Mr. Randy, thank you, GDOT has been buying up ROW for some time now. However, you would have thought Mr. J. Max or Mr. Jeff would have known this. It disturbs me that they do not know so much about this area of their proposed new city. His response:

Davis - Could you please share what you know?

Mr. Davis, I got it . . . You want another special hamburger?

If you think tspolst is going to pass: dream on! NAACP most AA and most Tea party people are against it!

http://www.fultoncountyga.gov/district-5-news (check out the June 22 link)

Regarding police helicopter, SWAT, crime lab, jail, how will this be billed? See LC for details:

“Davis - We will have complete access to a police helicopter, DeKalb County jail, crime lab, and a regional SWAT team.” How is this billed? What is the annual estimated budget?

“Kellar - UGA utilized Smyrna's police budget which funds these expenses. The reason Smyrna was used is because economically, demographically and the poverty rate numbers were almost exactly those of a city of Brookhaven.”

Understood. However, these are high dollar items and they may have been given away. It would be nice to have a value established for them as they are not going to get less expensive. Training is expensive and either you have your own specialized services or you pay for any incremental increases.

No answer . . .

Please pass the yellow mustard, thin sliced pickles and onions!

HamBurger--- you say your questions are unanswered because many were not germane. Others were argumentative and because you did n to get the answer you wanted, you still had your opinion put in the form of a question. This was a LIVE Chat--I was grateful that it did not deteriorate into a tit for tat brouhaha orchestrated by a close minded questioner. And if I hear another "Pass the mustard". (Come to think of it, when you have nothing to say, say nothing)

Mr. Phil, you are an exceptionally shallow minded person with no financial understanding of how a poorly created city will ultimately affect our area. All of my questions, with exception of my hamburger humor response were sincere and worthy of a response. Clearly, there were questions asked that the Brookhaven Yes experts were unable to answer. The most telling response was Mr. J Max’s response asking me what I knew about upcoming changes relating to Buford Highway. This is why we really may have wanted to study this new city business a lot more than has been done to date and taken more time.

Additionally, this police business is not as cut and dried as the BY folks would have you believe. If the new city passes, this is going to be a big WTF moment for everyone as the demands of a police force will strip a budget quickly.

There is no revised Vinson study and Rep. Mike Jacobs has gone into hiding! Why?

Sir, go stand in a corner for an hour and no special hamburger for you with yellow mustard, thin sliced onions, and pickles!

More personal attacks and FUD slinging from the PinkSlime Boys

Mr. Dean, in theory, pink slime is the result of extracting maximum useable meat from less desirable and fatty meat cuts for use as ground meat. However, the process, when described to the uninitiated and those not striving for hamburger nirvana, is exceptionally unsavory.

Mr. HamBurger, with his extraordinary demand for the best beef cuts and breaking down his own selected beef cuts would have nothing to do with pink slime. As such, your continued suggestions are an insult.

However, pink slime is an exceptionally well budgeted food source for prisons and county jails. Just wondering, do you know anyone associated with Brookhaven Yes that can give us a firsthand knowledge product review? There just might be a person or three . . .

Objections are fine . . . Insults? Are they really necessary?

Special hamburger and a Cheerwine?

Insults are necessary when your up against liars, corruption, strip clubs, bars, thieves, sign makers, tax cheats, greedy developers, lawyers, and "well funded opposition groups"! Eat more broccoli

This goes out to all the NO peeps too...especially hamburger and Benton. I wish you long lives in the new City!

Mr. Phil, I actually think it was a wise decision for the No City crowd to decline as Mr. Darnell had his hands full with the BY crowd as it was.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

not, (Mr. Clayton), you are not the only one . . .

Please pass the yellow mustard!

The main thing we won't ever have to hear about after July 31 is the Opposed City.

Is there a point buried somewhere in there?

Eddie,

If you're too dense to get the point, then move on!

dr. jeff,

My aren't you a representative for the 'yessers'.

Do what you are told and shut up, right?

It might be nice to have a 'chat' that included mis-Representative Jacobs and the super-secret C4ND donors so the Public could ask "Why are you doing this to us?" and the more important "What is in this for you?".
Otherwise it is just chatting with sufferers of 'big fish in a small pond' syndrome.

