Jacobs Gives Details of Dunwoody Session & Reasons Why Media Wasn't Invited
State Rep. Mike Jacobs helped host an information session for Brookhaven decision-makers to offer them resources and tools as they embark on the tasks of starting a new city.
State Rep. Mike Jacobs (R-Atlanta) said he planned Monday’s informational session for Brookhaven council candidates and other Brookhaven leaders two weeks ago.
The purpose of the meeting, held at Dunwoody City Hall, was to serve as a “training seminar” for city council candidates, members of the Governor’s Commission on Brookhaven and the commission’s civilian committee co-chairs “to learn from people who were involved in setting up the City of Dunwoody and shepherding the Brookhaven Overlay District and the Perimeter CID into the success that it is,” Jacobs told Brookhaven Patch Tuesday.
What Was Discussed
During the session, attendees asked questions about the challenges Dunwoody faced as it moved towards cityhood and participated in two panel discussions, which were put together by Dunwoody Mayor, Dunwoody Chief of Police and Kim Duncan. The presentations were made by the Brookhaven Peachtree Community Alliance, which discussed the Brookhaven Overlay District and the Perimeter Community Improvement Districts, which described prospects for growth and transportation improvement.
Because Brookhaven is on a tight time schedule as it moves towards cityhood, Jacobs said he wanted to provide the candidates and leaders with more knowledge and resources since Brookhaven closely parallels Dunwoody.
Jacobs said the session would inform Brookhaven decision-makers that resources are available to them, like copies of the RFPs used by Dunwoody, so that “the wheel doesn’t necessarily have to be reinvented.”
“While there are some differences between the two cities, the reality is there no other new cities been down this road in the last four years with the same population, the same county and the same land size,” he said.
Why the Meeting Was Closed to Media
Jacobs said that because the meeting was educational, it was not subject to the Georgia Open Meetings Act. According to the Georgia Open Meetings Act, the session does not even qualify as a meeting.
According to one section of the act, “’Meeting’ shall not include the gathering of a quorum of the members of a governing body or committee for the purpose of attending state-wide, multijurisdictional, or regional meetings to participate in seminars or courses of training on matters related to the purpose of the agency or to receive or discuss information on matters related to the purpose of the agency at which no official action is to be taken by the members.”
Although Jacobs did not explicitly invite members of the public, he told Brookhaven Patch that “members of the public would not be unwelcome” if they had shown up at the event and that some people he did not recognize as key Brookhaven decision-makers had in fact shown up on Monday.
Campaign staff members nor members of the media were allowed “so city candidates would feel free to ask their questions and get them answered and wouldn’t feel compelled to perform for the media,” Jacobs said. “Having the media present would not be conducive to an educational meeting.”
Although the session was closed to media, campaign staffers and not explicitly announced to the public, it does not qualify as a “closed meeting” as defined by Georgia open meetings laws.
“Obviously, transparency is important,” Jacobs said. “This wasn’t a meeting at which any decisions were made.”
General Oglethorpe
3:53 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Greig, HamBurger, EddieE, EPU, and Bill Lowe:
Time to chime in about the parallels to Soviet style 'apparatchiks' and their attempts to control you.
In fact, this meeting was a pretty forward thinking idea for Rep. Jacobs to use some of the work previously prepared to move things along.
I am sure you will erroneously, yet uniformly agree this meeting was actually much like Malta talks whereby Party bosses divvied up post-WWII Europe.
Jordan Fox
4:04 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
General Oglethorpe, I agree with you that this is a non-story. I'm not sure why the Patch is giving it so much attention. There are plenty of other stories in the area that they can cover.
I don't see any comments from Bill Lowe on the first article about this topic, so I'm not sure why you're grouping him in. I understand that he has been critical of those leading the BrookhavenYES movement in the past, but I don't think it's fair to call him out on this since he hasn't commented on it yet.
Eddie E.
4:21 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
GO,
Is this mikey's moment to prove the 'blind hog and an acorn' rule?
Prissy Mae Millendorf, Brookhaven Socialite
6:20 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Oh my dear Mr. E:
What a funny little saying from such a funny little man. So adorable.
I must have you on my invitation list for my fun comedy soirées! You most certainly would be a hit among the diverse participants who attend.
I'll set aside two spaces for you on the RSVP list.
Fondly,
Ms. Millendorf
don Gabacho
7:52 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"In fact, this meeting was a pretty forward thinking..."---General Ogle
"Forward thinking...?"
Dunwoody officials, other city officials and state representatives---all of the same clique---have been involved at least since their Brookhaven cityhood events at Pub 71---including fundraising.
More so than any citizen-resident of Brookhaven.
Nothing "forward" about it.
idea for Rep. Jacobs to use some of the work previously prepared to move things along."---General Ogle
Moreover, It's not up to Jacobs to "move things along."
Grieg Ericsson
4:31 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Good people of Brookhaven,
Mike Jacobs is a sitting State Representative who has been hired by us to represent us, not some of the time, not when it's convenient for him, but ALL of the time. In doing so, he must carry out the charges of his constituency. Private meetings? Closed door invitation only? Whatever you may decide to call it. Quite honestly, it stinks to think these folks - no matter how insignificant THEY think these "non-meetings" are - its damned important to the people who these folks will represent and its damned important they practice what they preach and keep every bit of it open and accessible to everyone. This city was created under the pretext that we would be our OWN city. Not a copy/paste of Dunwoody which we are not.
Mike Jacobs has spoken so now its all ok? Mike Jacobs has tried to minimize what he should have explained BEFORE the MEETING took place. He comes out with a lame'o citation of the law and we are supposed to accept that as an excuse for his lack or moral fiber and character? Absolutely appalling he is carrying on as he did during the cityhood campaign. I'm sorry folks. Hate me if you will. Vash me if you must. But this is just the beginning. If we accept it now, then Katie bar the door. These guys need to remember we were sold "not the status quo" and this is exactly what it is...Status Freakin' Quo. Man! I want my Yes Vote back please!
Grieg Ericsson
4:49 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Hey Man,
Get back to fussing with Hamburger and hush.
If there is nothing to hide, then there is no reason to keep ALL of it open and up front. Remember what I said, These guys need to remember we were sold "not the status quo" and this is exactly what it is...Status Freakin' Quo. Man!
General Oglethorpe
4:50 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Greig,
I posted an example of how DeKalb County recently raised several executive salaries with a four hour notice. Either you did not see it, or found it politically unhelpful to respond.
You will have far more transparency with a local government, than you currently have with Decatur.
You are barking up the wrong tree, in search of a non-existent issue, and making yourself look like a fool. Otherwise, please do go on.
Grieg Ericsson
5:33 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
General J Max,
I wish your comments could hold as much water as your belly. Then we would really have something.
don Gabacho
8:02 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"This city was created under the pretext that we would be our OWN city."---GE
That was the rhetoric but obvious from the beginning that this would be the political clique's city.
"Mike Jacobs has spoken so now its all ok? Mike Jacobs has tried to minimize what he should have explained BEFORE the MEETING took place. He comes out with a lame'o citation of the law and we are supposed to accept that as an excuse for his lack or moral fiber and character? Absolutely appalling he is carrying on as he did during the cityhood campaign. I'm sorry folks."---GE
Obviously, he's afraid of a lawsuit.
"...appease..."---Roger That
And that, in a nutshell, is Jacobs' and his BYessers' idea of representation---and, even then, only when they have to.
"Perform for the media"?
Performers they are anyway.
don Gabacho
8:09 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"I posted an example of how DeKalb County recently raised several executive salaries with a four hour notice."---General Ogle
Relentless has been the BYessers' 'Boogie Man' rationalization of their being Boogie Men because DeKalb Government has their's.
As you demonstrate, obviously DeKalb County Goverment hasn't a monopoly on Boogie Men.
General Oglethorpe
4:51 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Greig you do realize that Patch Editor Timothy took the picture, right?
HamBurger
5:05 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Mr. General, he did. Tell me where you think this picture was taken and the date of the photo.
Please pass the yellow mustard!
General Oglethorpe
5:16 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
HamBurger,
Are you saying that was a stock photo from some other event? Usually that is disclosed in the caption, right?
don Gabacho
8:12 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"Greig you do realize that Patch Editor Timothy took the picture, right?"---General Ogle
So? You were there?
In what capacity?
General Oglethorpe
5:17 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Ahhh, I see as captioned:
"Gov. Nathan Deal's Brookhaven Commision Holds Inaugural Meeting"
HamBurger
5:23 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Mr. General, let me hear you say it . . . Let me hear you say “Mr. General says never mind”.
Please pass the yellow mustard!
General Oglethorpe
11:08 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Never mind...
Eric Hovdesven
11:05 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Odd Mr. HamBurger our posts were deleted, guess its against Patch policy to agree on things.
