http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

Like father like son!

The whole argument regarding our area not having acceptable representation points directly back to the person who was elected by us, to represent us, and the resulting appointees. Plain and simply put - Elaine Boyer, Rebecca Chase Williams and Collette McDonald. They are to blame and since they have been called out they are striking back like little black widow spiders.

Mr. Jonathan, conversely, the fact that this new city idea has morphed from a group of folks just south of I-285 rejected for inclusion in Dunwoody bothers me greatly. Furthermore, the development of this new city idea progressed among this select group of folks and then was foisted upon a lot of unsuspecting folks required to make up the tax base for their new city. Instead of attempting to make changes to our existing government, this group of folks wants to create a new city and bases the success of their new city on a flawed Vinson study. There has been a fast and furious push by Rep. Jacobs, Rep. Taylor, Sen. Millar, C$ND, and Brookhaven Yes to force this city on folks that do not feel comfortable with it. No time to get everyone warm and fuzzy and on board, just ram this city idea through as quickly as you can.

We must pass the city to see what it and the yet to be chosen selected to run it will bring us! NOT!

Please pass the thin sliced onions and pickles!

Childers, you realize Boyer is one of seven?

It is an absolutely false assertion that Dunwoody rejected the neighborhoods inside 285. There is a deep divide inside these neighborhoods as to the notion of being annexed by Dunwoody, thus the reason the concept of Dunwoody came about.

Granted I'm not certain what the relevance of who rejected who is, but its odd that this misstatement is repeated numerous times including in Step 5 of the nocity website.

As to an individual who is a resident of Cobb County who is a paid lobbyist for DeKalb saying he is doing this as a private citizen? Really? Come on.

We will all be able to vote on July 31 and nobody will be excluded from being allowed to vote - assuming they are registered to vote, able to vote, and show up with identification... This is the American way - that we all come together as a community and vote, to determine the future of our community.

Fortunately the legislature and Governor did not allow the Dekalb lobbyist, politicians and "NO" groups to deny our Right To Vote to determine the future of our community. Dekalb did not allow us to vote on last year's 26% tax increase, but the new city will require that such tax increases be voted on by the taxpayers, and institutes a 3.35 tax cap.

What a great way to institute taxation WITH representation, and local control over our government. Learn the FACTS at http://www.brookhavenyes.org/faq.php and vote YES on July 31.

'Elaine has stayed out of it'?
After she authorized the new billboard?
After she pushed the vote to encroach on the Peachtree Creek stream buffer?
While her COS has been a fixture at every meeting since mikey's first shidig at the church?
What part of being a County Commissioner suggests the task at hand is to balkanize the County into unsustainable little fiefdoms?
I just wish Commissioner's Gannon and Rader had been MUCH MORE outspoken rather than defer to the self-delusion of a particular State Representative of half of the Opposed City area.

Mr. Hamburger,
I just wish they could have been more polite about accepting the facts.
They just aren't Dunwoody Material. Dunwoody didn't want them and still doesn't.
Why foist the anger of being jilted onto the rest of us who just want to be left alone?

Mr. Eric,
The County has a Lobbyist representing the interests (in a holistic fashion to support the WHOLE county) of the County.
Just like the City of Dunwoody has a Lobbyist (page 37 of the Dunwoody Budget) who is paid between 60,000.00 and 70,000.00. In addition, this same Lobbyist receives a tidy sum for bond negotiations.
It is starting to become clear why certain individuals are so attached to this Opposed City idea. The job prospects are huge!

Dean,
Elaine Boyer may be one of 7 but she is the only one who is OUR commissioner and is directly responsible for the lack of doing her dang job. So there.

Jeff Kellar,
And which position do you have your eye on in the new city?
There is no recently formed City where the leaders of the effort did not eventually become a city official. Will you follow suit? Sure you will.
Vote NO Jeff Kellar, NO J Max Davis and NO City July 31.

Eddie E. Doesn't the Crier Article about the fight for the lucrative portion of DeKalb's CID inside 285 support my contention? http://www.thecrier.net/news/article_9694d728-30ad-11e1-b978-001871e3ce6c.html .

Or the phone poll by Mike Jacobs that many of the No city people have refered to that revealed an even split amongst Chamblee or Dunwoody or unincorporated, but the highest positive vote for a new city called Brookhaven?