Kellar - The UGA study contemplates 53 full time officers and a budget of $6.4 million. This more than doubles the number of officers and budget currently provided by DeKalb.
-again misleading, it does not double the number of officers on patrol. Remember the meeting at the Holiday Inn where it was announced Brookhaven would have 7 officers on patrol. Then a week or so later the number was miraculously raised to 9 officers on patrol. The 9 on patrol only equals the current minimum on patrol with the county. The 53 officers include an unknown number of detectives, an unknown number of civilian support staff like dispatchers, executive aides, customer service personnel or even a crime scene tech. What it WILL NOT BE is double the number of officers

Enuff Govt Already, don’t ya just hate it when there is a WTF moment and the folks that WTF’ed you point out the fine print?

http://peachtreecorners.patch.com/articles/mayor-addresses-budget-questions

And folks that wonder where Rep. Jacobs is and when he will appear with his revised Vinson study are heavily criticized. Mr. Baggett says there is no time for a revised Vinson study. Mr. J. Max Davis says a revised study will cost an additional $30,000. Which is it?

There is an important decision ahead of us and we do not have all the facts from the promoters of this new city. Additionally, we have no real clue just what the yet unknown individuals running for elected office will do once they are elected! And folks wonder why I would vote NO?

Excuse me, I have to go put on some special hamburgers for lunch!

Yes please read the comments on the story at http://peachtreecorners.patch.com/articles/mayor-addresses-budget-questions

Reading reveals the lie of using the P Corners experience to indict the CVI conclusion that Brookhaven is fiscally feasible.

As pointed out in the comments P Corners's charter allowed for costs to be inflated because the Charter's millage cap of 1 mil left that room. The Brookhaven Charter's millage cap doesn't leave that room.

The complaints there are based on charges of that the mayor and council "budgeted backwards" based on the revenues available instead of budgeting to the costs that people claim they promised.

Thus the complaints range from complaints about an unnecessary call center, excessive pay for staff and other excessive costs.

And there is no need for a new CVI study. We know what the current property tax revenues are and we know that the other 75% of the revenues have gone up by an amount greater than the decline in the current property tax revenues that make up the other 25%.

A new study won't answer the question as to if more police should be added. That's something time will tell. What the study does evidence is that there is room in the budget to add police without going above the 3.35 millage cap set in the Charter.

Judging by the 'leaders' who have jumped forward assuming they would be welcomed with sweets and flowers, why on earth would anyone be driven to assume they would inclined to 'budget forward'.

I am sure glad that everything but Dun-Jilted hubris is pointing to a trouncing of this exceptionally bad idea.

With all due respect Mr. HamBurger that link is misleading. It says:
"• 6.39 mills - 59% (HOST CREDIT) = 2.6199 mills
• Brookhaven City Millage Rate: 3.35 mills
• RESULT: .7301 mills HIGHER THAN DEKALB COUNTY!"
1st I doubt we will see a 59% HOST Credit on our tax bill next year. DeKalb has only said in a back handed way that it will be increased.
2nd we know DeKalb is facing a budget deficit that it will need to make up next year.
3rd What is not undisputed is that HOST revenues in DeKalb have risen dramatically and thus Brookhaven will also see a significant increase over the 5 million dollars in HOST proceeds the CVI estimated for DeKalb based on the 2009 and 2010 HOST Proceeds.

Davis - No. Our police force will be focused on solving real crimes, like the 2 car jackings that occurred last week. They will not be a revenue generating machine.
-According to the north precinct’s social media platforms they arrested some people for a carjacking at Blackburn Park. I guess an officer was on patrol within the proposed boundaries to be on the bad guys so quick. Hmmm
http://www.facebook.com/dkpdnorth
http://twitter.com/#!/dkpdnorthprec

The precinct reported a 27% decline in violent crime and a 15% decline in property crime; looks like they were focused on solving real crime. Revenue machine-CVI estimates (conservatively) fines and forfeitures at $1.9M.
The proposed city looks like a solution in search of a problem. The sky is not falling and we do not need more gov’t.

Re burdening them some more I assume we would add to the team. I assume their is an agreement with Gwinnett for use of the truck and their folks.

Yes as noted in the Jodi's piece for drew valley's paper apparently over 30 police responded to the kid who shot himself in the butt. I kind of wonder if that many are needed. I don't know just asking. But assume with the pooled unit investigation that could happen.

re Davis' comment to be clear it was in response to a question concerned about brookhaven police trying to get revenues from ticketing. No denying that the DeKalb police are not doing a good job.

