Does DeKalb County Need a New School Superintendent?
Brookhaven and Chamblee leaders have been watching the school system's travails for months. Now, Patch wants your opinion on Cheryl Atkinson.
It was a hot topic on Twitter this past Friday, and speculation continues that DeKalb School Superintendent Cheryl Atkinson might soon resign her position or be replaced by the embattled DeKalb Board of Education.
The DeKalb Board of Education was set to choose a new chair and vice chair on Monday, but adjourned without doing so. Its next meeting is on Wednesday, Feb. 6, and Atkinson's tenure with the system may come up during the meeting.
Leaders in Brookhaven and Chamblee have been following DeKalb's school system troubles for months, and now Patch wants to know: do you believe our local school system needs a new superintendent? Is Atkinson the best person for the job, or is new leadership needed?
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Brookhaven4u
6:29 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
I don't say this lightly, because I have respect for elected officials. The whole entire board needs to go.
This is an eye soar on the whole county that needs to be addressed.
What gets under my skin the most, they don't seem embarrassed by the situation they created.
don Gabacho
1:05 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
"...I have respect for elected officials. The whole entire board needs to go..."---Brookhaven4u
Sort of like what had been Brookhaven's appointed commission; and all that followed.
No?
HamBurger
7:39 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
http://blog.donfordekalb.com/2013/02/04/179/
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Eddie E.
7:58 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Thanks for the link Mr. Burger.
It brings up a question I have harbored for quite a while, when was the referendum on passing authority to SACs (better known as the Chamber of Commerce)?
The degree to which the sort of 'crimethink' that was involved in the selection process has been allowed to spread is more than just slightly disturbing.
Lisa Engle
7:42 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
I 2nd the above comment. After having met with Dr. Atkinson, I appreciate her effort to clean up the mess she stepped into and know that she can't turn a ship this size quick enough, it'd capsize. While I don't think she's done "everything right", I do think she's really made some big progress.
Betsy Parks
8:41 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
A new board, appointed by the Gov., would suffer no political pressure within the county system and be more capable to address the underlying issues within DCSS. If we are going to recycle policitcians who have already been unable to address the real issues then there is no hope for DCSS in it's current state." Johnny on Don's blog
SIGN AND SHARE TO Remove ENTIRE DKBOE
change.org/petitions/governor-nathan-deal-and-georgia-state-board-of-education-review-sacs-findings-if-accurate-replace-the-dekalb-county-school-board
Shawn Keefe
9:28 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
For anyone who thinks Atkinson is not as good as gone (thankfully), please note BOE is already discussing interim replacements:
http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2013/02/04/former-labor-commissioner-michael-thurmond-good-guy-but-can-he-lead-dekalb-schools/
Is Thurmond the right person? Personally, I'd like to hear about his relationship with "Chairman" Walker.
Lastly, thank you Don McChesney, for proving what so many of us believed to be true with regards to Atkinson's hiring & shame on you, BOE, for your continued lack of transparency and disrespect for the children & taxpayers of DeKalb County.
William
11:49 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Same old garbage from this BOE. Sitting on Atkinson's resignation/dismissal until they have someone who they can parade out as a champion in order to save face.
From what I've heard/remember about Thurmond, he seems like a capable and reasonable person. However, I question his motivations/sanity if he takes the interim superintendent position from a Board likely to be booted out in a matter of weeks. They have zero credibility...if you really want to make a difference and think you are the right person (rather than it just being the right opportunity), apply for the job in front of the new board.
BTW- I love how the AJC spins the superintendent search. As if their paper didn't choose to grant confidentiality to board members willing to destroy the search process in order to get a gossipy scoop about the contract being offered.
Amazing how the ethics of media have changed...where the media used to seek the truth and protect informants in order to root out government corruption, they now protect the government corrupters in order to get page hits. Sad..
Shawn Keefe
9:34 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
With regards to SACS, until Georgia adopts a school accreditation process that takes into account the academic performance of individual schools instead of the overall governance of entire systems, the students of our State will not be able to compete with their peers around the Nation. I hope the Governor, GA General Assembly & State DOE look closely into the motives, agendas, and effectiveness of SACS and seriously consider an alternative to our accreditation standards & practices.
HamBurger
11:51 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Mr. Shawn, SACS has proved they are a “hand out” organization, not a real accrediting agency. If they were, they would have held DCSS accountable for their poor performance long ago. They influence to protect what they consider their turf.
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Shawn Keefe
12:01 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Unfortunately, the State of Georgia recognizes them as an accrediting agency & I am advocating that it is time for a replacement of turf.
Dean
10:05 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Ignoring the incompetent BOE and district leadership to pin the entire blame on SACS isn't going to fly.
Shawn Keefe
10:20 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
There has been NO ignoring the BOE or general administration amongst the people actively involved in this debate. They are all intertwined. Who pushed Atkinson on the BOE as the lead candidate? SACS! Who had the previous relationship with SACS as a member of different committees they put together? ATKINSON! On one hand, SACS has criticized members of the BOE for "meddling" in affairs they should not be involved in; while on the other hand, SACS seems to have had direct involvement in the hiring of our Superintendent, a process that should not fall under their scope of influence & a process that has led to continued failure of the DCSD.