Again, the notion of who is jilted probably doesn't matter. Except that for DeKalb's sake I hope people realize just how the numbers work, The northern end is a very lucrative tax base, I think its a real risk that if Cityhood doesn't happen Dunwoody will annex the rest of the CID and whatever residential area is necessary to make it look legit. And this could have a greater negative impact on DeKalb's finances.

In 2004, Commissioner Elaine Boyer filed a police report alleging Jones pushed her into a wall after a contentious meeting. The police report came soon after a Dekalb constituent claimed Jones had harassed and intimidated her.[30]

Dekalb works!

Mr. Eric, from a previous post of yours:

“But that would be a huge hit to DeKalb, as the Crier article pointed out surprisingly the assessed value of the CID inside 285 in DeKalb is 200 million which is almost equal to the assessed value of the CID outside 285 (Dunwoody) which is 222 million.”

The 2011 DeKalb Tax Digest shows the Perimeter CID valued at $842,732,095. Looking at an aerial map overlaid with the CID area I think the Crier numbers are incorrect for the Lake Hearn/Perimeter Summit CID. Or, did they undervalue the area north of I-285? I have not had the time to do a tax roll analysis of LH/PS to verify this. Do you have further insight? Do you know the source of their numbers?

Man! Those are the dillyest dills I have ever had!

Hamburger, could you please point us to where we can find the statistics you state about the Perimeter CID? Are you absolutely positive your $842,732,095 figure is for the DeKalb portion as opposed to the entire CID which partially resides in Fulton?

@Eric..As expressed by multiple Dunwoodians; cities have borders and theirs is 285 unless they sense urgent and necessary need to unify the DeKalb PCID. With promises to their citizens still to be fulfilled adding residents and infrastructure is a not a smart move for a smart city.
@Dean..http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/PropertyAppraisal/TaxDigest.html#

Yes but the CID is pushing to be in Dunwoody if Brookhaven doesn't happen.

Eric (at 12:58),
If the Dunwoody Jilted want to annex out, fine, go ahead, just leave me alone.
I don't live or die worrying about the effect on my property taxes. My property taxes were already distorted by the rampant infill from 2001-2007, a process that was forced by the same clowns who feel we now need a small government that will not interfere with whatever ill-conceived development they want to wreak upon us.
Once the 'Dun-Jilted' are dealt with, maybe we can continue in peace!

Eric (at 12:58)
As for any 'crier' article, I don't know, I don't read it.
Dunwoody has been a non-existent spot on my map for about 3 years.

Mr. Dean, respectfully, please note that we are talking about DeKalb County, not Fulton County. The numbers are from the 2011 DeKalb Tax Digest.

By the way . . . KM wants to know if you are taking a comp day today . . . If not, you might want to have a big sale by the end of the month . . .

Man . . . That charcoal smells so schweet! Please pass the yellow mustard!

@Hamburger do you happen to have a link for the tax digest. The crier said they got the numbers i used (200 million and 220 million) from Hicks' Tax Digest report. I can't find it though.

DeKalb Tax Digest

http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/PropertyAppraisal/TaxDigest.html#

Thanks burger, I'd be interested in what Hicks has to say about it.

Thanks Hamburger. I sent an email to the writer asking if she knows why the numbers don't match up. At first I thought it might be an issue of taking the 40% portion, but that doesn't work either. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

But that is a number I would interested in figuring out.

"Childers, you realize Boyer is one of seven?" --- Dean Matthews:

Dean, you do realize that (though enough) "Elaine Boyer, Rebecca Chase Williams and Collette McDonald" is not "one of seven"?

Don, only Ms. Boyer from those mentioned is on the DeKalb BoC, which is dominated by six other politicians from other parts of the county.

Dean,
But, Ms. Chase-Williams and Ms. McDonald are the APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVES and are ( I think) sworn and trained to the appointed positions they hold by Ms. Boyer.

Being a minority member (not racial one) on the Dekalb BOC; is similar to being a minority member of the US House or Senate; as in you cannot will not and will never get anything passed on your side. So unless your an elected official, as in BOC, you can be Mickey Mouse, Lindsay Lohan, or Ice T, or an any one of many aides or appointees of a Commissioner, but guess what you don't true vote/voice!

Welcome to majority rules!

"We will all be able to vote on July 31 and nobody will be excluded from being allowed to vote - assuming they are registered to vote...This is the American way."