Eric Hovdesven
11:08 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
oh maybe they don't like the word arse
Eric Hovdesven
11:09 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
what bizarre moderating practices the patch has
Grieg Ericsson
5:40 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
People,
I have nothing to prove. I have nothing to sell you and probably nothing any of you want to buy. But what these cityhood folks told us and what made me decide to reluctantly vote yes, in hopes that there would be enough people out there who would support an initiative to hold these people to the high standards that they promised us during the cityhood campaign, is not getting off to a very good start. I for one will accept nothing less than I was promised. These promises were sold to us as absolutes. Unequivocal guarantees that "all of our dreams will come true"...and we will do this openly and honestly. So get right to it big boys and practice what you preach. The great people of Brookhaven deserve nothing less than the grandios schemes they were promised.
TomMiller
6:13 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Here is what I take issue with, Mr. Jacobs:
"Having the media present would not be conducive to an educational meeting.it does not qualify as a “closed meeting” as defined by Georgia open meetings laws.
“Obviously, transparency is important,” Jacobs said. “This wasn’t a meeting at which any decisions were made.”
You have and had a chance to decide that business as usual would not be the norm. No decisions were made, ok. Simply having the media there? YOU decided that for yourself? Why not start in a way totally unlike the dekalb co govt and INVITE the media, all of them? You know what you buy from skeptical people? Credibility.
It's one thing to steamroll political opponents on an issue. It's another to decide- on your own - why this meeting was closed.
Candidates for office- take your get ready pill because I WILL ask you if you attended this meeting, and WILL not vote for you if you keep attending them without insisting that the meetings have the media there.
Get the picture? Or is it too transparent?
Eddie E.
6:20 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Elegantly stated.
Grieg Ericsson
6:22 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Amen. So it is said. Bad business Mike. Bad business to promise one thing and deliver another. You were elected to serve us. Not deceive us. You know not what is best for me. I should be able to decide for myself. And so should everyone else. You screwed up here. Character is not something easily earned but easily lost.
Eric Hovdesven
7:29 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
" Why not start in a way totally unlike the dekalb co govt and INVITE the media, all of them? "
I got to say that I think some of these candidates would have started performing in an effort to get their name in the paper, alternatively it might have made others shy about asking a question that could appear stupid. So I do see why such a training session benefits from keeping the media out.
Bottom line we've got more candidates than you can fit in a Volkswagen. So while I expect good transparency I think if anything other than information/education was being presented at least a couple of the slew of candidates would let us know about it.
Eddie E.
11:08 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Eric,
'fit in a Volkswagen'.
That reminds me of the primaries earlier this year.
The clown car analogy just cannot be ignored.
Eric Hovdesven
11:01 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Eddie, Ha! though I only meant the analogy as to it being crowded though I agree the full analogy applies regarding the primary - BTW we were talking about the cost of having to do a runoff in Brookhaven in another thread. Am I the only one who thinks doing a presidential primary and then a general primary statewide every 4 years is a waste of money? Think about how much money was spent just so Georgia could try to be one of the states with an early primary. And then what did we do? We wasted it by being only one of two states voting for Newt. Though i got to say even Newt is better than stench*
*http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/column-on-romney-ryan-meant-as-satire-is-taken-as-fact/
Eddie E.
2:45 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Eric,
This is a situation where I couldn't agree more!
don Gabacho
8:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"Character is not something easily earned but easily lost."---GE
It can't be lost if there was none to begin with.
don Gabacho
8:19 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"It's one thing to steamroll political opponents on an issue. It's another to decide- on your own - why this meeting was closed."---TomMiller
You're beginning to get the picture, though they have no right to "steam roll" anyone---including opposition.
Welcome to 'corporatist' governance.
Grieg Ericsson
6:49 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Mike,
Next time you go to Dunwoody, ask them how their closed and private meetings worked out for them. Bonser, episode 2 under the name J Max Davis coming right up!
Emmie Majors
11:13 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Bonzer is a Bozo, she makes the Brookhaven baffoons appear believable.
Bonzer may be an example of how quickly constituents can bounce a poor rep.
https://www.facebook.com/BounceBonser?ref=ts
"E Pluribus Unum"
10:07 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Nicely stated TomMiller. Bravo!
Terrell Carstens
11:01 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
What the.... "and that some people he (M.Jacobs) did not recognize as KEY Brookhaven decision makers had in fact shown up on Monday" We ALL are citizens of Brookhaven now and are key decision makers Mike.
Also, when can I expect a response back concerning district questions that I have emailed you about back in August? You told me to contact you ANYTIME.
Also, you told me at a meeting that you would have NO MORE involvement with the new city details or formation. You were done.
Also, another meeting that you were at, you made all candidates leave and then said, "No one that voted against the city should be elected as mayor or hold city council member positions."
This is nonsense! You are a piece of work!
If city hood was on the ballot in November like it should have been, it NEVER would pass. This is sooooo wrong.
Emmie Majors
11:17 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
So many things are wrong, like petting your cat backwards or eating grapes from the produce counter.
What is your call to action? Establish a movement to prohibit summer referendum votes for any issue that affects revenue, which would include incorporation.
Blogging about it is not going to change a durn thing, but it does make you feel better, doesn't it.
Grieg Ericsson
2:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Terrell,
Please do not fret. Salvation lay within the city charter right? One could be led to this conclusion by sipping from the jug of hand stirred cool-aid. Next time you talk to Mike, perhaps he could enlighten you on his involvement with the media during the city campaign influencing them to not run stories that could be damaging to the whole debacle he was leading. I recall a quote by Rebecca Chase Williams that the CVI was "above her pay grade". Another interesting item was when Mike directed Ted Bagett with the CVI on the outcome he was looking for in the CVI Study and he told Ted to make the numbers look like there would be a tax savings for the wealthier folks in the proposed city. But you see, there's no funny business here. Just status quo. Right Mike?
HamBurger
10:43 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
One of my favorite posts about Rebecca Chase Williams:
“Then there was famous email exchange where C$ND members were scrambling to answer questions about some fact checking the Crier (Ms. Rebecca) had done. Ms. Rebecca, being a C$ND member, was involved in an email exchange where she admitted being unable to answer financial questions relating to the new city that a C$ND member should know.
“It’s above my pay grade… to figure out” was her comment in the email communication. Come to find out, the email exchange shows she was not the only C$ND member that could not answer the questions, C$ND President Doug Dykhuizen and Rep. Mike Jacobs were unable to answer the questions as well. Check out Mike’s comment in the article.
Dunwoody Crier Reporter on Brookhaven Facts “It’s above my paygrade… to figure out
http://tinyurl.com/9gsn7t9
Transparent? Not on your life. She will make an excellent district #1 councilperson! You folks deserve her!”
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Terrell Carstens
11:38 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Emmie Majors? Your real name I hope.
So cute! Missed any points? You're perfectly happy with how this is all transpiring? No intelligent comment about the substance of the post?
There is nothing here to feel better about.
don Gabacho
3:48 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"Emmie Majors? Your real name I hope"---Terrel Carstens
Prissy Emmie Lou Majors.
Emmie Majors
11:56 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I am not concerned, I know Mike Jacobs is not trying to do anything underhanded, his motives are clearly stated and I believe him.
So often we become jaded, and for good reason. This meeting doesn't concern me, on it's face. If I see sets of meetings with other cities, all closed to the media, I might feel differently.
The post follows a series that attempt to create a buzz over 'a clandestine conspiracy theory,' which is nonsense. The motives for incorporation are well known, that you choose not to believe them is OK by me. But if you want to change something, push away from the keyboard.
don Gabacho
8:29 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
" I know Mike Jacobs is not trying to do anything underhanded..."---EM
How would you know that?
As contrary to history as it is?
Are you his wife?
Why should you make a point of not being "concerned"?
Are we suppose to know you?
Exalt in your wisdom?
Emmie Majors
7:42 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
And you are..................?????????????????
Putz.
don Gabacho
3:50 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
You had said "I know Mike Jacobs is not trying to do anything underhanded...".
Again: "How do you know that"?
Eric Hovdesven
12:16 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I've got a question, not related to this but I'll put it here. Reading this article about how much Jeff Rader's district still has for purchasing Park Land from the Park's Bond funds can anyone tell me where District 1's money was spent? Is this tied up in the whole debate about whether it was "promised" to Brookrun if it was mostly allocated to that area then WHY IN THE WORLD did it all go to one corner of the district? Note this has nothing to do with the tired "they are spending our $$ in South DeKalb" as its solely regarding District 1 funds.
I also note that the part of Brookhaven in District 2 I assume will not benefit from the leftover funds in District 2, understandable and perhaps a card that should have been played by the No folks. Though it seems that money was going to go along the Lavista Oak Grove vicinity anyway.
I'm not aware of how all the District 1 money was spent, I do know that $400,000 was spent on concrete driveways for the baseball league, which was a project that came out of the blue to the surrounding community.
You know what would be nice? To have a Government Webpage that tracks Capital spending for departments like Parks especially for things like Bond Proceeds. I hope the City of Brookhaven if we ever get a capital fund up and running will create online data to allow citizens to track how the money is being spent. Dunwoody has some nice financial reports online.