@ Eric..Considering the breaking news was a child shot at the school I'm surprised they only called in 30 additional officers. What I saw on the news were some extremely distraught parents. Imigine if that was your child's school and the police had to wait for an hour or two for agreements to kick in with outside police departments to response and organize. Do you think the couple of police a city could muster in the mean time would of been satisfactory. The county was able to get the right people there quick and determine what really happened within an hour or so.

yes Enuff i do think 6 officers would be enough as an initial response. I understand this is a very subjective opinion and understand why others would want 30 officers.

Though interestingly many of these folks who would want the 30 plus are probably the same people who want a new police force because they are mad the Dekalb Police didn't dust for fingerprints when their laptop got stolen.

I feel for the police, its a no win situation.

And frankly if it was just for the Police issue I'd be on the fence. On one hand you make a good point about the available services. On the other hand I've known an officer or two and think ... well lets just say I'm on the fence. The DeKalb Police I know are good hardworking professional people and they do a very good job.

Mr. Eric, the response with a large number of officers was due to the call being in the vicinity of an apartment complex that backed up to an elementary school. Plus, a day or three previously, in Clayton County there was an incident where an individual was shooting a pellet gun at school busses and DCPD was not taking chances as they did not know what they were dealing with.

I had rather have DCPD over kill than underpowered Brookhaven PD. But, that is just me . . .

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Eric,

The regular attention required to the areas already noted would dwarf the demands on the proposed little tiny police department.

Why try to paper over the facts?

No means NO!

Extremely interesting that the officer who actually got the Blackburn criminal was a privately hired officer of the Brittany/Lynwood park security patrol on duty with the privately funded security patrol. That's right , the 500.00 a year that these residents have to pay to get a semblance of adequate police coverage is what caught the carjackers. It wasn't our Dekalb tax dollars that solved this crime. It was exasperated taxpayers deciding to do something about the declining services and financial mismanagement and providing security for themselves and spending the dollars locally.

J. Max is there an article that says that? I mean seeing the fleeing criminals that quickly is above the level of service I expect, but what's interesting is that if it was an officer on private duty it seems to contradict the message sent to the neighborhood watch groups by DeKalb.

"officers responded to surrounding areas that presented possible avenues of escape from the initial incident location. The subjects were spotted fleeing the area in the stolen vehicle by one of these responding officers."
*******
From: Smith, Bryan
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:57 AM

Cc: Fowler, Alfred L.; Ellison, Robert K.
Subject: Re: Blackburn Incident & NNO

Three subjects carjacked a vehicle from a victim in Blackburn Park. Dekalb Police officers responded to surrounding areas that presented possible avenues of escape from the initial incident location. The subjects were spotted fleeing the area in the stolen vehicle by one of these responding officers. The suspects attempted to elude the officer and led Dekalb Police on a vehicle chase that ended in the Lenox Rd/400 area, where the subjects bailed out of the vehicle and fled on foot. The officers pursued on foot and apprehended all three subjects. No officers, subjects, or other persons were injured.

Mr. J. Max, does your neighborhood have a neighborhood watch program? If so, are you a member?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mr. Eric, just noting that Mr. J. Max never responded to your questioning whether the officer arrewsting the carjacking suspect was a DCPD or off duty DCPD providing Brittany security . . . Because they had rather pay for security than have a Community watch program? Just curious and waiting for n answer.

Please pass the yellow mustard!

my neighborhood has watch program its a real bear to manage and its mainly a system to share information after the fact. I don't think it would have stopped a car jacking. Frankly I'm impressed the Police saw these guys before they left the area. Obviously DeKalb PD put the call out over the radio so that's quick response even if the one officer was working his off duty job and listening to the scanner/radio.

neighborhood watch in my area helped solve a series of crimes because someone saw a car and gave some identifiable info on it.

BTW Dunwoody has solved the murder in the apartments on Peachtree Industrial. The murderer had been targeting folks and used a phone from a previous victim (who was not murdered) to call this unfortunate victim. I will never understand why people have so little regard for human life. Its very sad. The victim had friends and family.

Mr. Eric, a neighborhood watch program is only as good as the people (and eyes) involved. Riding around on a golf cart and barking orders is one thing, providing good neighborhood intelligence is completely another. However, it still remains only one component of a policing strategy. The information shared zeros in on the bad guys and assists DCPD in removing them from the streets. That is the ultimate goal. Right?

The abilities of the DCPD North Precinct are legendary to the folks that have dealt with them through the years. Folks that think a new city can replace this level of policing service in your new city will soon regret what they have voted out.