So it was. Wake up Jeff:

Though the US Constitution does not empower any foreign power,including the MxGov, to involve itself in US elections, officials and employees from the Mexican Government Consulate's "Instituto de Mexico, in our very own neighborhood, in our State of Georgia, USA having---no matter how invalidating of any vote---and, courtesy of our politicians in office, despite their very oaths of office, being allowed to have our very own voter registration forms:

http://bit.ly/nkqBuS
http://bit.ly/odEZbI
http://bit.ly/nWDzCU

Yet another FACT that gets in the way of the yes crowd's whining.

It would certainly make sense if his efforts were being paid for by the people concerned about the pour time or earlier closings - I am sympathetic to that concern and think DeKalb's policy of grandfathering was a correct one. There may also be some other business interests. I think with Chamblee's annexation there was a car dealer funding the opposition - though I forget what the reason was.

But Dekalb County surely is spending lots on signs promoting Dekalb works care of your tax and spend CEO: Ellis!

And since the majority of the commission opposes Broohaven Independence, Bowers is towing the line, so to speak!

In a May 30 email Jabari Simama, the chief of staff to DeKalb CEO Burrell Ellis, asks Bowers, “Please provide Burrell’s talking points by 5pm tomorrow (Monday.) Also provide talking points for O’Brien and Rader.”

At a March 12 Senate committee hearing, Bowers was given 30 minutes to present the county’s case. He claimed that the push for incorporation was not representative of the area, the police department would be understaffed and that property tax savings would be minimal.

"Although we were unable to defeat the bill,” wrote Bowers, “I believe we were able to lay the groundwork for a vigorous campaign by those who believe that citizens of the proposed city have not been fully informed of its merits and demerits.”

Mr. Mark, how do you feel about Rep. Jacobs sending out a mailer at the expense of his constituents promoting his new city?

We must pass the city to see what it and the yet to be chosen selected to run it will bring us!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

Like after like son!

Instead, I cut ties with the two vendors I purchase from in Wisconsin this morning.

Elections do have consequences.

Good for you! Freedom of choice. Even MSNBC said he won in a big way 9 percentage points! Did you know your beolved Delta, and most of GA is anti union too! right to work state! Yep and Brookhaven owners and foundations and schools beware public opinions do have consequences! Cheers!

I am talking about not raising taxes, as in Dekalb County goverment and their serious waste and 26% tax increases year after year. Not making tough decsions and cutting staff and bloating employees, unions and pensions. BTW I travel to Europe and the W. Coast (unfortunately on a 3 star airline) but and would be happy to leave when my property values rise after the New City is passed!

So I think WI has alot to do with do nothing Deklab! Thanks for you ignorance!

not, when you went to Europe, did you find "m"?

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Hamburger: Yes I did, thank you very much; Y Marabella es Muy Beuno; et Cannes cest bon, aussi!

Hamburger: "Mr. J. Max, instead of creating a new city so you can hold elected office, why didn’t you just run against Rep. Jacobs?"

Because the regiment's campaign fund chest required no further outlays for strawmen or, if I recall correctly, in the case of that election, straw women.

Of course it is important in the process to have those with an interest of providing FACTUAL INFORMATION to the County Citizens rather than participating in the distortion and scare tactics as have landed the Citizens of Peachtree Corners in the mess they find themselves.

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

More money more money, all from Brookhaven!

God Save the Queen! Keep sending the money in with your taxes & where it goes: nobody knows! & hamburger and his NO friedns certainly do not care!

Just like the owner did at his previous job, until concepts like factual information got in the way.

And look at the Crier site. NO ONE hardly ever comments there. Or do they? The world may never know. The comments are moderated and filtered out by that Williams lady and man. Sound off for free unbiased press. Sound off for equality and fairness in reporting. Sound off for ethical journalism. You will not find any of this at the Crier. And BTW, their logo sux.

Mr. Eric, from what I see, the figures in this article are not right. From Ms. Williams:

“As noted in the article many of the projections come from UGA's Carl Vinson Institute feasibility study, which can be found online at the CVI website. The Dunwoody budget numbers come from their budget, which is posted online on the city of Dunwoody website, under Finance and City Budget. The tax digest figures come from DeKalb County Tax Assessor Calvin Hicks in the report of the tax digest just released. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear what the sources were. I hope this helps. “

That Crier . . . What a journalistic wonder . . . Makes you also wonder about the highly touted Vinson study. And these are the folks that demand that we follow them like lemmings over a cliff into their not so well planned city for them to run us into further expense and taxation.