Eric Hovdesven
12:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
By this article, i mean this: http://northdruidhills.patch.com/articles/oak-grove-land-owner-still-pushing-for-county-purchase#comments
Brookhaven Maven
1:14 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
To Eric Hovdesven @ 12:16pm --
Go to http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/greenspace/Acquisitions1.html and
http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/greenspace/Acquisitions2.html for details on how much of the bond money has been spent and for what acquisitions through the end of 2011.
Call Susan Hood at (404) 371-2082 for details of how the development portion of the bond and grant money has been spent. Those are not on the web site. She should also be able to tell you how the unspent portions of these funds are allocated.
Did not some of the money get used to resurface the tennis courts at Blackburn and to rebuild the Murphey Candler pool and lake?
-- The Maven
Eric Hovdesven
1:55 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Thanks BM but that list sucks. Thanks for the phone number but I wasn't really looking to call someone, I'm curious, and would like it if there was an accessible way for all citizens to keep track. Unfortunately I think its a bit of a waste of county staff time for me to individually call them with a passing interest in how the bond funds were spent. Though thank you for the contact number should something come up that makes me specifically question something.
The lake dredging was funded by federal transportation funding. Nothing else has been done to the lake other than a couple of hay like rolls placed on the lake shore. And Northside funded that small deck.
As to the pool, that renovation was done about 10 years ago, i'm not sure if that is from the Bond Money. I know around 10 or 15 years ago some bond money was spent on new lighting for the ball fields, though I thought that was an earlier bond issuance, though I could be wrong.
Regarding the list does anyone know what the "metlife" green space is? sounds like it may be in the Perimeter Center, Dunwoody portion. And Perimeter trail? not sure where that is guess its near some portion of 285 in DeKalb.
the Colonel
2:01 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
RE-POST:
ERIC – GOOD JOB SON!
WHEN YOUR MAN IS CORNERED. CREATE DIVERSION.
ASSUMING SHILLING FOR JACOBS IS PART OF COMMUNITY SERVICE?
END TRANSMISSION.
Eric Hovdesven
4:01 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Oh the Metlife perimeter Center appears to be something at that proposed TOD mega development on the corner of Hammond and Perimeter Center Parkway that was approved I believe over 5 years ago but has yet to be built. The chart says its only .01 million or $10,000 so perhaps its some right of way sliver they will landscape and thus justify calling it parks funding. Or maybe it was some sort of deal to build a pocket park .
I also see that the $330,000 for the Perimeter Trail was acquisition of parcels for The PATH Trail from Murphey Candler to Blackburn, or as they call it the Nancy Creek Trail. I thought that was all funded through the road money to widen that portion of Ashford Dunwoody when they replaced the Bridge over Nancy Creek but I guess they used some funds from this bond program to purchase part of the frontage from the neighboring properties for this road expansion that included the PATH Trail on one side instead of a sidewalk. Though $330,000 seems a bit steep.
Grieg Ericsson
9:58 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Eric,
Mr. Create a diversion:
"Terrell,
Please do not fret. Salvation lay within the city charter right? One could be led to this conclusion by sipping from the jug of hand stirred cool-aid. Next time you talk to Mike, perhaps he could enlighten you on his involvement with the media during the city campaign influencing them to not run stories that could be damaging to the whole debacle he was leading. I recall a quote by Rebecca Chase Williams that the CVI was "above her pay grade". Another interesting item was when Mike directed Ted Bagett with the CVI on the outcome he was looking for in the CVI Study and he told Ted to make the numbers look like there would be a tax savings for the wealthier folks in the proposed city. But you see, there's no funny business here. Just status quo. Right Mike?"
Emmie Major
12:43 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Groggy a'Grieved Greig:
Glad you could join mopey-burger and me, honey. Has your Ambien worn off and did you already have your spam and eggs? Make sure you have enuff Depends and that you have read the Daily Kos, Pravda, and seen RT news before you comment.
WE don't want you to pish on everyone's day on an empty tummy-tum-tum, do we sweet-boy? It's never too early to have a good stiff shot, BTW, we don't judge.
May I suggest you help HamBurger, he/she/it had a tough time last night and comments seem a bit off key today. Hammy is not used to positive energy and civic engagement, makes he/she/it's buns all soggy. So'kay, HamWad, we appreciate a good grouchfest, reminds us of how nice things are.
Emmie Majors
1:36 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Thanks Professor Maven....
Terrell Carstens
1:46 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Eric - Check out Code Section 363111.1
It doesn't explain how the funds were spent but it does lay out the process for transfer of any funds remaining that are associated with prior bond issuances.
the Colonel
1:59 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
ERIC – GOOD JOB SON!
WHEN YOUR MAN IS CORNERED. CREATE DIVERSION.
ASSUMING SHILLING FOR JACOBS IS COMMUNITY SERVICE?
END TRANSMISSION.
Brokenhaven
4:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Mr Burger
I'd like one medium rare with $2.00 worth of no onions.
I should probably take my kool aid with it it too.
Brokenhaven
4:45 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Time for the Cool Aid
Brokenhaven
4:47 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I keep getting rejected guess I'm not cool. Aid to drink
Enuff Govt Already
4:48 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Isn't Dunwoody City Gov't embroiled in controversy over a closed door meeting?
Emmie Majors
10:20 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Embroiled over an unauthorized leak from a legitimate executive session. Lawyers will spin anything, but the meeting was not protested at the time.
Hardly the same thing, even on your Planet Anarchy.
HamBurger
10:26 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ms. Emmie, so, how much was the tab for that little leak that the “Smart Peeople” had to pay for?
Special hamburger and a Cheerwine?
HamBurger
10:43 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ms. Emmie, well . . . According to this blog the amount is now close to $100,000. This is a lot of money even for “Smart People”!
http://tinyurl.com/92b9npm
Special hamburger and a Cheerwine?
Emmie Majors
10:45 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
I dunno and don't care, it doesn't affect me.
Why is it important, since Brookhaven isn't Dunwoody? Can't have it both ways...
BTW, people are tremendously fallible, Brookhaven will experience missteps, mistakes, because of human frailty. Unlike the County, where a job is considered a 'right,' Brookhaven can replace a City contract employee for failure to perform with a phone call.
If an elected official fails to perform, Brookhaven citizens can judge that action, either in the form of an ethics compliant, or at the polls. Elaine Boyer got $20K sent to Lakeside Boosters, by Sembler. Lakeside Boosters is Elaine and her husband. Anyone ever call her on that?
HamBurger, your thinking is like an intellectual grease spot on the kitchen floor of life, dark, stinky, and unwanted. Keep up the negative banter though, it will cause the process to be as sharp as it can be.
Those who take charge will always know HamBurger-ites are ready to pounce at the first appearance of impropriety, which ought to keep them honest.
HamBurger is always ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Emmie Majors
11:12 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Yes, Ham, that is expensive, but try the cost of ignorance.
You are disingenuous and have been from the very beginning, you are a County apologist and you won't acknowledge that the concept of large County government services can be performed better and at a lower cost.
Last night I heard you are a candidate for Brookhaven office from several attendees. WOW, ain't that some meat-balls?
HamBurger
11:13 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ms. Emmie, now Dunwoody has a city government with improprieties as well as a county government that could use some attention.
I wonder . . . You think the “Smart People” are real happy about that wasted $100,000? And, who did the fired attorney work for? Would that be the same firm that will ultimately work for Brookhaven?
Please pass the yellow mustard!
HamBurger
12:09 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ms. Emmie, yes, I see where several people have alluded, through a yellow mustard connection, that I may be a mayoral candidate that serves his mother’s chili recipe with yellow mustard! Isn’t that sweet?
Also, regarding your comment about Dunwoody, “Yes, Ham, that is expensive, but try the cost of ignorance.” It appears that this was “Smart People” ignorant government at its best. And, one of the players worked for a firm that was a major contributor to Brookhaven Yes and will surely be working for Brookhaven!
Schweet! Please pass the yellow mustard!
Grieg Ericsson
12:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie,
Please refrain from your ignorant rants.
Brokenhaven
4:55 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Who woulda thunk something like this could happen in our unfair city?
Grieg Ericsson
5:00 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Brokenhaven,
If you would like J Max can provide you some soothing chili with Yellow Mustard.
WAIT A MINUTE HERE! Yellow Mustard? What a coincidence!
Filltheshill
10:23 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Yup! Was that the weirdest thing you ever saw? All this talk of yellow mustard on the patch and a mayoral candidate ends up serving his chili with yellow mustard? Kind of makes you wonder just who is who on these doggone forums. Even more troublesome, just who is really running for office!
Grieg Ericsson
11:23 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
And even more irony that J Max, (AKA Mustard Pusher) was stationed right next to the port-o-potty. The only place more appropriate would have been IN the port-o-potty. Head first. Mustard anyone J Max?
TomMiller
5:08 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Before you think it's only this side of town:
Clayton: http://www.news-daily.com/news/2012/sep/18/boc-could-choose-more-openness/
Dekalb Schools: http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/report-dekalb-schools-closed-doors-to-meeting
Augusta: http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/golf/2012-09-05/fate-patch-air-after-proposed-lease-deal-falls-through
Athens: http://peopleforabetterathens.org/athens-wal-mart-timeline/
They can try to have their closed door meetings- but you have to hold them accountable.