Mr. J. Max whines about his paying for an extra security service, yet he has no Community Watch program. Mr. J. Max, your hatred for DeKalb is evidently much greater that your planning for an accountable and successful new city. Daily, I am finding out that the folks in Brookhaven want no part of your new city.

This is an exceptionally disconcerting subject. Grill closed. You folks need to think about this one . . . I need a good John Wayne movie . . . Now, where did I put that True Grit . . .

Mr. Hamburger there is no doubt that to the limited amount of officers in the N Precinct do a yeoman's job.

But in the end we don't really need to worry. Dunwoody certainly was disappointed.

And if it turns out we need a couple more patrols for Buford Highway that's quite doable.

We aren't reinventing the wheel here.

Mr. Roger That, only those in the footprint of the new city will be voting on it. See the voting link below:

http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/Voter/CurrentElectionInfo.html

Careful for what you ask for, it maybe more than you have bargained for . . . And, you will never be able to get rid of it . . .

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Mr. Hamburger,

Do mean like 'Brookhaven, the hepes of north Dekalb'?

Roger,
That is a regular and inaccurate whine, that 'our money' goes to 'their county'.
Show me ANY documentation that supports much less proves such an inaccurate contention.
The Dunwoody whiners were really good about it, but it was a lie for them to tell as well.

Dunwoody has a nice surplus, money in the bank AND the lowest tax rate in the County! Of course they are very happy their incorporated.

Ref D'wdy surplus
Spoiler alert: In 2011 the City had $24,688,352 in revenues and spent $24,198,590, for an "accounting surplus" of $489,762. An internal transfer of $1.5M (from cash reserves) brought that number up to $1,989,762. And the 2012 budget also includes an internal transfer of $800,574 from reserves. However, if expenses are maintained the City should end up with.......anyone, ...anyone...." That's right - a "Surplus". $1.1M to be specific. In reality between 2011 & 2012 reserves will have been reduced by $2.3M.
This is not to say that our tax dollars haven't been spent wisely. For the most part (I did say "the most part") - they have. At the end of 2011 the City has $8M in cash on hand (and another $5M in receivables) to fund operations. What the City didn't experience in 2011 was a surplus!
-Kelly de Valle's blog 2-12-12
$8M in cash on hand...weren't we just told in May they had $16M on hand. Just where did the other $8M materialize?
or
http://peachtreecorners.patch.com/articles/mayor-addresses-budget-questions

Dean,
Hello. What exactly is Dunwoody's millage rate for UNINC TAX DIST ans POLIC SERV?
Curious.
TT

Dunwoody is at 2.74 (http://dunwoodynorth.blogspot.com/2011/07/2011-dekalb-county-tax-rates-shows.html) But you also have to remember it has a different commercial/residential and the millage rate is just one source of revenue.

Randy,
Dean says that Dunwoody has the lowest taxes. If you say that 2.74 is Dunwoody's City Millage (which is UNINC TAX DIST and POLIC SVC), doesn't that make Dekalb at 2.6199 the lowest? I'm confused. It's also considerably lower than the Brookhaven millage rate of 3.35 mills. Who is correct here?

If all of the data posted is correct (and for the sake of discussion I am assuming it is but could be wrong) then they are both correct. Dunwoody does have the lowest millage rate...2.74 is definitely less than 6.39. However, if the HOST credit does provide a 59% discount then the effective (but not actual) rate for unincorporated would drop to 2.6199 which would be lower than the 2.74. So, in this particular year, unincorporated would pay less money in taxes (again, assuming the HOST discount is correct). However, you also have to remember that Dunwoody's 2.74 is fro 2011 and the 2.6199 is for 2012. In 2011, Dunwoody was the lowest. I have no reason to believe that Dunwoody will decrease their rate this year but if they have the windfall from HOST, they could.

I don't know exactly how the HOST discount is calculated but I would guess that
a) it will vary year to year
b) as property appraisals go up, the % covered by HOST decreases (assuming flat HOST revenue)
c) as HOST revenues increase, the % covered by HOST increase (assuming flat appraisals)
d) as HOST revenues increase, so does city revenue.

If you do the math (as has been linked to many times over), I think the short term "less tax" argument is a hard one to make. However, 5 or 10 years down the road it may be more compelling (or may not be...only time will tell). What do you think will happen to appraised home values? Or sales tax revenue? Will either entity need to issue additional bonds?

Randy yes no one can guarantee who will have the lowest taxes on Jan 1 or 5 years from now. The 59% HOST credit at this point is merely a possibility, We know that in 2011 Dekalb while increasing the millage rate also reduced the HOST credit despite the HOST revenues from 2010 going up (in part because they increased the Capital budget funded by HOST).