Mr. HamBurger . . . Putting down his special hamburger in despair . . .

Yes as stated above after you helpfully provided me with the link to Hicks' tax digest summary, the numbers The Crier got from the Hicks' report don't line up with the numbers I'm seeing, so I've asked about it.

As to the CVI figures that's a different ball of wax and I understand that the No City folks feel the Peachtree Corners proposed budget casts doubt on the Carl Vinson methodology while the Yes City folks point to all the other cities formed for which the Carl Vinson numbers serve well.

Though I think Peachtree City took on some mission creep beyond the stated scope of duties or type of service delivery they would do .

But yes I agree the numbers are tight for Brookhaven.

Though its interesting I do agree with Eddie E. in that if my taxes go up slightly that's not my main concern. Granted from there Eddie E. and I diverge in opinion.

I feel its worth it if I am convinced that the City can do things like the LCI implementation better. And I am not a fan of DeKalb's track record in regards to the LCI implementation or other zoning implementation. We've had lots of good directors of planning, but not good implementation.

While dismayed by the 26% tax hike in DeKalb, I'm still not pushing for annexation by Dunwoody which would slash my taxes. So taxes fit in the equation.

Eric,
Which Commissioner has been the one to (personally or by proxy) allow for variances to the LCI?
Hint, it wasn't one of those tepid to the Opposed City.
Facts are facts. The long record of behavior patterns of elected (and failed to be elected) officials promoting balkanization do not speak positively for the future of our neighborhoods.

@Eddie, Kathie Gannon is great, I'm publicly supporting her even though we don't agree on the city. I don't live in Jeff Raders' district so haven't followed every action he has taken but I think he's good.

And I admittedly I can see how the majority of their constituents those living outside the proposed city) fear that a City of Brookhaven is not fair to them. Though the fact that we are questioning if Brookhaven will have to raise taxes or not indicates we aren't being unfair like another city to the North.

I have always felt that DeKalb should follow the Fulton model and divide everything into various cities that can provide the services that localization benefits, like zoning and development, parks, police and roads and drainage, not so much for the drainage but for the roads since that's often intertwined with development, though I can see a much more enlightened approach to storm water management being adopted by a smaller city vs. a large county.

Mr. Eric, the Perimeter CID appraised values for 2012 are as follows:

Perimeter CID (Dunwoody) $1,746,469,537
Lake Hearn/Perimeter Summit (Unincorporated) $199,366,700

Please pass this information along to Ms. Rebecca Chase Williams. Hopefully, she can write a story correction. For someone in her position this is a big time glaring mistake. And, for kicks, ask her to start researching her revered Vinson study. I see a few cracks in it . . . Whoops, there goes another . . . Crack . . .

Mr. Dean, Fulton County has yet to annex DeKalb County . . . Heard from KM yet?

My, what a glorious evening for a charcoal grilled special hamburger!

Eric,
Only it isn't Kathy Gannon I am speaking of.
She has NOT been the opponent of the LCI or the one allowing other blatant violations of County Ordinance or State Law.
But we do agree, Commissioner Gannon is Great for North Dekalb.

@ Hamburger, yea I just saw those numbers also. So where did you find them?
Yes its a huge swing but not a swing related to the Vinson study or the viability of the city. People make mistakes. At least someone is trying to analyze the numbers, I don't know of any other media outlets doing that. I've found their whole series to be helpful.

Admittedly the swing does make a big difference in my calculation of the value of the north side or perhaps in my valuation of the theft done by that city to the north. 1.7 Billion with a B!!!!! wow.

And while we still don't compare on our side of 285 we do have the Summit bank building and Holiday Inn on the corner of Chamblee Dunwoody and 285 that's not in the CID and Perimeter Summit still has some more high rise pads for future high rises.

Here's another interesting tidbit, the Lenox Park CID has the same value as the Perimeter Summit, pretty impressive for you guys.

@Eddie yes I know who you were talking about. I was just trying to say I don't hold those two responsible. Though form of government is what has always bothered me, doesn't allow them to overcome the problems. I guess its gotten better, though I still haven't figured out why those 2 were against the proposed form of gov study.

Mr. Eric, I told one of my grunts to find the information for me. A dollar goes a long way now in the employment arena.