What is this I am hearing about a potential write in candidate or two or three? Am I the only one who has heard ?
Eddie E.
6:03 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
The ballot will have a space under every office for 'write in'.
Stir up those willing to have this millstone around their neck for 1-4 years.
Brokenhaven
5:11 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Ready to move. Wanna buy my house while my taxes are still low. District 4 has nothing at all to gain. No pool no park no library
Brokenhaven
5:13 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Ready to move. Wanna buy my house while my taxes are still low. District 4 has nothing at all to gain. No pool no park no library.
I forgot
PROMISES oh yeah.
A Resident
7:53 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I'll buy your property just to get rid of you.
Eddie E.
11:24 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
aresidue,
I do believe you have already bumped up against you limit.
Please try again in a few years.
Grieg Ericsson
11:24 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Resident of A,
Save your money. Youre gonna need it in fantasy land.
Eddie E.
7:58 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Credit limit.
Brokenhaven
8:23 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
On second thought I'll stay. This whole ordeal has the making of a great comedy . Just listening to the ramblings of the Lemmings as they are being led to the promised land.
Emmie Majors
10:33 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Arnand Thacker website: http://brookhavengeorgia.org/
is a one-stop to find out more about who is running for what. I am pleased that a private citizen has done this.
Has Patch done anything like this or even promoted site visits?
Kiri Walton
3:40 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Hi Emmie!
Yes, Patch has reported on Brookhaven Cityhood every step of the way. You can find all the articles in one place: under the "News" tab at the top of the page. Just click "Brookhaven Incorporation." I think I may even make it a mainstay on the homepage for people to use as a resource. Arnand's website is a great resource as well. Great job, Arnand!
Political Gadfly
10:49 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
General Oglethorpe
3:53 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
In fact, this meeting was a pretty forward thinking idea for Rep. Jacobs to use some of the work previously prepared to move things along.
General, I salute you and agree with you that this was a very smart move on Rep. Mike Jacobs part. It another move to put those Vote No.org people in their proper place ! On the outside looking in, see Gary Meeks Corner's new zoning in the not too distant future. Yeah I know, shame on me for not turning the other cheek. I'm not alone with this train of thought. I guess I got tired of the Vote No people stealing and throwing away my Brookhaven yes signs. Yes I know it went the other way too.
Emmie Majors
11:05 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
I really wish there was a way to speak to some of the concerns people have and offer them some comfort that their worst fears are simply that - a projection of what might happen, based on what they are used to with the status quo.
Eddie E.
11:27 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
PG,
Just who all are you threatening?
Is a new oath of allegiance to the tiny minority who managed to sway an election now required to continue carrying on normal life?
don Gabacho
4:00 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"...a projection of what might happen, based on what they are used to with the status quo."---Prissy Emmie Lou Majors
Really? I don't know anyone in Decatur.
I sure know Jacobs and clique though.
"Underhanded"?
Do you mean when they are playing nice?
Political Gadfly
10:55 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Dear Georgia Mom, sorry if the above post sounds too bellicose. I just came from blogging on ESPN. The posts on the Brookhaven Patch are pale in comparison to the ones on ESPN. There are sick people there that said that they were glad went Joe Paterno died as well as the deaths of other sports figures as well. ESPN has teenage posters all the way to college professor, engineers, lawyers and doctors. You just never know who will be posting from minute to minute. Please hang in here with us. Thanks.
Political Gadfly
12:03 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"a projection of what might happen, based on what they are used to with the status quo."
Amen.
Emmie Major
12:30 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Thank you.
There is a super-cynical part of me that wishes to believe HamBurger and his/her/it's acolytes want to see Brookhaven fail, they really do, and they post here to promote that failure.
Why?
There are rumblings that S. DeKalb and Tucker want to incorporate and Brookhaven's inability to follow the successes of other new cities would stymy that effort.
At least EddieE admits all he wants to do is change his Complaint Line speed dial to a local Brookhaven number. I wonder if his posts will record better service and more effective service with Brookhaven?
Eddie E.
3:17 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie,
For me at least, you are correct.
That 10 percent of the population of our area decided to make a mistake suddenly makes me want to grab on with both hands and slide off the cliff?
Of course I have to remember, some people voted for bush,....twice!
Political Gadfly
12:15 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
J. Max Davis couldn't be HamBurger, no way. Any one who passed the bar exam couldn't dumb himself down to get to the level that Mustard Man blogs from. Yes I know I'm not supposed to end a sentence with from, but what the heck, it's Friday.
Political Gadfly
12:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie Majors also commented on Jacobs Gives Details of Dunwoody Session & Reasons Why Media Wasn't Invited.
"Yes, Ham, that is expensive, but try the cost of ignorance. (Copy edited out). Last night I heard you are a candidate for Brookhaven office from several attendees. WOW, ain't that some meat-balls?"
Dear Emmie, say it ain't so. I'd rather vote for one of the "walkers' from The Walking Dead TV series that's flimed here in Senoia, I believe. One thing is for certain, The Walking Dead series has added more money to Georgia's economy that HamBurger has. Mr. Mustard you sure are a great guy to mess with, I'll give you that, friend.
To respond view the comment on Patch.
HamBurger
12:35 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Mr. PG, stop by and get yourself a special hamburger and a Cheerwine some time . . . And, do you want some yellow mustard with that chili?
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Emmie Major
1:08 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Best Comment Ever:
"Mr. Mustard you sure are a great guy to mess with, I'll give you that, friend."
He/she/it certainly is a hoot, a regular pipperoo, a comedy in search of a tragedy, a veritable font of all things DeKalb being good.
I do not want any doubt that my rep is capable and has an attitude that Brookhaven CAN BE a great new City. In my opinion, Jim Eyre is not that Rep.
Sorry, Jim, your OU performance, coupled with such strident opposition makes me question your motives. You could turn out to be the 'no' vote to every 'yes' out of sheer spite, in my opinion.
Grieg Ericsson
2:14 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie, (Russel Mitchell)
Thats just like...your opinion man. Go do another bong hit and hush!
"E Pluribus Unum"
12:45 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie, the burden of proof to deliver on the big bold promises of a new city, higher services, lower taxes, more ethical and responsive leadership, lies squarely with the Yes organizers. Now, please convince me this will happen. I am for all of these outcomes if they can be achieved. My heartburn has been the non-inclusive, non-transparent, lack of community education, the rush job and hijacking of the political process using flawed data. Why should I trust anything the Yes leaders are saying? Please convince me these bodacious outcomes will occur? What will your rationalizations become if not realized? How confident are you it's going to happen? What %? Several questions pointing to burden of proof. Convince me.
Emmie Major
1:00 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
EPU I have read your comments over the months with mild amusement, but more often, with candid appreciation that a closed mind is incapable of new ideas.
You are right we have 'big bold promises':
- New city. Well that much is easy, Brookhaven is planned to start, and I would be surprised if that fails to materialize.
- Higher services. More like improved service levels, but let's not quibble with words. Each new City has done this, unequivocally. Big items like cleaning up dilapidated apartments so that law abiding residents can live safely, in a cleaner environment to leveling the crime rate. Brookhaven residents can choose their service level, and pay for it, over time. It all stays here.
- Lower taxes. As long as Dekalb continues to raise taxes, initiate new bonds, this will be true. We vote on higher taxes, but I don't think you're getting a refund.
- More ethical and responsive leadership depends on EVERYONE, not just proponents. The process depends on each citizen to help vet the best candidate, not just one side. If you sit back, cross your arms and hope for the best, you get what you deserve.
I could honestly care less about convincing anyone about anything, I just despise the ingrained negativity from folks that are unwilling to help or give this new City a fair shot at success.
"Out of many, one."
Eddie E.
3:02 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Miss Emmie,
Good luck with all that.
One thing is for sure, the people who financed the election are lining up to secure their contracts for services. The certainly want to make their money back.....off of us.
Political Gadfly
1:00 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Hmm me thinks that HamBurger is a member of the CIA. How does he know that I like Cheerwine from my native state of North Carolina ? How does he know I like Carolina Burgers also from N.C., with chili, slaw and mustard. Now this blog is getting very personal and scary for me...lol. :-)
Political Gadfly
1:02 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"Why should I trust anything the Yes leaders are saying?" Because they won ! It's the American way. Please don't go Commie on us so close to the elections. Thank you.
"E Pluribus Unum"
1:18 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
PG....you're too smart to believe this. Trust building, being seen as trustworthy is a requirement of leadership. Agree?
"E Pluribus Unum"
1:15 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie, it is so disengenuos and insulting to say I am the problem because YOU project I am not open minded. Your broad discounting of honest concerns, rationalization, and meek response are so revealing. You seem to be a very compliant, well behaved, obedient lemming.