We know DeKalb's current budget has a deficit and they are shifting money amongst reserves to try to meet the shortfall.

The 3.35 Charter millage cap is a cap and the council people hopefully could devise a budget that keeps the millage rate slightly below the cap. This would be especially true if the HOST credit is as large as some say. We also know that other revenue streams are likely to increase from CVI estimates.

I do think it will be easier, especially with the millage cap to prevent Brookhaven from increasing taxes than it will be with DeKalb. Though DeKalb tax increases will still hit us for services they provide.

As to bonds, we will need to pay the ones DeKalb previously issued. Going forward we can opt into or out of DeKalb Bonds. I suspect we would opt out them. I hope the city would not approve bonds, though that would be our decision.

Also keep in mind the HOST credit only applies to your owner occupied property that you reside in.

If you think about a very small portion of our home taxes would shift to Brookhaven. Most are still with DeKalb County Gov and DeKalb Schools.

And it will also affect City Service areas for unincorporated areas, lol idoit!

Eric,
Then you might want to have a few minutes of face time with the originators of the entire Opposed City concept.
Then take into consideration that November's election could give the misguided leadership of the One-Party-State the ability to enact even the most ridiculous legislation or CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT without resistance.

Of course, we could run like lemmings off the 'brookhaven' cliff and find ourselves sadly surprised after the fact.

http://www.reporternewspapers.net/2009/10/16/rep-jacobs-eye-annexation/
"He also indicated there is interest in north Brookhaven and Dunwoody in ongoing discussions about the proposed re-birth of Milton County. “There are some in Dunwoody who would like to be part of a new Milton County,” he said."

Enuff,

I think there is a quote from the 'senator of Dunwoody' on the subject as well, but I can't seem to find it.

Eddie E South Dekalb Pimp! Funny how he loves himself some Lithonia

Must watch TRU BLOOD! GO Eddie, go EDDIE.

not,
My reference was to the 'senator from Dunwoody'.
I wish the rest of the District had a Senator.

And one of the main reasons consolidation will 'never happen' is the fiefdoms across south Georgia that have been centers of power for numerous families since that upheaval in the 1800's.
Give that, why would we want to create a misguided fiefdom here in Unincorporated Dekalb County?

No means NO!

Mr. Max, I agree with you about city/county consolidation. Athens/Clarke and several other areas in Georgia have consolidated and it seems to be very effective. Why? A layer of government was removed.

http://www.cviog.uga.edu/free-downloads/95.pdf

As for you, weren’t you initially against Dunwoody becoming a city?

Mr. Eddie, believe it or not, I believe four consolidations are at the fall line and south . . .

May I have some more thin sliced onions and pickles?

Mr. Max, is this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGPxKEQdTs

Hey! Leave some thin sliced onions and pickles for me!

Probably because all the whiners are busy worrying about how they will keep their little toy cities alive without any real commercial real estate (like a mall to confiscate).

Probably bc it's 95 percent incorporated! And does not have several non contiguous service areas! Deadkalb configuration does not make sense for efficient service!

Exactly! Fulton is virtually all incorporated!

And yes, HamBurger, that was me. I told y'all I shared your position with Dunwoody, but now see that trying to work on making DeKalb, One DeKalb, is not ever going to work. So far, Dunwoody has not raised the millage rate, though we have improved services such as Police and working on a zoning re-write.

Will that work in Brookhaven?

It depends on the level of service people vote for. That is the point, right now, your DeKalb taxes go up, regardless of your vote, because 'no-low tax' votes are fewer than those who could care less about property taxes.

I support Brookhaven, and I am glad that I am able to say that the Dunwoody decision was vetted more carefully as a result of intelligent opposition.

Max

Max,
'It depends on the level of services people vote for'?
As if there had been any sort of careful evaluation of the attitudes and interests of the Citizens living in the Opposed City footprint?
A secret group of funders bought a study carefully crafted by ONE of the TWO State Representatives elected to the Opposed City footprint. The interests in the study were carefully skewed to pretend that a city could be cobbled up and somehow stay within an artificially low tax millage threshold.
Even now, the yessssers website points to providing services that cannot be fully funded within the financial constraints (so I guess at least one of the services will have to be dropped or eviscerated in order to take care of the minimum 3).
There is no CHOICE in LEVEL OF SERVICE.
The yessers know what is best for 'us'. Now we are supposed to bow to their hubris and then sit quietly should it 'win' and then self-destruct.
Madness!