The point is accuracy. If I were Mr. Dick I would not let Ms. Rebecca be in charge of balancing the check books . . . Any of them! Plus, it is disturbing that if you are clueless about information that you have that you do not ask questions and yet continue to publish a BS story.

If you make this kind of mistake, what kind of mistakes have you made previously? This is the third time I have questioned this story. No one has provided me with an answer. I was even chastised for asking the question. All you BigTime pro city folks just bought into it from its promoters like it was golden.

Yet my burger flipper found this information in thirty minutes after I asked him to find it.

Now, start looking at the beloved Vinson study. Look at it very closely. Look beyond the cracks . . .

Special to Mr. Dean, DeKalb County has still not been annexed by Fulton County . . .

Have a special hamburger you guys, you are going to need it! Please pass the yellow mustard!

@Hamburger,
Remember, things Rebecca Chase Williams has to think on are "above my pay grade". Maybe she will ask Mike to extrapolate on her pontificating again.

"If you make this kind of mistake, what kind of mistakes have you made previously? This is the third time I have questioned this story. No one has provided me with an answer. I was even chastised for asking the question. All you BigTime pro city folks just bought into it from its promoters like it was golden."
Hamburger besides hiding behind your anonymous name this type of garbage gets quite annoying. You asked and I immediately started looking for the answer for you. One other person merely asked if you were including Fulton.
How much Dunwoody's portion of the Perimeter CID does not effect the calculation of if Brookhaven works. But yea I owned up to drawing a conclusion about where the tax base is that was as big as Dunwoody's CID and that was in correct, though the valuation of the CID area in Brookhaven was not.

And if there is an error in the Vinson Study then why haven't the well funded no City folks found it?

I think you are blowing smoke. So where did your grunt find the information? i'm always looking for information. Unfortunately there isn't much of that in this blog. Just a bunch of anonymous posters who "supposedly" are on both sides of the issue bickering about silly stuff like people's feelings being hurt. Look I'm not happy Mike didn't ask me first either. and for the others, yes there is huge waste and bloat, But lets get past that and focus on the issues of if the city would do the services better and what the numbers are..

Mr. Eric, You can down play the error in The Crier if you like, but saying that the unincorporated and incorporated CID’s are close to the same when clearly they are not is a substantial mistake. To your credit, after I pointed out this error a third time, you questioned the figures yourself. Everyone else bought it, hook, line, and sinker. Remember, I am the one that posted the correct figures for you.

Then we have Mr. Dean who continues to try to drag Fulton County into the conversation when we are talking about the DeKalb County tax digest. Really informed fellow there . . .

I felt the S3 (LH/PS CID) figures close but the S2 (P CID) nowhere near reality. The corrected figures show just how great the S2 Perimeter CID tax district adds to the commercial and industrial tax base for Dunwoody. The new city of Brookhaven will not have near the commercial tax base and this is a problem. Any Vinson study miscalculations and residential property owners will feel the pinch.

“I think you are blowing smoke.” “I can only imagine what is coming in the next 50 days.”

All in due time . . .

You want one of my special hamburgers? Or, do you prefer pink slime down on MD?

What a terrible mistake we have made in Dekalb County and not gone along with the 'one party state'.
It makes people who oppose the will of the Citizens be in the minority.

Oh Eddie, keep supporting your South Deklab leaders, who don't represnt my interest AT ALL.

Yes Eddie; Deklab is one party: democrat; But southern and far from the national democratic party; one more concerned about church pews and religion than natural reosurces and blue dog fiscal responsibility.

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

I have no attachment to (what passes for) fiscal conservatives today or social conservatives (working hard to turn back time).
One would be hard pressed to ferret out an example where there extremely misguided policies have improved the lives of the voters who accidentally put them in place.
For more information, see 'State of GA, 2003-2012'.

Social conservatives of both parties are losers!

Oh and so scientific! Just like Blitzer!

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, I'm Wolf Blitzer in for Piers Morgan. He's in London with the latest on today's Diamond Jubilee celebration. But we begin with breaking news out of Wisconsin right now where polls have just closed. The recall vote that could preview November's election.

Look at this. Our exit polls show it's a 50-50 race as of this minute. These are exit polls, the polls that we conducted throughout the day, throughout the state of Wisconsin. These are preliminary exit poll results. Fifty percent for Scott Walker. He's on the left of your screen. Fifty percent for Tom Barrett, the Democrat, the mayor of Milwaukee. He is on the right.