Dean
10:32 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Any SACS influence on that hire was inapproriate.
Did you read Mr. McChesney's account of how the board acted during the search?
Shawn Keefe
10:39 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Of course, as I stated my appreciation to him above.
Eddie E.
10:46 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Shawn,
You are only supposed to read the 'half' that blames the board and overlook all the rest.
Logically evaluating the problem to ensure it is solved does not place the 'blame' where a small cadre of our neighbors feel blame for everything wrong at all levels in the world should be placed.
Dean
10:46 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Is there any reason to think this board would make a better choice this time?
HamBurger
11:52 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Mr. Dean, by referencing that blog post you affirm that SACS is an impediment to productive changes to DCSS.
By the way, since they are through creating Brookhaven and have a little time on their hands do you see Rep. Mike Jacobs, Rep. Tom Taylor, and Sen. Fran Millar using their influence to demand improvements to DCSS?
Special hamburger and a Cheerwine?
Dean
12:11 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
If SACS is an obstacle the Board itself is The Great Wall of China.
A sense of scope is required.
Shawn Keefe
11:02 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Hopefully Governor Deal, at the recommendation of the State BOE, prevents that decision from having to occur by removing the Board following the February 21st hearing. In the alternative, NO, there is no reason to believe the current Board, as a majority, is capable of making a better choice given the opportunity.
Dean
11:19 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
We're on the same page.
Eddie E.
12:59 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Shawn,
Ok if you think that would really solve the problem.
But that begs the question, WHO should the Governor appoint to solve the problem and given the Governor's clear lack of ethical behavior, why do you think he would do anything approaching a better job at selecting people who would hew to the job rather than the 'SACS Dance'?
Shawn Keefe
1:44 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Eddie, I believe that removing the current BOE & Superintendent are two major pieces to the puzzle, but alone will not solve the problems we face. The road to a better education system, in DeKalb and around Georgia, in my opinion, is more local governance of our schools by parents, teachers, community members, etc., and less oversight, dependence & influence by central administrations and 3rd parties such as SACS. Criticize away...
Dean
2:21 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Eddie what do you think should be done to fix DCS?
don Gabacho
3:16 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
"...why do you think he would do anything approaching a better job at selecting people who would hew to the job..."---Eddie E.
Given his authorizing an interim-government, the City of Brookhaven Commission, including "chair" of a still-to-be identified police force in our midsts, I'd say it would be more of the same: dangerous and outright unConstitutional.
He does have his handlers to contend with though.
Eddie E.
5:03 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Dean,
Hold each board member individually accountable through exposure of any and all inappropriate behavior.
This might bring the General Assembly into the 21st Century providing legislation allowing for recall of elected officials (by the Voters).
They could also develop a Not For Profit accreditation system that is more geared to identification of EDUCATIONAL problems and developing solutions rather than worrying about the size of the school board.
Exchanging one dictatorial policy for another isn't likely to attain any miracles.
Dean
5:55 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Eddie unfortunately you are treating as a partisan issue.
This board and the administration it has empowered has run the system into the ground. Something needs to be done now to start repairing the damage, blaming SACS or statewide elected officials doesn't do that.
Eddie E.
5:59 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Dean,
I'm surprised.
I didn't know you could address anything stating that it was not a 'partisan issue'.
Alas, while the problem may not be entirely partisan, the proposed solution is.
Dekalb County Voters need to be fully aware of the consequences of rushing headfirst into an entirely partisan 'solution' as it will take years to recover from such folly.
HamBurger
6:18 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Mr. Dean, respectfully, your posts are telling in that you really have not spent very much time studying the DCSS and its interaction with SACS. Do you need some research links?
You need to research SACS to fully appreciate their “hand out” philosophy of creating income for their selves regarding school accreditation at the expense of our collective education systems. They have done DCSS and Georgia dirty. Mr. HamBurger and Mr. Dean could do a better job of accrediting schools than SACS has done.
The problem with SACS is that there involvement has resulted in a long term degradation of DCSS and Georgia schools. If you want public education in Georgia to excel, SACS needs to go! Clearly, you are not observant of how they protest their turf.
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Shawn Keefe
11:55 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
The link below is an interesting read. Back in 2011, the Lorain, Ohio community (a school district of 7,000 students compared to DCSD's 98,000+) was THANKING DeKalb for taking Cheryl Atkinson away from them, calling it "GREAT NEWS!!!". Comments such as "now let’s get a superintendent who does something", "we are now starting on a path to recovery" and "the community has to be excited at the prospect of a new superintendent", are comments I hope we as parents & taxpayers of DeKalb County can duplicate in the coming days.
http://betterlorainschools.wordpress.com/
Lou
3:51 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Blaming SACS is like blaming the messenger. The whole board needs to go and to be replaced by the governor. What has happened to the DeKalb County School System is criminal. Jim Cherry and the other fine DeKalb County leaders who made this school system one of the best in the nation must be spinning in their graves. As one who sent children to the fine DC public schools, today my children would be going to private schools if I had to work two jobs to do it.