Political Gadfly
1:22 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"Your broad discounting of honest concerns..." Dear Miss Emmie, did he just call you a broad ? tsk tsk now that's just not done around the Capital City Club.....any more. That's not politically correct and no true Southern gentleman would ever use that expression, except on the golf course or at a college football game or at a Falcons or Braves game or Hawks game, heck just never mind !
Political Gadfly
1:30 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Eddie E.
11:27 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
PG
Just who all are you threatening?
Earth to Eddie E. get a sense of humor, how about it ? Most of the comments on here are in jest, this is just a funny, kinda quirky site, don't you agree ? I never threaten anyone. If my house were broken into by a burglar, I'd just start shooting and ask questions later. I'll be happy to say that to the new Brookhaven Police Chief when he comes on board.
Political Gadfly
1:31 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"E Pluribus Unum"
1:18 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
PG....you're too smart to believe this. Trust building, being seen as trustworthy is a requirement of leadership. Agree
I totally agree, E Pluri Thanks for asking.
Political Gadfly
1:37 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
See you ladies and gents later. I have to go pick up dinner, you know the old saying, " if momma ain't happy, nobody is." < tsk tsk, now that's a double negative, which is scandalous in well educated Brookhaven. It's Middle Eastern food but I swear I'm an All American "boy" << hardly, and a Southerner through and through. Bye for now, y'all. :-)
Eric Hovdesven
1:51 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Hola y Buenos tardes todos. Not really a fan of chili so I've got nothing to add, but wanted to say hi.
Phil
2:02 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Emmie, it is interesting that those that were actively trying to defeat the City are so infantile to just cross their arms and say-"Well, don't expect me to help." One can respect those that are seeking office even though they were against the City. Just do not know how disruptive they would be because they wanted to keep the County in those five services. Hard to say. I can see both sides.
Grieg Ericsson
2:21 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Phil,
The vast majority of the No people were opposed to the back room tactics and the rush to install a new layer of government without it being fully thought through. You will see that the speed in which this city foundation has to be constructed will prove to be a hinderance to its smooth take off. But you just keep on slamming your gavel and declaring finality in your decision to put your hero J Max Davis in office. I voted for the city, but am very skeptical as to the integrity and character of J Max Davis and Mike Jacobs. They love the old game of hide and seek.
PS....Kiss my grits. Oh, and please refrain. :)
Eddie E.
2:44 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Phil,
Facts are facts.
Some people aren't subject to cheerleading or salesmanship.
Deal with it.
don Gabacho
4:08 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"Emmie, it is interesting that those that were actively trying to defeat the City are so infantile to just cross their arms and say-'Well, don't expect me to help.'"---Phil
How 'infantile' of you. To cross your arms and whine about persons "actively trying to defeat the City" somehow being "expected to help" the CIty.
Political Gadfly
3:26 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
"That 10 percent of the population of our area decided to make a mistake suddenly makes me want to grab on with both hands and slide off the cliff?"
Hey the Brookhaven Yes folks won fair and square by a touchdown and a field goal. Just because the Vote No.org folks had a poor defensive coordinator and some linebackers who ate too many chili - slaw dogs at the Varsity, isn't our, Vote Yes, fault.
Eddie E.
5:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
And I bet you voted for bush, ........twice.
So tell me why I should trust your 'judgment'?
Political Gadfly
3:30 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Dear Miss Emmie.
Please tell me that you are NOT a man...gross. I'm a man so I know all about being gross. I had you pictured as a Tri Delt from UGA, Class of 2005, am I close ? You don't post like a man, so that's good enough for me.
Your friend,
PG
"E Pluribus Unum"
3:52 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
PG....I'm with you as far as Emmie Major being a woman but with one exception. She's doesn't strike me as a young sorority sister from UGA. Now, here is a consideration. Could we have Ernie Minor transitioning? Wouldn't that be an interesting twist?
HamBurger
5:27 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
“Atlanta-based Cox Enterprises said Friday it will build a 19-story building at its Sandy Springs campus, a significant move amid a sluggish commercial real estate market.”
“Cox Communications’ corporate operations are now located at a nearby facility on Lake Hearn Drive, and the site’s future is still being determined.”
http://tinyurl.com/craouak
Hopefully, Rep. Mike Jacobs is working on this deal for his new city. The Lake Hearn/Perimeter Summit area is ready for a building but only if it comes with a user. This could be the deal . . . And, Lord knows this new city could use the additional tax revenue. As your chili garnished with yellow mustard serving mayor, maybe I should get involved. Or, maybe I should enlist the services of a financial specialist like GuruLikeDrucker, the Finance Guru. GuruLikeDrucker . . . What an ego . . .
Please pass the yellow mustard!
A Resident
5:38 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
You could improve your nasty attitude with a high colonic. We could then get on with an intelligent discussion.
HamBurger
5:52 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ms. A Resident, frankly, I do not think suggesting more commercial revenue in your new city is having a nasty attitude. I speak of potential tax revenue, you want to talk about a high colonic. I say caca. By the way, is this procedure beneficial for folks that have colostomy bags?
You just may have been eating too much chili with yellow mustard!
Eric Hovdesven
6:07 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ha! I was going to post that story but figured people would say I was working for Mike and diverting attention ;-)
Can't say its a surprise that they are moving this operation next to their new building off Peachtree-Dunwoody. Frankly I'm surprised Cox needs more space, the AJC? But they do own 750 AM and they are getting Rush he must be on Oxycotin.
I agree we need to work on getting more Class A offices built in the Perimeter Summit and along I-85.
Not sure what this line means: "The Lake Hearn/Perimeter Summit area is ready for a building but only if it comes with a user. This could be the deal . . . "
Eddie E.
6:20 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Mr. Burger,
He did keep repeating his acute sense of budget.
HamBurger
6:47 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Mr. Eric, as someone on the “outside” of all the pro-city groups, I am glad to take the bullet for you. You would be surprised what COX and its various subsidiaries are in to demanding additional space, but this is not for the AJC.
And, if we were already a city, and the site decision was still fluid, we would not need a special department to bring business, just a mayor with personality capable of selling the city.
Regarding your confusion about my statement, this quote comes from someone other than a yellow mustard aficionado about the PCID:
“And new product is still a ways off. “The likelihood of doing something that’s not 100% or at least 75% leased… is pretty remote," ###### says.”
Please pass the yellow mustard!
HamBurger
7:33 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Mr. Roger, COX owns the Patch? You have a breaking story! I did not know that COX owned the Patch!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_Media
Please, cut Mr. Roger off from the bar, and serve him a special hamburger and a Cheerwine!
Phil
8:27 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Running against the Finance Guru must be frustrating for you , HamBurger. And to think he is so young too. So is Mr. Hurst.
HamBurger
8:41 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Mr. Phil, what a demented, pitifully despicable man you are to continue with this line of questioning. Your continued alluding to who I am with no factual basis and then asking me just who I am has become very tiresome. However, you continue to be preferential with your ignoring C$ND and Brookhaven Yes folks participating in what you insistently accuse me of. To be expected from you.
Special hamburger?
Eric Hovdesven
9:33 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Oh ok Hamburger. Yea we've also got that other highrise pad ready to go plus other parcels but yes they won't build on Spec.
EPU...good one.
Though the topic I'm curious the Patch hasn't raised and would be interested in discussing is the large Buford Highway project GDOT announced. PEDS feels the median would help. Though I think there are lots of problems with the proposal. The road should be narrowed to 2 lanes in each direction and the speed lowered from 45 to 35, perhaps make the right lane a bus/shuttle/turn lane.
DeKalb is not progressive or aggressive enough in these matters. And Brookhaven is a ways off from having any meaningful influence over GDOT.
Eddie E.
9:44 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Phil,
'Finance Guru' now that is a hoot. Take away 'Dunwoody' and 'budget' and I don't think the man could talk.
Look, I grew up watching Rukhyeser and Drucker spar every Friday night. They weren't posers.
Kiri Walton
3:35 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
AOL owns Patch, not Cox.
"E Pluribus Unum"
7:05 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Eric...you are now forever indebted to HamBurger for taking that bullet for you.
Eddie, why would anyone vote for W twice? Mind boggling.
Eddie E.
9:42 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
I don't know, but it obviously happened.
Brookhaven Maven
11:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Did any of you notice that the posts by Emmie at 12:30 and 12:43 on the 28th were actually posted by Emmie Major --- not Emmie Majors with an S? If someone is spoofing Ms. Majors, they should quit. Kiri? What say you? Same person? The tone of the Major messages don't match that of the Majors messages at all.
http://brookhaven.patch.com/users/emmie-major
Kiri?
-- The Maven
Kiri Walton
3:33 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Hi Brookhaven Maven, Patch does not disclose the identities of private citizens or their information, such as email addresses.
"E Pluribus Unum"
11:36 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
BM, good catch. I hope that's not the case...someone misrepresenting EM(s).
Son of Emmie
7:51 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
As usual certain Patch contributors spend more time and effort trying to figure out who's who instead of comprehending the points made by others. Such is the blogworld.
Maven is XXXXXXX, E Pluribus is YYYYYYYYYY, who cares?