REAL CLOSE 9 points! Silent majority WINS AGAIN!
Scott Walker is the incumbent Republican governor. This is a race to recall him, to remove him from office. Based on the exit polls that we've been conducting throughout the day. Right now the exit polls show it's 50 percent for Walker, 50 percent for Barrett. Doesn't get much closer than this.

Why are you so agaitated then? Gosh; liars are always guilty!

@Not one. I am sorry you are feeling guilty.

http://www.mercurynews.com/elections/ci_20794968/san-jose-employee-unions-file-lawsuit-challenging-pension

Dekalb, would never get to the ballot, sad! Also why does Fulton County School Board have a surplus, they did not spend their reserve on corruption

Note to readers: Brookhaven no websites are biased against the city mvmt and funded by Big pockets!

Carl,
He/She/It is obviously 'feeling' something....
Because 'thinking' would prevent one from speaking in such a rash and disjoint fashion.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/fulton-school-board-passes-1452984.html

Real leadership: Eddie and Carl, I know it's hard to digest no tax increases cuts and living within your meager means!

> 1/60th,
Yo genius, why do you keep deflecting (though less frequently) with school expense nonsense from anywhere?
School funding does not enter into this calculation at any level.

Eddie same SOUTH DEkabl citizens elect same crazy leaders! Thanks for the advice I know how the BOC BOE work elderly man! Soon your time will be up Now go get some rest!

> 1/60th,
What on earth does that mean in English?

It means Brookhaven people have no cares concerns or business in South Dekalb and vice versa. It's not like a divorce of one big happy family. Segregated neighborhoods, churches, and clubs. It's about local people and money. Brookhaven does not even claim Buford hwy how can it claim anything s of I85. Balkanization of what...I think that has occurred by itself, Einstein

You miss another point.
I am much more interested in everything that occurs in Decatur, Central Dekalb and South Dekalb than in any outlying OTP burgs of Dekalb.
Sorry you can't grasp that.

Why r the HISTORIC BROOKHAVEN RESIDENTS so it's not my hood! Anyway good for you! Waste as much fossil fuel as you can! And I hope you end up on Memorila Drive near 285! Early and Often!

I am sure you live there and that is why you want to keep stealing our money!

Dude or Dudess,

There is a medication that would help (one would hope).

Best patch post ever! Not to mention ordinary folks are multi millionaires with their private "non profit tax deductible" foundations!

Mark,
Does it shock you that it includes more than a dozen people who have lived here for over 3 decades?
How long has the State Representative that initiated this nonsense lived here?

And lots and lots of money and paid posters! More foundation money please, IRS anyone.

Being in the position of having my legislative representative pushing HB636, I, for one, was happy to get the information provided by Bruce Bowers at the SLOGO (best acronym ever, BTW) hearing, and do not think it was an inappropriate use of my tax dollars. The information was presented openly in a public hearing, instead of during a private meeting at a nice restaurant. I am not aware that lobbyists have conflicts of interest.

This is a long way of saying, we have better things to discuss than who is paying the most to campaign for each side. In most cynical moments, I think that for the price of a $30,000 study, a small group of people can sit down with a map and draw up a new city. No - we do not want to go there. We all have our motivations for supporting, rejecting, or "still thinking" about the city issue. Some people have chosen to spend money, some have given time, and some of us (like me) are just expressing opinions after a private study. It's the American way.

Mr. Mark, how do you feel about Rep. Jacobs sending out a mailer at the expense of his constituents promoting his new city?

We must pass the city to see what it and the yet to be chosen selected to run it will bring us!

Please pass the yellow mustard!

Deborah,
My thoughts exactly. Apparently it's ok for a State Representative to send out a Brookhaven Special Edition Mailer which hit mailboxes today. We as taxpayers paid for this mailer. As a State Representative, it's somehow OK for Mike to fund a mailer with our tax dollars. Double standard anyone?

Eddie, it doesn't shock me in the least. Both sides have many long time citizens as supporters.
Nice effort in trying to deflect the issue though. Sorta tough to sell the "grass roots, ordinary citizens" shtick when you've got old Atlanta money paying for political consultants and high powered lobbyists who also happen to work for the County. Oh wait, thats right, he is just a private citizen who lives in East Cobb that happens to be interested in this issue. Too funny.