@EDdieE

I 'get' your POV, but the hyperboly is off-putting to me.

First off, I personally know the lawmakers involved with this effort, as I opposed them up here. Every lawmaker is hugely self-confident or they would not make it in politics, but your reps are pretty well grounded, in my opinion.

When DeKalb was largely agricultural (look at the County seal) administration was efficient, the envy of Atlanta. A large urban county structure is less efficient in delivering local services.

The CVI study is a snaphot that showed lawmakers the legislation is feasible, as required by law. Brookhaven revenue figures have been under/over reported, but the fact remains with a City, local citizens CONTROL EXPENSES.

There are choices in service levels, or the whole concept would be moot, I respectfully disagree.

Eric,
Well, that is at least one other place where we agree, as I have no intention of leaving Dekalb.
But since I am happy with Dekalb without an unwanted additional layer pointless Government, I have no intention of voting for an Opposed City as I see no likelihood that it will improve anything.
It would give a job to many unable to attain elective office in the past, however I don't see that as an appropriate government function.

"It would give a job to many unable to attain elective office in the past, however I don't see that as an appropriate government function."
True, and i wondered if this is what would end up happening with Dunwoody. Thus far Dunwoody doesn't seem to be a platform for spouting or promoting republican ideologies. And in fact I would argue that the election of the non business and real estate backed mayor in Dunwoody's last election could suggest that Brookhaven, especially with its greater diversity, would not be reduced to merely being a soapbox or launching pad for political careers.

Though I won't say your fear is baseless.

Eric,
The last post must have been in jest.
What is the 'official publication organ' for the city of Dunwoody and who is it's publisher? What other than a loud and proud mouthpiece for the 'one party state' has said organ ever been?
Unless the bill charter could be modified to specifically restrict 'professions' likely to gain profit from the Opposed City from ever seeking much less attaining political office then you have identified one more reason that ....No means NO!

Eric,
But as for Dunwoody, I am really not interested as the confiscation of Perimeter mall and environs INCREASED my property taxes to make up the difference. Never mind, I blame Dunwoody, not the County. That is why I will drive far out of my way to purchase any item, service or meal that I might have purchased in Dunwoody in the past. Never again.

Are you saying someone from the Crier will run for Mayor or council position? Hmmmm, personally I don't see that happening. Though as long as there is not a conflict in terms of awarding the legal organ contract I wouldn't have a problem with them running. (is the legal organ contract for such a small entity very valuable? If so maybe Chamblee and Brookhaven could combine their legal organ awards to get a Brookhaven/Chamblee centric paper published? B/C GAZETTE?

Eric,
I merely mentioned the 'crier' to respond to your suggestion there is no 'platform for spouting or promoting republican ideologies', for without the official party line, it would have nothing to say.
Nor would I shy away from identifying any of the various 'publications' that have kept the Opposed City nonsense stirred up in order to pretend there was reason to increase ad rates.

Breakup of DeADkab would happen! People happy and satisfied with Deadkalb is truly funny. Corruption corruption and more corruption. Improvements, NON EXISTENCE! GUESS 3rd world low class is what you like!

Urban areas currently favor Democrats.

Dunwoody is non-partisan, but the population is largely moderate-to-very conservative.

The 'sustainability' folks love Dunwoody, they lobbied strong, early, and fast to get us green and our Trans Plan includes 'Complete Streets,' bike facilities, paths, etc.

Not a bad thing, but not free. There is an example of people choosing a service level, EddieE.

Some folks believe that Brookhaven represents 'emancipation' from Dekalb rule. I get that.

"All politics are local." - Tip O'Neill

LOL! Lowe is an intersting fellow. To say the least!

He did support and does live in Sandy Springs! :)

Whether or not he supported the incorporation of Sandy Springs (which, to belabor the point, was studied carefully for over 30 years), he certainly has the good sense to see what folly the notion of 'milton county' is.
Not entirely different from the folly of 'brookhaven, the Opposed City'.

No means NO!

I have property in buckhead and don't support Milton, but like Lowe I do support local control. Sandy Springs and the Buckhead CID. Truth is Fulton County is a top rate county and has a top rate school system. Brookhaven is tha same as Sandy Springs, why to you think Imlay likes to berate their 80 Jewish mayor. Like LOWE I support SANDY SPRINGS AND BROOKHAVEN. Oranges and oranges....

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