"E Pluribus Unum"
8:27 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
SOE....good morning. I am not concerned about anyone's identity here. I also interpret BM the same. The concern BM is making is that it appears someone is misrepresenting another identity. That is the issue. I agree with BM.
Carl Childers
1:00 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Greetings.
I have done extensive research on the topic of speculating others identities on these forums. My research has led me to the conclusion that they are all J Max Davis and Mike Jacobs. It is still unclear whether or not these 2 persons are actually one in the same. After extensive laboratory analysis through a series of experiments, I have concluded that Mike Jacobs can actually fit inside of J Max Davis, thus leading me to believe that J Max Davis is actually only a transport apparatus and docking station for Mike Jacobs. I am also very close to proving that there is actually no persons named J Max Davis or Mike Jacobs...only the one true being who is none other than J Max Jacobs, esq. To complete my research, I am in need of photographic evidence of Mike Jacobs exiting the docking station via the gluteus portal. I had hoped to witness this sublimation during my attendance at the chili cook-off, however, the close proximity of J Max (Jacobs) booth to the portable toilet enclosures, led me to believe I had missed this transformation in it's entirety. Although the lingering odor of flatulance persisted and the attempt to mask the discomfort had by all with a bottle of French's mustard, could not conclusively provide the evidence I could submit to my colleagues for further concurrence.
All of this is very interesting. Again, further evidence is needed to complete this study.
I am therefor a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
Thank you.
"E Pluribus Unum"
2:04 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Carl Childers, once again I am awe struck by the vastness of your intellect and research. With respect to the identification misrepresentation by the mother Emmie ( note: Major and NOT Majors) and the lame response by son of Emmie and reference to and characterization of sister, is it possible for you to research and predict the probability of family inbreeding taking place? I believe you are the only Patch contributor who has the capacity to do this detailed, complex analysis. The future of Brookhaven may lie in your findings.
Carl Childers
4:29 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
E Pluribus Unum,
I have completed my evaluation of the Emmie Majors, Emmie Major and Son of Emmie anomaly.
Test Subjects: Emmie Major, Emmie Majors and Son of Emmie
Control Group (Subset: Zeta): Basketball Sensations and Saimese Twins currently living in the Netherlands, believed to be related to Andy Garcia (who was in-fact born with a conjoined twin attached to his shoulder), a freeze dried fig, and a rolled up newspaper. ("Jumble" and bastardized "Sodoku" in tact.)
Hypothesis: When all parties in Test Group are outfitted with low voltage Scrotometers and Cotton Crotch Hane's underwear (50/50 mix) while engaging in procreation the resulting effect is a multi-headed, multi-personality humanoid being that engages in obfuscations and FUD on local internet blog sites.
Adjustment to Research: After months of research I have concluded that my initial hypothesis was completely erroneous as I neglected the to inject the J Max factor as described in an earlier white paper. I therefor adjusted my research to include partially consumed weight watchers beef popsicles and yellow mustard, KY Jelly and a do it yourself Prostate Exam Kit.
Findings: It has been confirmed through deep (and I do mean deep) probing of the J Max Jacobs Gluteus Portal, that Emmie Majors, Emmie Major and Son of Emmie all reside in the cavernous abyss along with Mike Jacobs. Confirmation pending Dekalb County Extension review.
Please remember, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
"E Pluribus Unum"
5:27 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
OMG....this is absolutely the most difficult, dangerous and just plan gruesome diagnosis possible. I am afraid to ask what is the short term expectation here. However, morale courage compels me to ask...what's next? Should we be afraid? Is this condition contagious? What strength you must have to look at sickness and harm directly in the eye.
Carl Childers
7:00 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
E Pluribus,
Yes sir. This is a condition that should be closely monitored. Symptoms begin with a swelling of the head. As the condition worsens it affects the digestive tract causing extreme swelling - and in the most acute cases, the stomach will explode. Finally, causing the patient to declare a desire to impose his will and personal agendas on unsuspecting humanoids coupled with the inability to tell the truth and display a complete lack of transparency - often resulting in a mayoral bid to ensure employment for his colleagues and campaign contributors. This condition is often invisible to those closest to the patient resulting in a complete euphoric condition for those unfortunate beings.
It should be noted that there is only one known case of a strange behavioral side effect whereas the infected person is subject to being a puppet for a sitting state representative and appears to being isolated to the northern part of Dekalb County, GA known as Brookhaven, RFD.
This is a serious condition and the only known cure is complete expulsion from society.
Thank you for your interest in this case study. More information on this topic can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/8l59dyc
And as you know, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
Carl Childers
7:01 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
PS....Look out for Johnathan. I'm seeing early signs of infection. Yikes!
Low and Behold
6:26 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Carl is Childish and E Pubic you guys apparently believe you are clever, perhaps intelligent.
But really you are just stupidly wasting bandwidth with your cynicism and your willingness to lie in an attempt to validate your cynicism.
Carl Childers
7:10 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Johnathan,
Rest easy my friend. Your condition, if it worsens, is curable.
And as you know, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
HamBurger
7:13 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Mr. jonathan, your comments are amusing, if this was on Saturday Night Live you would call this great comedy. Remember, you now have your new city. Why should you be concerned if a few folks are unhappy? Are you aware of something we should know? And, for many of us in the Brookhaven area this is comic relief. Regardless of your take, I got a good laugh out of this. And, I needed the laugh.
SBU, speaking of cynicism . . . And willingness to lie, time will tell, right? Most interesting is how pro-city candidates state the Vinson study was just a roadmap and are now ready to manipulate the Vinson “budget” to make this new city work. I am looking forward to all of those folks completely uninvolved with their county government defend their new city as promises by Brookhaven Yes and its board members are substantially modified.
The various committees are now working on the services our new city will be responsible for. Interestingly, this is based on the Vinson study which has absolutely nothing to do with HB 636. And we have no clue what our actual city budget is, right?
Mr. jonathan, please make sure your new city works . . . Or, you will be paying just like the rest of us . . .
Please pass the yellow mustard!
TomMiller
7:21 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I'm not a pro city candidate. I will tell you that I read the Vinson Study. It better just be a road map b/c the information is not particularly detailed in some areas.
The fact is this is a city whether you take anon pot shots like Spamburglar or not. I am counting on a sh*tpot full of mistakes into the first two years.
Will it beat what dekalb county did? Time will tell. Already I can tell you that more people have paid attention to this part of town in the last 90 days than ---- it seems - the last 3 year in total.
For those who want to argue -- not snipe - let's start with this -- the $7 million dollar Browns Mill aquatic park
http://www.helloatlanta.com/attractions/browns_mill_family_aquatic_center_makes_a_big_splash/201880/
or better yet:
DeKalb County and YMCA officials opened the facility on Saturday to give residents a taste of what’s to come when the $20 million YMCA opens for business on Aug. 16.The county provided the land in the 25-acre park and paid to build the facility.
$27 million on two parks. That is -- hmmm ... what is that? Year one budget to run the city.
Carl Childers
8:27 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Tom,
Are you feeling any discomfort or enlargement in the abdominal area? Is it tender to the touch? When you thump it does it sound like a ripe watermelon? If so, you should call Johnathan and get inoculated immediately.
And as you know, I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
HamBurger
8:45 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Mr. Tom, you can tell a lot about folks by the way they address others. It is a very little thing that speaks volumes about one’s self and their personal interactions.
As for your reading of the Vinson study, the most important part of this study was what you didn’t read. Unfortunately, most citizens do not have a clue as to what I am talking about. And, this is by design by the folks at C$ND, Brookhaven Yes, and Rep. Mike Jacobs. So, if the sales job was more optimistic than the actual budget will allow, please, don’t complain as no one responsible for this incorrect information wants to hear you or anyone else whine about their dissatisfaction with exactly what was promised to the citizens of this new city. Just be quiet, make sure you pay your property tax bill, and any other new city fees you may be subject to on time. They need your money and could care less about your complaints.
OK?
Please pass the yellow mustard!
"E Pluribus Unum"
10:46 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Johnathan, how's it going tonight? Symptoms easing up? I'm concerned that you're so uptight. Relax.
Low and Behold
6:55 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
LOL!!! EPU you might want to invest in a mirror!
But hey, even though you support Obama ... DUDE I LOVE YOU!!!
"E Pluribus Unum"
10:52 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
TomMiller, I appreciate the admission that the CVI study is fuzzy. I agree with you. So now, if mistakes are going to be made, at what point should we lose patience? Are there certain mistakes that we should consider inexcusable? I'm am trying to calibrate my personal expectations.
"E Pluribus Unum"
7:11 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Johnathan, good morning. I accept your point...yes, I do get worked up myself. Fair enough. So even though we don't agree on the Brookhaven challenges (yet), there's hope that you can make a turn around on the national front and President Obama (smile). Jumping back to Brookhaven, I'll ask you the same question that I asked TomMiller. Thoughts? Have a good day.
Low and Behold
7:31 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
GOOD MORNING!!! Really doesn't matter what we think about the Prez election. Electoral College means Romney wins Georgia. It comes down to the swing states. Can you imagine Georgia voting for Obama? Shoot if I were him I'm not sure I'd want us.