Mark,
So in short, you got nothin' right?

East COBB PEOPLE REALLY CARE about Justice in SOUTH DEKALB

Funny how his dad sued the county for reverse race discrimination that still occurs and won millions, hitch the tax payers had to foot the bill for too! They know how to rake the money in! Good for them!

@ Deborah, the issue isn't so much that the county lobbyist was presenting the County's position at the legislative hearings,that was in the scope of his duties.
The issue is carrying that to the post legislative approval process he is not supposed to be paid for the No-city efforts now that the legislation has passed and the matter is going to a vote. That is why the county's spokesperson Burke Brennan took the time to post here that the lobbyist was not working for the county but for other clients. I'm not sure who, perhaps it was the clubs or perhaps it was some other interest. And fair enough, he is a private citizen and does not have an exclusive contract with the county according to Burke Brennen. But I don't believe as an East Cobb resident he was doing this on his own time. I think it adds to the whole who are all these people, who is funding them, because they are spending a lot of money, mail outs, bill boards and I can only imagine what is coming in the next 50 days.

yes I think Mike shouldn't have done the flyer even if it was more factually accurate than the "no city's" mailout. But Mike does have a budget and is allowed to use it to do a mailout on any topic he wishes. But we know who Mike is and obviously we know he's supporting the legislation because he sponsored it, just like Fran Millar and Sen Dan Weber were big promoters of Dunwoody, they can use their budgets that way. Yea i would love to slash the legislators budgets.

Like j.max (I can't seem to get elected to anything)davis's community?

I don't know or care! I have large killer dogs!

It's basically http://repjacobs.com/2012/04/09/faqs-on-the-city-of-brookhaven. Same ole same ole. It's interesting to ponder why HE sent out the mailer rather than the BrookhavenYes Non Profit Lobbying Organization he helped start. Along with Rebecca Chase Williams nonetheless. Irony. It can be your friend or not. Sigh.

Deborah, I'll happily reply to you but I choose to ignore the anonymous posters. From your prevous post it sounds like you are OK with a lobbyist illegally working for the opposition, as long as it is something you are in agreement with. What happens next time when its a cause that you are not if favor of? Would that be OK?

I'd also be curious to know how the flyer was paid for "with one's tax dollars".

Mr. Mark, you can ignore me . . . But can you ignore the fact that the mailing today from Rep. Jacobs to his constituents was sent from Rep. Mike Jacobs, 401 Coverdale LOB, Atlanta, Georgia, 30334 address? Sounds like a mailing from a very desperate Rep. Mike Jacobs . . .

Please pass those thin sliced sweet onions!

Deborah,
The mailer is worse than just promoting the city.
YOUR representative has decided that MARTA doesn't really need all of the money it collects to do it's job.
I guess he has figured out a way to divert said money to make the funky Vincent calculations balance.

Sick to my stomach. Who gets mail anymore, how old are you all?!

So many non profits doing so many "things". Like So many mega churches and other orga which waste misuse and abuse the trust they have all in the "cause". Vomit.

Rep. Jacobs mailer is filled with facts and figures, this will help set the record straight after so much disinformation has been let loose on the subject.

Couple three things.
First: Mark. Please don't ever respond to me or anything I say. It would degrade my superior intellect. Remember, I'm a scientist. Notice my superior cranium in my profile photo.
Second: Mikes mailer is nothing more than the same exact BS he has been saying all along during his ride on the political disaster railway. Nothing new. Exactly like the BrookhavenYes Non Profit Lobbying Organizations very poorly designed website. Nothing new. Nothing compelling and all of it has been torn to shreds. PS the BrookhavenYes site you designed is full of typos. Go ahead and get busy fixing that Mark. It's appalling.
Third: Dean, I am sorry your "subject" is loose.

What about Ellis Dekalb works signs just in time or reelection at 80 grand! Deborah typical if I support it: it's good! Vomit!

Too bad yes does not have a multi million dollar non profit foundation to LEAN ON!

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

"From your prevous post it sounds like you are OK with a lobbyist illegally working for the opposition..." ---Mark Graffagnino

While you sound like you are OK with a State Representative working as a lobbyist.

J Max,
You know you were cutting grass in Hampton Hall until you got your law mower stolen.

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/judge-awards-1-9-687976.html

Another day another scandal

As if making signs with tax dollars was not enough