath spoken...He hath been quoted....And he who is on the take should be required to withdraw his name from the contest. It's like an anti-doping scandal for athletes. Perhaps shady deals and pay for play politics and wanna be politicians on the take should be banned. These are just my opinions.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Don't vote for J. Max Davis - stop the theft before it begins! (OK - before it continues, he's already taken some)

FreddieK,
Thank you very much for your recommendation. All kidding aside, I am really concerned about the contributions. Mr Davis painted a rosy picture but never mentioned it would require us to bypass our morality and character. I would not be proud to live in a city where from day one we are portrayed as having a corrupt government.
Thank you for your comments and participation in this spirited conversation.
Have a great day!

Dear Brookhaveners:

Ms. Murray has attempted to run for political office since she lost her high school cheerleader competition!

She has NEVER prevailed in any election! But the dame keeps running to ensure that her record of political failure remains at 100%. She seems content to play in the loser pool.

Frankly, why is it that the NO crowd is supporting her? Seems there must be some money changing hands in that crowd! What a bunch of hypocrites.

Laughingly,
Ms. Millendorf

Look at who mailed it.

Chris,
Or it could be that all along, many of us were unable to make a connection between the term 'representative' and either jmaxjr., or guruthudpucker.

pg,
How did we ever make it in the County over the last several decades without those who suddenly (and irrevocably) know what is BEST for all of us.

How dare we question the intrinsic wisdom of those who so cleverly hide behind a screen name?

And yes, given the opportunity I would vote regularly to set aside the referendum foisted on us by 3 precincts.

PG, seems you misread my post. I was arguing to vote against Sandy and for those that fought hard to make Brookhaven happen. Who more has a vested interests in our success than those who worked so hard to make us a city. I support JMax, Russell and Rebecca or those who fought hard to destroy this vision.

Amazing what passes from the forced city crowd as the real stretch to compound the notion of 'ethics violation' with a filing fee.
You might want to consult Senator balfour on that.

Eddie, where is your screaming for transparency? Did you give Sandy a stern lecture about filing her reports? Hypocrisy it's best.

We understand you liberals, those rules only apply to the other people!!

Sir, Sandy's financial disclosure report has been online at the State Ethics Commission website since before J. Max decided to run for Mayor: http://media.ethics.ga.gov/Search/Financial/Financial_Details.aspx?FilerID=F2009003399

This entire affair is a red herring intended to distract voters from the real issue here -- J. Max Davis has taken tens of thousands of dollars from potential city vendors and lobbyists who are looking to profit from the taxpayers of Brookhaven.

Brookhaven Yes, Inc.
Calvin, Giordano & Associates, Inc., 1800 Eller Drive, Suite 600, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316
$5,000.00
Mr. Russell Mitchell worked for them at Dunwoody, right?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Dear Hamburger,

Actually it was two contributions for $5000 for a total of $10,000.

Get the mustard yourself :-)

Thom,
I love you man

FYI I posted a few other references under another article about the Governor's Commission RFP's: 1:52 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

http://brookhaven.patch.com//articles/brookhaven-commission-nearly-finished-with-rfps

Mr. Phil, apparently, you are an extraordinarily egocentrically narcissistic individual with no concern for others . . .

Here . . . Let me get you another special hamburger and a Cheerwine . . .

Phil Please unbutton the top button of those tight white shorts. They're cutting off the circulation to your Mikey.