My thoughts? Why thank you. But I will admit, I am not from the new City on the hill, like my alter, I mean neighbors, I mean future annexation mates, I am from the wild blue yonder. So really I'm just here to take pot shots. I thought that was OK seeing how all the grey hairs are doing that!
Oh, ok. One Thought, Vote Wisely. There are many ways to get from Point A to Point B. It is not Rocket Science. It just takes fiscal restraint, some intelligence, a good city manager. Sure if the numbers don't pan well maybe budgets will need to be tighter and some things may take longer, so patience maybe needed.
Ok, time for me to crawl back into my hole. ROCK ON!
John Q Public
7:33 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
E,
So are we going to witness a discounting of the CVI Study as time has passed since the city campaign? The one thing we can ALL do is make damn sure we get what we were promised. No one said it would take years and years to fulfill the promises. So they have their city and I want my Utopia. All of it with no excuses. The real kick in the teeth will be when they figure out the HOST allocations they are expecting for 2012 (paid to Brookhaven in 2013) will be ALOT less than they expected. You will see that I am dead on right. Even with shady mathematics the surplus the CVI showed was not achievable. Mike and J Max know full well they lied. Let's not let these good character impostors get away with delivering anything less than what they promised. ALL of it.
I am therefor I submit to you, John Q Public.
"E Pluribus Unum"
7:53 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Johnathan, before disappearing for the day, here are two thoughts.
1. I would also add being authentic, trustworthy, bridge builder, and genuinely interested in representing the ENTIRE community.
2. Achieveing the attributes and wish list provided is much more difficult than rocket science.
John Q Public...bravo! Spot of comments.
"E Pluribus Unum"
7:58 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Johnathan and John Q Public, we are off the a very bumpy start in accomplishing what we have listed. It's not only the obvious mistakes made, but it's the lack and beginning pattern of poor judgement and unawareness of the to-date expenses for the new city "surprises" that are now being blown off as no big deal. Poor judgement and being unaware are important concerns and big deals.
Joe The Plumber
8:18 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
An offer of support and an extension of lending my expertise to your work.
Professor Childers,
As a regular guy and a master plumber, I would like to extend an invitation to provide services that may well be needed to complete your experiments. By utilizing some of my proprietary vacuum extraction techniques, I know I can be of service and get to the "bottom" of the issue with the J Max Jacobs theory. I am a little concerned that there may be more than meets the eye once the extraction occurs. Gluteus Portal Extrctions can be dangerous due to the high concentration of methane gas. It is my belief that there may be more than just Mike Jacobs, the Emmie bunch and various lost and found items recently vaporizing in the Brookhaven area encapsulated in the cavernous abyss in question.
If you would like to schedule a cost free consultation just post here and I'll send you my contact info privately.
Joe
Carl Childers
9:15 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Joe,
Thank you so very much for your generous offer. There are many aspects to my research. I am a little leery of accepting any assistance in the actual lab as this would require a litany of Non Disclosure Agreements and Security Clearance issues that could take years to complete. I will however, accept your assistance in field work on the following terms:
1) You will agree to a professional attitude at all times. This is not a game.
2) You will never disclose the findings of the research. Thats my job.
3) You supply your own health, liability and hazard insurance.
4) You can commit to approximately 3.82 hours of field work per month.
Send confirmation via a private message and we can set up a meeting to get you started, and never forget,
I am a scientist and a genius. Notice my enormous cranium.
Joe The Plumber
9:36 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Professor Childers,
Acknowledged. As soon as I get finished dispatching a team over to Brittany AGAIN for another massive line clog, I'll hit you up.
Thanks! This will be some of the greatest work in my life. Who knows, maybe I can put this on my resume as I may mount a write in campaign for City Council. Since the criteria for what qualifies as community service and involvement took on a whole new meaning as Candidate Mitchell explained to me at my doorstep a week or so ago.... As if working with a citizens group to force personal agendas qualifies as community service, then surely clearing a massive sewer clog will qualify as well.
Anyhow, I look forward to the opportunity and as My Maltese has asked below, I am ready - and I know this gluteus extraction will require me to "roll up my sleeves".
Joe.
"E Pluribus Unum"
8:24 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
My eyes get misty when I see fine, stand-up people like Joe the Plummer step forward and commit to community involvement and collaboration like this. With many others doing the same, we have a chance! Thank you Carl and Joe...two great Americans.
Nick Maltese
9:09 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
It is amazing how serious the childish, anonymous trolls really take themselves, since they are only playing to an audience of six on Patch which is a liberal leaning (owned by AOL, allied with huffington post) forum.
The cast and crew, HamBurger, Childers, EPU, EddieE, and rest of these lesser trolls make, "All Things Negative . . .Patch Productions" an example of how low certain folks whose ONE common denominator, left of center politics, can go.
If you all represent the democratic party, I am glad we are a RED State.
What a bunch of losers, one and all.
HamBurger
10:01 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Mr. Nick, I do not take myself seriously at all. However, something must have stirred you up because you have responded.
Additionally, it has been alluded to on the Patch by many that this city issue is along party lines. This is a very odd misconception and far from accurate and a myth perpetuated by Brookhaven Yes. As for the two major political parties, they are pale shadows of their former selves muddled in part by party changes for a politician’s expediency. Politically speaking, Georgia may be a red state, but its actual color is a diluted mix of blue and red.
Before you go, would you like a special hamburger?
Nick Maltese
10:29 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
The city issue was clearly opposed by a loud faction of dems, that much is true.
Take EddieE for example. Please, someone, take EddieE...
A perfect example of one of your more lucid intervals:
" As for the two major political parties, they are pale shadows of their former selves muddled in part by party changes for a politician’s expediency. Politically speaking, Georgia may be a red state, but its actual color is a diluted mix of blue and red."
Well written and so true.
Grieg Ericsson
10:42 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick,
There you go. Soft deep breaths, perhaps some soothing music and a hint of charbroiled beef in the air. Ahhhhh. Take it all in. Out with the bad air, in with the good. Now. The problem with our politicial system is in fact that pesky aisle down the middle of the room. Do away with that aisle, eliminate the "sides", everyone join together in the middle, and solve some problems. And perhaps, some of Mr. Hamburgers Cheerwine and Perfectly prepared hamburgers enjoyed by all could just be the answer. Don't be mad. It isn't worth it. You're gonna get screwed one way or another, this place or that. Just try to have a little joy whenever you can. You got your city. Be happy. And roll up you r sleeves to hold the Brookhaven Good Ol Boys to task and make them deliver. Otherwise you voted for an ideal not a reality.
Nick Maltese
10:59 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
From the cauldron of dissent comes decisions tempered by reason and debate.
Then there is the devolution of the bicameral system that we see today. The Union has survived similar, even worse scenarios - The War of Northern Aggression, for example, but not without BOTH sides rolling up their sleeves and getting involved, speaking their mind and showing their heart.
That is my point. You mistake passion for anger, Grieg.
Grieg Ericsson
11:31 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Unless of course you are angry about passion.
Nick Maltese
11:34 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Grieg, Are you paid by Patch to post here?
Grieg Ericsson
11:58 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Unfortunately, no. I am not. However, I will be glad to accept any sizable monetary donations as I prepare to kick-off my Brookhaven Campaign. I am going to run for District 5...the lost District...which I am going to create. In my District I pledge to tell everyone everything. We will be a completely volunteer District. The 5 year plan is to take over the entire metropolitan area. We will not need a logo nor a police department. We will live amongst you. And we will be watching.
HamBurger
12:16 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Mr. Nick, the Patch pays folks to post here? LOL, get your hands on their website demographics, do some research on the company, and then check out the pay structure for their employees.
Now, what was your question again?
Would you like a special hamburger and a Cheerwine wwhile you do your research?
Nick Maltese
12:35 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I am sure that a HamBurger has better information than Forbes. Here we see a recent article substantiating my point of view:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/04/26/aols-patch-adding-8000-bloggers-in-full-on-course-correction/
What about it Patch? Do you have paid blog posters or not? If so, have they ever disclaimed their affiliation?
Grieg, thank you for your response, I will take your denial as a truthful comment.
Eddie E.
2:32 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick,
Only forbes doesn't tell you that most of the 'paid trolls' are wrong wing nuts and/or inmates paid to parrot a corporate line.
Nick Maltese
9:18 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Oh and one other comment, your 'group' has an unnatural fascination with some really disgusting things. There is no credible example of changing public sentiment or winning an intellectual argument through the use of gibberish, toilet talk and the like.
Even arch political foes address each other as 'my friend' since they have the basic understanding that while differences occur on virtually every topic, there will be times when they must WORK TOGETHER.
To these boring, parasitic democratic vermin I say, 'KEEP ON,' as you are singularly the best examply of why Brookhaven incorporated.
HamBurger deserves special recognition as the lead purveyor of negative ramblings, interspersed with random lucid intervals. Clearly, a person who has the ability to do better but chooses not to be any better than necessary.