Eddie E.
4:37 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Precisely what is it that 'qualifies' (I realize the OnePartyState Legislature has authorized him) the Governor (not just this dimbulb, but any we have elected in the last 10 years) to select a School Board?
What reason is there for not identifying the demonstrable members of the board who are not doing their job and eliminating them?
Obviously this might leave some board members selected by the VOTERS and not belonging to the OneParty, but hey, that's the way it works.
Bad things have happened in Dekalb County Schools, but the situation has been developing for over 15 years. It didn't just start.
The rush to embrace the last 'doomsday' step first without besmirching those who are attempting to attend to their job is madness.
And as for 'sacs', I'm not blaming the messenger, I'm just attempting to demonstrate we are not at the mercy of a well versed educational research institution, we ARE allowing a for-profit tentacle of the Chamber of Commerce to dictate educational policy directives. Think for a moment, is it that the school districts in central and south Georgia (where the test scores are the most dismal) are doing such a wonderful job that all efforts can be dedicated to the districts in Metro Atlanta which refuse to succumb to the OneParty?
Dean
6:02 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
More shenanigans from this woeful group of miscreants.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/boe-accused-secretly-trying-hire-interim-super/nWGh8/
HamBurger
6:27 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Mr. Dean, this is what I am talking about. Folks that are clued know all about this. The liberal media is the last to know . . . Or, report.
My suggestion to Mr. Dean: Get Clued.
Please pass the yellow mustard!
Eddie E.
6:41 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Dean,
I realize you see that having 'shady' appoint a board is somehow the only solution.
Enlighten us as to what you think that would provide.
Betsy Parks
7:34 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Below is a short twitter conversation I had with John Barge. I was really confused as to why GA had to accredit the 99K students instead of each school as they do in VA, our hometown. I had assumed this was the only option in GA but its not! I went to the SACS site I found that they accredited individual schools and entire school systemsl. In fact, Saint Pius X Catholic High School is accredited by SACS. I think the Archdiocese is like the BOE. As I understand it, DK as a district has chosen with SACS the school system option instead of the school option. After briefly reviewing the options it seems that SACS has a school option that focuses more on the school and less on the educrats in DeKalb. Perhaps. DCSS is just too big and diverse for a one size fits all, central management system. I am worried that the system accreditation might have been chosen to "protect" or hide poor preforming schools but I think its better to know Johnny can't read than keep our heads in the sand a moment longer. Just sharing my discovery and thoughts as I understand them with little information.
Betsy Parks @RestoreDCSS
@DrJohnBarge @GrowBrookhaven I'm from Va- I am having a hard time understanding why you would accredit an entire system of 99K not ea school
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@restoredcss It's up to the district to choose that. They work with SACS on those decisions.
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CrowBurger
12:03 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Just let all the schools in Brookhaven LEAVE the DKSC and turn them all into Charter of Magnet schools.... problem solved.
Betsy Parks
9:04 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
I just confirmed that DKBOE seven years ago chose to ignore individual school performance and chose to accredit the system instead. It is a lot cheeper to accredit the entire system and a single school is not "singled out" for needs improvement. We got rid of Crawford Lewis and have kicked this can far enough down the road. We should demand that we change from a school system to an individual school accreditation system as soon as possible. The schools that are succeeding should receive a pat on the back and the failing schools should get the help they need, improve or close their doors. From what I understand, SACS has a plan to help individual schools if our district had chosen than plan. We got what we asked for now lets get over it and choose to examine EACH school. It will be uncomfortable to look at and tiring, embarrassing, expensive to work on our most dysfunctional schools. Frankly its time we did. I am tired of hearing how bad SACS, Gov Deal, GABOE is doing its job. I am tired of wasting time and money on legal fees, BOE mistakes and would rather that time, energy money go to SACS to accredit on a school by school basis any day! This school system approach we chose with SACS in DeKalb is STUCK on STUPID! http://www.advanc-ed.org/what-accreditation
Bruce Mitchell
5:48 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
WTF! Get it together Dekalb. It's getting to be past the ridiculous.
CrowBurger
7:54 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
SACS is so out of touch with reality that it hasn't the credibility to accredit anyone or anything. Is it still 1892? Where's my Delorian with the flux capacitor?
Mark Harnbuckle
8:56 am on Friday, February 8, 2013
I always find great interest when bloggers who normally do not agree are able to find common interest.
SACS is very much part of the problem because a good and proper accreditation process should avoid so many of the HUGE systemic ills that plague DeKalb and Fulton school systems; ie criminal charges and wholesale cheating, respectively.
Jobs=Growth
Jobs are dependent on a variety of factors, not the least of which is the perception that an area has a well managed educational system.
As Messrs. Keefe and Gocke so state, the individuals schools are providing quality education, in spite of central office criminal mismanagement.
Smart citizens will continue to leave DeKalb and the newest city entrant, Lakeside, continues to prove that the status quo is unacceptable to the poor ol' taxpayin' public.