The vote is over, time to roll up your sleeves and stop typing!
"E Pluribus Unum"
9:22 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Carl...I would also consider additional hazard/ liability coverage. I would imagine the "extraction" process and by-products to be very gruesome. My goodness, I never realized how messy city government issues with tissues really was. Remain strong Brookhaven community.
"E Pluribus Unum"
9:27 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick...or roll up our pant legs if the big bold promises are not delivered. Agree? I don't consider holding the leadership of our new city accountable for lower taxes, higher services, and transparent, responsive government. Those were the promises made. So again, expecting these outcomes is not being negative. Go make it happen.
Joe The Plumber
9:38 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
One clog at a time my brother. There are so many.
Nick Maltese
9:38 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
"Go make it happen," typical loser mentality of democratic leaning liberals. "I did not vote for this, so now I will sit back, ready to pounce on every misstep and proclaim, 'I told you so.' " Cowardly, lazy, and small are words that usually define those pathetic negative sideliners.
Yep, I have seen your type before, impossible to fire from their union or government job, or should I say, their entitlement job right. Your attitude is an example of 'failure expectations,' focusing on every word, intentionally misstating facts, and creating confusion.
That did not work on July 31, 2012.
Grieg Ericsson
9:48 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Mr. Maltese Falcon,
You're an angry ol' cuss! Relax buddy. You got what you wanted. Now the joke and the burden of proof is on you! Submit to your master. Kiss his ring. Join arms and march to the beat of your own drum. Do a little fancy dance! It is very liberating. If making your little private Idaho made you this angry, perhaps you should call Joe and get an extraction. I know your head has already swelled but as Carl describes, your belly could be next. It appears the symptoms could be worsening. Please monitor your midsection often today...and by all means, please refrain.
Nick Maltese
9:45 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Don't be played by Patch or any other blog site: Patch EMPLOYS trolls.
The lifeblood of the blogging world is something called 'page hits,' and for non-technical folks, that is a measurement of how many times different viewers come to Patch, in this case. Page hits increase as topics become more relevant, in this example around July 2012, when the incorporation decision was about to go to a vote.
I ask that anyone who is employed by Patch as a blogger, please identify yourself in the interest of credibility.
Here we see a recent article substantiating my point of view:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/04/26/aols-patch-adding-8000-bloggers-in-full-on-course-correction/
Grieg Ericsson
9:51 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
I made millions last year posting on the Patch. Dude, (Dud), turn off the Rush Limbaugh, unsubscribe to your conspiracy theory publications and breath deeply. It's gonna be ok buddy! Hugs! XOXOXOX
Nick Maltese
10:26 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
I despise Rush Limbago Grieg.
Thank you for eloquently substantiating my point, your continued discussion of immature nonsense and things disgusting excludes YOU from any Patch affiliation. Now HamBurger is another story because that entity actually avoids wandering off-topic into your netherworld of stupidity.
Eddie E.
2:30 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick,
I am employed by my company that has nothing to do with blogging.
I blog various places to help lift the fog that would have us all existing so that others can count on an income stream.
Citizens don't exist merely for corporations to profit.
Nick Maltese
2:59 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
EddieE, you are a job creator, I know you piddle around here partly for fun, partly because you are angry at what happened. I get that.
I think that in three years, you will feel a lot better about this new city...
Grieg Ericsson
4:46 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick! Now you are a clairvoyant. I'm impressed.
Nick Maltese
5:16 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Unlike you Grieg, I have an immense capacity to recall discussions because I listen.
EddieE is irascible, but can actually string together cohesive points on which we can disagree, whereas you are far more comfortable speaking of toiletry hygiene. Sad pathetic, little troll.
Eddie E.
5:51 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick,
I will probably feel better once all the money is spent and the vote to dissolve is looming.
A Resident
1:08 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
If the Patch paid a penny a post, Hammy would make a fortune for the drivel he posts.
Nick Maltese
2:35 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
EPU:
1.) Slavery is both horrific and inhuman, but did not exclusively start the US Civil War.
A. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.
B. States versus federal rights.
C.The fight between Slave and Non-Slave State Proponents.
D.Growth of the Abolition Movement.
E. The election of Abraham Lincoln.
http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/cause_civil_war.htm
2. Liberals are not the problem, it's their ideas on how to run this, or any other County are not on the side of history or contemporary world scenarios. Greece, Portugal, Spain will all need a rescue loan as their socialist policies are unsustainable. So far, Cityhood is working, large County government is not working.
3. Hyperbole much? "...now become automatically, compliantly involved, and if not, we are the scum of the earth..." How about volunteering and becoming involved with the idea of challenging ideas to make them better?
4. Patch may hire people to increase page hits without any disclosure. To me that is an ethically poor example for the Forth Estate.
5. My comment about lucid intervals is directed at HamBurger, BTW.
Rainfall is really hitting hard, we need it. Can we agree on that?
Fascinating look at the basis of US social thinking, based on four sets of immigrants.
http://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-Cultural/dp/0195069056
"E Pluribus Unum"
1:59 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Nick, you are all over the board.
1. War of Northern Agression? Really? Showing your true colors? The Confederacy was involved in a treasonist war to overturn the United States government and preserve slavery. The Confederacy got its butt kicked. You're not part of "reenactment" battles celebrating you got your butts kicked (again)?
2. Your reference about a "liberal" perspective from the fine folks you mention...so what? Also, please don't be hypocritical. You didn't like it when you were tagged a Rush groupie. You have no clue or knowledge about me to try and put me in your perceived political box.
3. With respect to your expectation that "no voters" now become automatically, compliantly involved, and if not, we are the scum of the earth. Nick, that is unrealistic. I have a very deep level of mistrust as to the manner in which the process for city hood was conducted. I may have been all for it if I felt more community education and input was afforded. I also felt the reluctance to medicate the broad concerns about the CVI study was troublesome.
4. Your Forbes link? What's your point? BTW, when I looked at the comments for that article...3 total. HamBurger gets that many responses when he's not even contributing perspectives.
5. Eddie E., truly a very nice complement..."lucid intervals." Now, how warm and fuzzy do you feel about that (smile)?
"E Pluribus Unum"
2:02 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Clarification...even though the medicate reference to the CVI study has substantive meaning, the word is "mediate" and not medicate. Thank you.
Grieg Ericsson
2:20 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I think the dude that wrote the CVI Study was on some kind of downers....thus making the medicate reference very appropriate.
A Resident
2:45 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
How about sharing your academic credentials so we can all see how qualified you are to denigrate the University of Georgia.
Grieg Ericsson
2:56 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Even the University of Georgia has duds. Just ask this lady.
http://tinyurl.com/8pvcq8n
Now leave me alone and continue with your obfuscations and FUD.
Grieg Ericsson
2:59 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Dick or is it Nick? Whatever.
Your rotund master and his unibrow friend will screw the city up just fine by themselves.
"E Pluribus Unum"
3:45 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Hey Nick, your response is total BS avoidance and redirection. One question with two parts. Where is your klan hood and Rush L. blow-up doll? Now sincere advice....your only hope is to totally submit your bad self to Carl Childers and Joe the Plumber for their "professional grade heavy duty" extraction process. The rehab will include heavy doses of HamBuger prose necessary to keep you out of the fog. As a paid Patch blogger, he is extremely qualified to do this with the lost, lonely and dillusional. God speed dear soul.
PS Eddie E., I'm trying to match your level of lucid intervals. Damn, you've set a high bar for me!
PSS Greg, you're right again. Medicate really is more appropriate.
Nick Maltese
4:13 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Avoidance and redirection?
Did you learn those words from your mental health therapist, who barely kept from giggling out loud, as you explained your fear-centric, pathetic life in less than 12 minutes?
Fecund blivet with a computer!
"E Pluribus Unum"
3:49 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
A Resident....denigrate the UGA? For what? Grieg isn't the one who embezzled the $ from CVI.
Eddie E.
5:55 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
EPU
We live in a time when people associate a tentacle of the University of Georgia (although being a quasi-private entity) with being a 'neutral authority' on the issue of municipalization. Folks don't understand that 'you get the answers you pay for' and the CVI has no dog in the fight once they are paid.
It's like the misguided swath of the population that assumes 'SACS' is a bastion of educational expertise rather than a for profit tentacle of the CofC.
And still, everyone gets to vote.
"E Pluribus Unum"
3:50 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Correction...Grieg and not Greg. I don't want Nick to become more confused.
"E Pluribus Unum"
11:03 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Eddie E., excellent point. It's not surprising since a significant portion of the Georgia General Assembly are UGA grads. The back and forth back scratching between the state university and GA is expected. Unfortunately Brookhaven got caught in the cross fire of CVI scratching.
Brokenhaven
12:03 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Somebody p'd off ole Nick. Maybe it time for him to take his Kool Aide with a Wafer Thin Mint, I'll call the cleaning lady and have her bring a bucket
Political Gadfly
1:08 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
^^^^^ The meaning of the message above is very nebulous. Could you repost your thoughts in plain Engrish ? Thank you very much.